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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 12:20 PM
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A Posiible Da Vinci code in real life? (Papal politics)NYT

A very interesting read and intrigue.

Tinfoil hatters?...Do you think the illuminate is alive and well?

<http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/18/international/europe/18roger.html>

Brother Roger, 90, Dies; Ecumenical Leader

By MARLISE SIMONS
Published: August 18, 2005
Brother Roger, the Swiss Protestant theologian who in 1940 founded a community of monks in Taizé, in eastern France, that became a worldwide ecumenical movement, died there on Tuesday. He was 90.

Brother Roger was stabbed in the throat during an evening service in his church by a woman who was attending the ceremony. He died almost immediately.

With his group of monks - including Lutheran, Anglican, Evangelical, Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox members - he sought to create greater unity among Christian churches, but his focus above all was to awaken spirituality among the young people in Europe who were growing up in a secular world.

Before the fall of Communism, he and his group had quietly created prayer circles among Catholics in Poland and Hungary and Protestants in East Germany that proved influential during protests in those countries. The Taizé prayer groups with their message of peace and conciliation eventually also reached into the United States - he has followers in New York - as well as Canada, Brazil, South Korea and elsewhere.

He became well known as both a mystic and a realist, a man with a humble personal style who was able to attract tens of thousands of followers. He also became a driving force behind the annual World Youth Day, being held this week in Cologne, Germany.

<snip>

The French police said yesterday that they had taken into custody a 36-year-old woman from Romania who admitted to stabbing the monk with a knife she bought a day earlier. The woman, whose name was withheld, is to undergo psychiatric examination, the police said.

<snip>

Pope Benedict XVI, who knew Brother Roger personally, said at his summer residence in Castel Gandolfo yesterday that the "sad and terrifying" news "strikes me even more because just yesterday I received a very moving and very friendly letter from him."

The archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams, the head of the Church of England, said, "Brother Roger was one of the best-loved Christian leaders of our time."

<snip>............con't


This leader sounds like he was profound thinker of his time,
way beyond that of all the Popes of all time.
Do you think he was getting in the way of Pope Benedict?
Did you see who took his place in leadership?

......Brother Alois, a German Roman Catholic
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 12:33 PM
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1. Whoah!!! this is very interesting!!!
I find it fascinating that Benedict just got a letter yesterday from him. I'm sure the investigators of the murder will have to interrogate the Pope. What an interesting chain of events!!!

Great article!!! Ya Davinci Code comes to mind!!! :bounce:
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 12:36 PM
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2. Murder is proof of power grabbing.
Mystics????

Is the Pope into Mystism.
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 12:43 PM
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3. LOL
the assassinated priest was not even eligible as a pope for his age and health. he was just a well respected monk.

the guy replacing him was already designed by the the whole congregation and was already practically in charge since the elderly priest was of poor helath.

you guys have sure a vivid imagination
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 12:47 PM
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4. It sounds like you knew him well.
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 01:06 PM
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8. no but I watch French TV
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 01:14 PM
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10. What are the French saying?
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 01:24 PM
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12. sad, tragic, a big loss...
what else can they say
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 12:49 PM
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5. Well he was murdered and its quite a mystery???
I always like Murder Mysterys and I am sure that the woman was insane because the guy was 90 so he was dying soon evidentally not soon enough for her!!!
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 03:16 PM
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14. Kick
:kick:
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 12:50 PM
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6. Gosh, Why Would Any 36 Year Old Woman
want to kill a 90 YO monk?

/sarcasm
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 12:57 PM
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7. Its Yahoo news now heres the article more descriptive of the
crime!!!

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050817/ap_on_re_eu/france_prayer_slaying_4

PARIS - A Romanian woman slipped into a choir of singing monks during an evening prayer service and fatally slit the throat of the 90-year-old founder of an ecumenical Christian community in the presence of 2,500 horrified pilgrims in Burgundy, authorities said Wednesday.

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The slaying Tuesday of Brother Roger in the Church of Reconciliation drew reactions of shock and grief from the pope, the leader of the Anglican Church and worshippers around the world.

"It happened very fast. There were some screams. We turned around. He was wounded," said Brother Emile, who witnessed the killing. "We carried him out of the church so people didn't see the terrible part. ... She slit his throat."

Brother Roger was stabbed at least twice in the neck. Bleeding profusely, he died 15 minutes later in the community house, Brother Emile said.

Tributes to the silver-haired cleric who symbolized dialogue across the Christian world poured in Wednesday to the tranquil Taize Community, snuggled in a Burgundy village north of Lyon.

more...
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tocqueville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 01:12 PM
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9. Obviously the agressor is a nut
The 36-year-old intruder, who was not identified by name, had visited Taize for a week in June and was considered psychologically fragile. Brother Emile said they had learned from colleagues that she was "a very sick woman in Romania" who screamed in churches.

"We asked her not to stay," Brother Emile said in a telephone interview. She returned about two days ago, bypassing the reception area.

On Tuesday night, she jumped a small, symbolic hedge separating the choir from the congregation to join the monks. Brother Emile said brothers thought she might be the mother of one of the children. The attacker offered no resistance when she was grabbed.
..................

"It would appear for now there is little doubt that this was premeditated since she bought a knife the day before and voluntary homicide is manifest," Coste told reporters. He said she had tried for several months to contact Brother Roger and told investigators she was trying to get his attention.

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QuettaKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 01:18 PM
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11. maybe she was unstable because
of what MIGHT have happened say, oh I dunno, in 1975.....?
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 01:56 PM
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13. kick
:kick:
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 03:40 PM
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16. "Love Will Keep Us Together" No. 1 hit of the year?
Edited on Thu Aug-18-05 03:42 PM by Scurrilous
I know it made me unstable.
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TrogL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 03:31 PM
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15. What does this have to do with the Da Vinci code or the Illuminati?
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