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European Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 02:05 PM
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When Smirk approval drops to single digits, will dems then grow spines.
Or, does he have to leave office first-so it's safe to come out from under the bed.
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rabid_nerd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 02:06 PM
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1. Come out of your cave
US dems have spines... it's those who refuse to call themselves Democrats who don't have one...
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European Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 02:16 PM
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7. some have spines....
But right now he should be getting the crap kicked out him by hundreds of Democrats-like the GOP did to Carter in 1980.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 02:07 PM
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2. 30% of the public would vote for Bush if he killed babies on live TV.
There's too much lockstep in the Republican party to expect him to get significantly lower than he is now. He's scraping the bottom as it is.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 02:10 PM
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3. A Touch Too High
But, you're right. There is a rabid right wing base that will vote repub if Christ was the Democrat, and Satan was the Repub running mate.

But, the base is smaller than 30%. The radical right is about i/16th of eligible voters.

The Professor
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 02:31 PM
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10. 98% of elected Republicans on the House and Senate
Edited on Thu Aug-18-05 02:31 PM by Kelvin Mace
would stand by him.

John McCain would give him a hug.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 02:36 PM
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13. And Lieberman would give him a kiss.
That was a bit weird.
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 02:39 PM
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14. That, As They Say, Is A Whole 'Nother Thing!
Actually, i doubt most elected reps care what he has to say either. They just keep pandering to the same base, but i really doubt the Senators believe Billy knows what he's talking about.
The Professor
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 02:35 PM
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11. If it's high, I don't think it's high by much.
Too high? Maybe. But, I think we'd be surprised at what's really out there.

It's not just the radical right, and the Republican die-hard base and the Bush base aren't necessarily the same thing. Bush's support inexplicably extends much further than the "Christian" right or Rush and his fanatics.

While I realize that Nebraska is a bad example, local polls here show his support STILL in the mid 60s, even now. Obviously, they can't all be far-right extremists.

A lot of people here voted for Bush because of his false bravado and faked Texas persona (which they didn't see through, of course). They still believe in that false front, defend his actions incessantly, and don't seem likely to bail on him, regardless of what he does.

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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 02:11 PM
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4. Not only that, they would come up with excuses about
why the babies deserved it. :crazy:

Don't laugh. That's what happened after the My Lai massacre. The gung ho types said that it was okay to slaughter Vietnamese children because they would just grow up to be Communists anyway.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 02:41 PM
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15. The scary thing is that some people STILL believe that crap, and it's been
30 years! Long-held misconceptions are a common theme with the Republican smear machine.

Even today, the right tries to smear people by calling them Communists or saying that they're supported by the Communist Party. Obviously, they're trying to tap a vein of long-held BS.

Happened to Kerry in '04, and I think it happened to Cindy Sheehan this week.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 02:11 PM
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5. I agree. Bush is almost as low as he can go - he's nearly down
to his "base". But as far as "the Dems growing a spine" thing, the Democrats in office are not afraid of Bush (so much) as they are afraid of their bankers...
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 02:13 PM
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6. Lieberman would still have his back
While simultaneously criticizing the radicals in the Democratic party.
:banghead:
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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 02:17 PM
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8. If having a backbone was politically advantageous, they would grow one
So many congresspersons seem to labor under the misconception that the Political Center in 2005 is somehow a neutral place. Their republican masters have convinced them of this, when in reality the center is far right of what the center was even a generation ago.
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Kelvin Mace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 02:30 PM
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9. No.
They must be replaced. They are congenitaol cowards.
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jrthin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 02:36 PM
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12. Then, I'll really have
no respect for them. Kicking a dead horse is easy.
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-18-05 02:43 PM
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16. not for thier kind of people
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