We have a nomination for a new Mr. Moran!

[Zan_of_Texas]

First, spend a few minutes on any one of these three magnificent collections of photos from Camp Casey and from the vigils for Cindy.

http://cryptome.sabotage.org/brp/bush-ranch1.htm
http://cryptome.sabotage.org/brp/bush-ranch2.htm
http://cryptome.sabotage.org/brp3/bush-ranch3.htm


For instance:



~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Then, I must submit the below pic in nomination for a new Mr. Moran.

I know DUers will all recall the fellow with the belly sticking out and the mullet with the sign calling the peace folk "Morans" from maybe a year or so ago. Now, in that fine tradition, we have a nominee:



Gary Muchler, right, of Wilkes-Barre attempts to disrupt a rally supporting Cindy Sheehan and criticizing President Bush as he grabs for a sign held by Robert Griffin, Wednesday, Aug. 17, 2005, on Public Square in Wilkes-Barre, Pa. The rally was part of a national observance for Sheehan's vigil in Texas. (AP Photo/The Citizens' Voice, Dave Scherbenco)

[Roland99]

1. I think he's had a few too many of what he advertises on his t-shirt

[bleedingheart]

2. hmmmm...I could same something really crude but I won't...

snicker snicker...

[murielm99]

3. Obscene.

Big belly, small dick (I surmise).

:puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke:

[getmeouttahere]

14. Oh yeah, with that belly...

it's even harder to see a small dick!

plus, with all the Rolling Rocks and whatever else he ate to get that belly, you couldn't get it up!

[kiraboo]

70. Puh-leeze! Doesn't anybody have compassion for an impotent,

delusional freeper with a small penis? And I do believe you're right about this, because look at his pants. He's trying to camoflage his inadequacies :rofl:

[Waya]

15. MMM.....

...I just love the way these Bush/War Worshippers, in order to bring their point across, show so much class.....This specimen here is a true cradit the their cause....


:applause:

[unhappycamper]

4. Looks like Mr. Muchler likes his Rolling Rocks.

:toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast: :toast:

[Zan_of_Texas]

5. In the war of ideas, Mr. Muchler brings guts.....

Okay. Now, go look at some of the other pictures -- they are great.

http://cryptome.sabotage.org/brp/bush-ranch1.htm
http://cryptome.sabotage.org/brp/bush-ranch2.htm
http://cryptome.sabotage.org/brp3/bush-ranch3.htm

[Rainscents]

65. Great Picture's... Thanks for the links!!!!!!!!

:patriot:

[IndyOp]

78. Great, great pics Zan --

I love the diversity - young and old; male and female; vets and non-military. If anyone looks at these pics there is no way they can stereotype a 'typical anti-war protester.'

O8)

[kiraboo]

6. For crying out loud!

Pull up your pants, man! LOL!

[FreedomAngel82]

52. Great pics!

I have noticed at the protest's there's always a very small ammount of Bush people there. They always look so angry and desperate but the anti-war people are always so peaceful and calm and collected. :)

[Fire Walk With Me]

86. Desperate is the word. Sign-grabbing? Whew.

[Spike from MN]

57. Nah. I think someone should pants him. However,

pictures of the pantsing incident are NOT allowed to be posted here or ANYWHERE under ANY circumstances.

[Deep13]

7. Too much Rolling Rock, not enough T shirt.

So conservatives will commit robbery if it is for their own divine message. That should not surprise me since this little county lost 700 Kerry signs to theft last year.

[LeftLibra]

8. Hilarious last pic,Zan!

:rofl: and :puke: at the same time!

[RebelOne]

9. No one can replace our original Mr. Moran.

[0007]

37. You mean this guy?



[Zan_of_Texas]

69. That's him. The Original Mr. Moran!

But, the picture has been cropped -- you used to be able to see that his t-shirt was a bit small too, although it is nothing compared to Mr. Moran #2.

[0007]

73. Here is the origial!

[mikeytherat]

10. He's got a "Dicky-Do"

In that his belly sticks out more than his dicky do.

mikey_the_rat

[swimboy]

32. Boo, Mikey!

:hi:

[magnetism]

44. Classic dunlap syndrome

His belly has done lapped over his belt.

[magnetism]

48. Classic dunlap syndrome

His belly has done lapped over his belt

[Tesla]

72. That's halarious!!!

Dicky-Do, I'll have to remember that!

[sabra]

11. but but he's a veteran

look at his camouflage pants! </sarcasm>

[Zenlitened]

12. A real proponent of American ideals such as freedom of speech...

... ain't he?

[mountaindem]

20. I'll submit to you all

that 10 years ago, that was someone that voted for democrats.

We're losing the working man and women in this country because they've been tricked by the GOP.
They've all been hijacked by the GOP into thinking that all muslims are evil and should be killed.
They've been hijacked by the GOP into thinking that gays will corrupt our children, etc.

Look at the polling done on the education gap after the November election, look where Kerry did better than Bush, it was in areas where people had college degrees and more than a high school education.
Bush did better with people with less than a college degree.
Why? Because the GOP has found a strategy where they can get people to vote against their own economic interests and life interests, by exploiting their prejudices against certain groups of people, religions, ethnicities, etc. For example, the war on terror, which may be better described as the war to kill muslims and islam, or arabs, or the fight against gay marriage.
If we are ever going to win again, we need to get middle to low class America back on our side, one way is to make unions stronger.
What is going in our favor right now, is the economy tanking, the GOP may just kill themselves in 2006 and 08.

[Zenlitened]

30. We do need to get middle America solidly back on our side....

... by getting our party solidly back on THEIR side again.


But I don't assume that this guy was once a Dem voter. Could be, maybe, we can't really say for sure. Sadly, I've met plenty of people like him -- uneducated, no prospects, but lifelong die-hard republicans. Sometimes, their need to bully people just trumps common sense.

[mountaindem]

36. personally

I think class warfare makes sense.
You're never going to completely eliminate poverty, because some corporate big wig will move to China or Mexico, or lay off workers, etc.
But, to help ease some of our ills in this country the first step should be to educate people on how to take care of themselves, i.e. find a job, stay clean, lead productive lives.
With republicans in office, we leave more and more middle to lower class americans behind every day.
Whenever, I encounter someone complaining about the war, or gas prices, or lack of jobs, I remind him that they voted for the idiot.
When they say that they did not, my reply is, "then how in the hell did he get re-elected?"
It shuts them up pretty quick.

[Zenlitened]

41. Whenthe repukes accuse us of waging class warfare, our response should be:

YOU'RE DAMN RIGHT WE ARE!

Average, everyday Americans are getting creamed by the kleptocrats of the repuke party.

[mountaindem]

49. the GOP

has done a good job convincing average americans that war and morals were in their best interest, but I think a lot are starting to see the light.

[Al-CIAda]

89. The R's have been waging class warfare on the people for a generation.

Since Reagan.

Damned straight, past time to push back.

[greekspeak]

13. Did the man he was attacking file assault charges?

If he was injured maybe he can press hate crime charges as well?

[cascadiance]

16. Awwww! He was probably just trying to find some toilet paper!

From the looks of him, he probably needs it frequently!

[rniel]

17. I would've expected him to be a Pabst Blue Ribbon man

Rolling rock is actually pretty decent tasting beer for the price.

[Wheaty]

60. Nah here in Pennsylvania

For years here in Pennsylvania Rolling Rock was our Pabst. For years it was the cheap stuff you could buy for the quick buzz. When it hit national and became a yuppie beer we in Pennsylvania thought it was funny to see all those Stock Brokers and Lawyers and the like drinking it.

[jackster]

92. Rolling Rock

may be a class B beer - but it's at the top of the heap!

It's the only non-microbrew American beer I really enjoy.

PBR - oooohhh! naaaaasty!

[Gabi Hayes]

18. hey Zan!!! thanks for the links

were you able to get them up at the other place?

I can't get in today, for whatever reason

if I can find my disk, I'll put a couple pix from our vigil

[Zan_of_Texas]

21. Yep. Thanks.

[whistle]

19. Reviewing those photos of the vigils in support of Cindy Sheehan

...from around the country, I kept thinking of this song:

<snip>
BRIGHT EYES LYRICS

"When The President Talks To God"

When the president talks to God
Are the conversations brief or long?
Does he ask to rape our women’s' rights
And send poor farm kids off to die?
Does God suggest an oil hike
When the president talks to God?

When the president talks to God
Are the consonants all hard or soft?
Is he resolute all down the line?
Is every issue black or white?
Does what God say ever change his mind
When the president talks to God?

When the president talks to God
Does he fake that drawl or merely nod?
Agree which convicts should be killed?
Where prisons should be built and filled?
Which voter fraud must be concealed
When the president talks to God?

When the president talks to God
I wonder which one plays the better cop
We should find some jobs, the ghetto's broke
No, they're lazy, George, I say we don't
Just give 'em more liquor stores and dirty coke
That's what God recommends

When the president talks to God
Do they drink near beer and go play golf
While they pick which countries to invade
Which Muslim souls still can be saved?
I guess god just calls a spade a spade
When the president talks to God

When the president talks to God
Does he ever think that maybe he's not?
That that voice is just inside his head
When he kneels next to the presidential bed
Does he ever smell his own bullshit
When the president talks to God?

I doubt it

I doubt it

<end of snip>

(I don't have a link of the video performance on Leno Show from earlier this year.)

[BattyDem]

22. I have mixed feelings about this picture

"War is the answer" - what a nice sentiment. :eyes:

I feel sorry for the woman next to her, with the sign that says, "My husband did not die in vain" - I suspect that's why many families who have lost someone in Iraq refuse to turn on Bush. If they did, they would have to admit that their loved one died for nothing ... and that's got to hurt. :-(

[uppityperson]

38. Exactly, it must really really hurt to know that they died for a lie

So they say they didn't. When I die, if it is for a stupid reason, I'm going to be really pissed. I am so sorry for the people who have gotten killed and the huge number injured, physically mentally spiritually, but this invasion/occupation and this is why I am working to get the USA troops out of Iraq.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

42. Some people who are grieving the loss of their loved ones

Do have to keep up the pretense that they died for a good cause. Some of them will come to terms with the fact that they didn't in time. Others never will.

I hold no judgment against those who've lost loved ones in this war and still cling to the belief it was for a good cause. I am not the one living their hell, and for that I'm very grateful.


Having said my piece above... That ripped up cardboard sign stating "war is the answer" shows how lost that little puppy is. Let us all hope she doesn't procreate.

[BattyDem]

53. Both women are in denial ...

but the grieving woman's attitude is understandable - the other woman needs to do some serious soul-searching.

That's what I meant about having mixed feelings when seeing the photo. I want to hug the woman on the right ... I want to slap the woman on the left!

[Spike from MN]

54. If war is the answer, WTF is the question?? n/t

[tabasco]

58. War is the answer, but I ain't in it.

That about says it all.

Well, there's three of them. I hope they don't reproduce.

[RaleighNCDUer]

79. Worse than dying for nothing --

that happens every day in car crashes and such -- he died for oil company profits. He died so others could get rich.

That is dispicable.

His dying, not his service. Hate to have to clarify, but someone will take it wrong if I don't.

[jackster]

93. somehow I just don't think

that little lady is telling the truth there with her husband sign....

she doesn't seem very upset or unhappy or sad.... just uppity!

I bet its a lie!

[Generic Other]

23. I didn't think it was possible to outdo the moran

Buit you are correct. This guy's on his way to full moran status!

Oh my eyes.

[Obamarama]

24. Looks like a resident of Bush's pig farm (aka "ranch") got loose....

Su-eeeeeeey!

[TheCowsCameHome]

25. Nice threads, Gary. Goodwill must have you in their Rolodex

There's a real man. How about sending him to Iraq.

[City Lights]

26. How gross!

Get a bigger shirt, moran!

At least it's a front shot. I'm sure he'd need some crack spackle if we saw his back end!

[flakey_foont]

27. Hmmm

and the nation sees this picture...

hmmm, on the one hand, we have decent, respectable citizens exercising their right to free speech

while in the opposite corner,, weighing in at well over 200 pounds, Mr. Disgusting Fat Slob About to Lose His Pants

[livinginphotographs]

28. He's not a Bush-supporter.

He sounds like more like a militia nut.

http://www.citizensvoice.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=15055153&BRD=2259&PAG=461&dept_id=455154&rfi=8

[Zan_of_Texas]

39. Well dang.

The article said he criticized the peace rally as ineffective, saying the war is for oil and people should stop driving cars (he roared up in a motorcycle), and have a revolution.

I agree with him the war is for oil (and empire). But, he needs to work on his presentation and people skills.

[Zenlitened]

45. Sounded like he was reading from a script, almost.

Was the whole thing a parody of some sort? :shrug:

[VOX]

43. Disruptor, either disturbed or right-wing operative. Don't need him.

If he is indeed emotionally disturbed, he needs help and I hope that he gets it.

[PittLib]

74. Thanks for posting ...

I appreciate that you bothered to find something about the guy instead of simply judging him by the photo. There is irony in the original "Moran" photo that makes it humorous and clear in its context. This one isn't so clear and everyone has jumped all over it with petty comments, as though all anti-war types are svelte and beautiful. It seems that he is as well, just more extreme. I generally take such comments with a grain ... they're disappointing -but not unexpected. These, however, do make us look like the snotty elitists the right portrays us to be. If he was a vet silently holding a candle, would you make fun of his bulging belly? Frankly, if I was so given to assumption ... I'd think the guy in the suit was the instigator. He looks more like a Republican stereotype - but since it is just a photo (a media photo, at that) I reserve judgment. I don't condone his behavior or alleged vulgarity ... but with only a vague caption to go on, making fun of his looks and suggesting him to be a stupid "Republican" is ridiculous.

[RetroLounge]

29. He tries that with me he's gonna be eating Elbow...

RL

[Zenlitened]

71. Seriously. Someone lunges at ya, then elbows and knees, fists and feet --

it's all fair game at that point.

Plus, it's funny when bullies cry. :D

[Mythsaje]

31. May I never encounter

someone this stupid. As soon as he made the mistake of laying his grubby hands on me, he would find himself on his face on the sidewalk with his wrist/hand bent in an uncomfortable position.

Not from any conscious volition on my part, mind you, but because I loathe being touched by someone who doesn't have permission and my reflexes are trained to respond in specific ways.

[Stephanie]

33. Maybe he wants to sell the guy's sign to buy more beer?

[quiet.american]

66. Okay, that made me laugh. :) n/t

[EC]

34. damn it, I was eating my lunch

but that sagging, bulge just put an end to that...


On the other hand I love the difference it shows between the protesters and the one on ** side...So who in that photo looks the mainstream and which one looks like a kook? Oh yeah, those wide-eyed, pot smoking, hippie protesters....

[Lerkfish]

59. offtopic: some of US have sagging bulges...

I'm just sayin

:shrug:

focus instead on his hateful actions, I say.

[EC]

67. Sorry... n/t

[Lerkfish]

77. no problem. my wife still finds me attractive...

but she knows me. :)

[EC]

85. That's all that counts... n/t

[VOX]

35. Another compassionate, beautiful soul who loves freedom and America!

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

God bless America, where all points of view are guaranteed by the Constitution! Is "Mr. Rolling Rock" a * voter? You bet!!! :thumbsup:

:sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

[Dr Fate]

40. These people are truly living caricatures. n/t

n/t

[FreedomAngel82]

46. That second guy is such a jerk!

If you don't want to protest: STAY HOME! Good grief!

[uppityperson]

47. Nope, keep the old Moran, he was too doofusy on so many levels

The old Moran strikes most everyone as a doofus. I am having a difficult time saying what is wrong with using this one. I guess he hits the wrong stereotypes for me, that I'd rather use one that looked ridiculous and makes everyone laugh, than this one that looks angry and promotes hatefulness. Besides, the Moran is young enough and fit enough to enlist. This guy is just pitiful.

[The Witch]

50. OH! My EYES!!!

Thank god they didn't take the picture a second earlier when his pants fell down COMPLETELY!

:yoiks:

[wicket]

51. Hahahahahahahaha!!!

The huge beer gut is a nice touch with the Rolling Rock shirt :rofl:

[tnlefty]

55. Thanks for the warning. I'll have to cut back on my consumption

of Rolling Rock! The original moran is still my fav, but this guy has potential. LOL.

[lildreamer316]

56. Nothing exemplifies the class war better UNFORTUNATELY.

I really don't like this picture because of the message it sends. Man in suit-liberal; man in "poor clothes"=regular guy=Republican.
Let's not spread this about too much. I don't agree with what happend but this sure isn't going to help.

[NoPasaran]

61. This guy really gives

This guy really gives potbellied beerswilling jugheads a bad name.

[SharonRB]

62. See this thread -- the "Moran" guy is all over the place today

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4398173

[Gabi Hayes]

63. speaking of morans, look at the moran in the sign I printed up for

this yute at the vigil the other night

[Catherine Vincent]

64. Look at that fat hanging belly!

[Lerkfish]

87. please see post #59. thanks.

otherwise, his actions are hate-filled and atrocious.
There are just as mean-spirited SKINNY freepers, too.

[Hissyspit]

68. How is he keeping his pants up?

I mean, really.

[jokerman93]

75. Bush's base! LOL

They keep showing up, don't they? Why aren't the Republican's utterly embarrassed yet?

[rateyes]

90. "Bush's Base" ROFLMAO!

:rofl:

[SalmonChantedEvening]

76. The camouflage pants ain't workin' Gary!

I still see an asshat.

[newscott]

80. I have only one thing to say to Mr. Muchler

-33-

[rateyes]

81. Thank God...

Mulcher's belt is doing its job!! :spray:

[Jimbo S]

82. Nice pants....NOT!!

[Carla in Ca]

83. OMG, what a pic!

We should have a gallery with this 'gut' guy and also that woman from the convention with the band-aid on her chin. There are so many to choose from. Disgusting.

[Surya Gayatri]

84. Substance abuse

Mr. Moran II obviously has a serious drinking problem--look at that red schnoz, those burst blood vessels. He also seems to be lurching or staggering toward his target--alcohol induced lack of balance. :beer:

[Fleshdancer]

88. This is what a beer ad should really look like

:rofl:

[B Calm]

91. From behind someone should of grabbed his britches

and yanked them down to his ankles.

[Zan_of_Texas]

94. Personally, I've seen more than enough of him.

[YellerdawgFlorida]

95. That is just scary! n/t