Holy Shit!! I love Paul Krugman -- Cant believe this is in the NY Times

[BigBearJohn]

In his recent book "Steal This Vote" - a very judicious work, despite its title - Andrew Gumbel, a U.S. correspondent for the British newspaper The Independent, provides the best overview I've seen of the 2000 Florida vote. And he documents the simple truth: "Al Gore won the 2000 presidential election."

But few Americans have heard these facts. Perhaps journalists have felt that it would be divisive to cast doubt on the Bush administration's legitimacy. If so, their tender concern for the nation's feelings has gone for naught: Cindy Sheehan's supporters are camped in Crawford, and America is more bitterly divided than ever.

Meanwhile, the whitewash of what happened in Florida in 2000 showed that election-tampering carries no penalty, and political operatives have acted accordingly. For example, in 2002 the Republican Party in New Hampshire hired a company to jam Democratic and union phone banks on Election Day

Our current political leaders would suffer greatly if either house of Congress changed hands in 2006, or if the presidency changed hands in 2008. The lids would come off all the simmering scandals, from the selling of the Iraq war to profiteering by politically connected companies. The Republicans will be strongly tempted to make sure that they win those elections by any means necessary. And everything we've seen suggests that they will give in to that temptation.

{emphasis added by me}

SOURCE: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/19/opinion/19krugman.html?incamp=article_popular

[The Backlash Cometh]

1. Stand in line.

We all loved him long before you did.

[BigBearJohn]

26. hmmm.... how do you know how long I loved him?

[The Backlash Cometh]

42. Alls I need to know, is that I was singing praises to Krugman long

before you posted your first thread to DU. He's my man. Well, after his wife, that is.

[steve2470]

2. Wow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I bet the NYT cans him for this nt

[BigBearJohn]

8. I sure hope not.

[steve2470]

9. I hope not also. If he is, we must help him somehow nt

[WiseButAngrySara]

19. Is that possible? Not playing dumb here (maybe BEING dumb, or

naive), but can NYT fire Him?

[steve2470]

38. I'm guessing he has a contract with them

It might be illegal but when has that stopped these idiots.

[MADem]

45. Doubtful, the editors have read this before it was printed n/t

[me b zola]

3. The gloves come off

NY Times has been delivering quite a series of blows to chimpy. *jab* *jab* *left hook* *right undercut*

I await the knock-out blow. :popcorn: :beer:

[steve2470]

4. kick nt

[tocqueville]

5. one of the sources is here

http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/093004E.shtml

[sepia_steel]

6. It's slowly starting to turn...

I'm not religious but I'm praying my ass off that it all continues to come out.

[Mnemosyne]

7. Amen sepia, amen! n/t

[BigBearJohn]

11. Vickiss, In reponse to your early note, I can't make it next month

I have a temporary disability

[Mnemosyne]

17. I'm sorry John, wish I could help in

some way. Pa is so far from Cal. I'm sure(hope) you have some folks to help you out there. I know you'll be in DC in spirit!!
Crazy times waiting to see what comes next with the idiots in charge. I am praying for Fitzgerald to bring on the indictments. It can't be soon enough for me!
Get well and take care sweetie!:hi: :hug:

[Blue_In_AK]

10. Excellent piece...

Paul Krugman rocks.

[Warren DeMontague]

12. And remember the stories about paid GOP activist Nathan Sproul

and his "America Votes" organization?

You know, the folks who were allegedly registering voters in swing states; and destroying the registration forms of the Democrats?

Hmmmm. Funny how that investigation disappeared, too.

[Gay Green]

16. It's amazing what isn't investigated or is whitewashed or gets swept under

the rug when you live under fascism.

:mad: :grr: :banghead: :nuke: :argh: :puke:

[fearnobush]

30. Yes exhibit # 3764 of the means used to steal the 04 elections.

There were so many stories like this in the weeks before Nov 2nd, yet no one in the media followed up on any of these crimes.

[Warren DeMontague]

31. No, the word came down right after the election - "Shut up about all that"

For a so called "free" press, it was downright surreal and creepy.

[flyarm]

13. we need to write ltte and applaude mr krugman!! now!! n/t

[BigBearJohn]

14. Great idea! Now why didn't *I* think of that. Thanks. Doing it right now

[steve2470]

15. kick nt

[autorank]

18. I love him too and "I love you man" for paying close attention to fraud.

This is the time, the tipping point has arrived. People want to know, how did this idiot get elected. Well, here's the answer, he didn't.

I've been saying for months that when * went below 40%, the election fraud issue would emerge. It has. Thank you Paul K.

Check this out (it's referenced all of the internet):
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=203x348022


And this: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0307/S00147.htm

It's time...right now. INVESTIGATION, AUDIT, REALITY TIME.

[lala_rawraw]

20. I have said this all along... they cannot lose power

Or EVERYTHING will come out and I don't think they need the elections to keep power, they have many options now that we have crossed the Rubicon. IMHO.

[WiseButAngrySara]

21. Thanks so much for posting this. I talked to my Dad this afternoon,

and casually mentioned to him that I'd be sending him an e-mail regarding 18 statistical improbabilties that you'ld have to believe in order to believe that the 2004 election wasn't tampered with (posted here at DU) and that I thought it would convince him about exit poll data, etc that I'd talked about incessantly (email and long distance) post election. Dad always gave me the impression that it was tin-hat conspiracy theory, but he'd agree on some points. He asked if I'd read the article in the NYT by Paul Krugman? I told him I hadn't but would, and he said it addressed these issues. Right, I thought! But it's TRUE! This is wonderful. I noticed that there are several threads in regards to this. Keep it kicked.

[meganmonkey]

22. Good lord my heart is pounding

Sheeeee-it, that just made my night!!!
:bounce:

[BigBearJohn]

25. You're cute!

[meganmonkey]

43. Mostly just enthusiastic

but thanks :blush:

[I Have A Dream]

23. Paul is a real American hero. n/t

[casual hex]

24. Krugman knows how these criminals think

I heard Krugman on the radio a while back giving a speech somewhere and he was really laying it out for the audience. He knows, way more so than he can say in writing in his NY Times column, that these sub-humans in power in the White House are an immediate and dire threat to this country.

Talking of Krugman, the thing I liked most about his recent "intelligent design" column was that throughout the whole piece he never capitalized intelligent design -- always rendered it in lowercase. I think you know why. Please remember that if you are ever writing about it. No caps. You'd be amazed how many people just automatically capitalize it without realizing it.

[Obamarama]

40. Another new DUer speaks. Welcome! eot

[understandinglife]

27. Some excellent comments on the Krugman Op-Ed can be found here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4394512

And, tonight, Maureen Dowd delivers the second home-run of the week:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4403833&mesg_id=4403833

We will prevail, my fellow Americans, as long as you demand the evidence that your vote is counted exactly as you intend.

"NOT ONE LINE OF SOFTWARE BETWEEN YOUR VOTE AND A VALID ELECTION"


Peace.

[BigBearJohn]

28. Oops. Sorry. I didnt see your thread.

[understandinglife]

29. Oh, never to worry .... we need to keep this Op-Ed in front of as many ...

...folk as we can. Just wanted to be sure everyone saw the excellent comments in the other thread.

And, Ms Dowd hit it way out of the park tonight!!


Peace.

[brettdale]

32. kick

kick

[autorank]

33. Kick (for the Truth)

A comprehensive explanation of election fraud--text and key links

or try…

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0507/S00238.htm

[marew]

34. I saw him get into it with O'Liely once. O'Liely got creamed!

I love this guy! I subscribe to the NYTimes online (its free). He does write some of the best op/ed pieces in that paper. They have great op/ed people.

[AtomicKitten]

35. Not much point voting

if the EVMs aren't dealt with. Rush Holt's HR-2239 was virtually ignorned in the House. Howard Dean suggested citizens gather signatures to put mandates on their state ballots by which only machines that can do a paper recount may be used in the state. SOMETHING must be done before 2006 or the cheating will go on and on and on an on ...

[BlueEyedSon]

36. He's DA MAN!

[steve2470]

37. kick nt

[Swamp Rat]

39. EXCELLENT!!!

:applause:

[BlueIris]

41. Yeah, this article is great.

Kisses, Mr. Krugman.

[La Coliniere]

44. Krugman is Da Man, man.

I second that motion! The man has cajones, yes he does.

[steve2470]

46. kick nt