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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 02:18 PM
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Just back from Camp Casey and WOW
I arrived at the Peace House about 11:00 yesterday & took a shuttle to the Camps. For a 100% volunteer operation that never knows what it's going to be dealing with on a day-to-day basis, they've got things pretty well organized. :) I parked in an open lot across from the Peace House & took a shuttle out to the camps. I ended up at Camp II only to find that my friends were STILL IN AUSTIN!! :grr: So, when the call came out for help in the kitchen (for "full benefits & 5 wks' pd vacation"--yay! ;) ), I dove in. Met folks from all over: 2 kids from Springfield, Mo who drove 13 hours straight to be in Crawford until later today, a woman who just got off a red-eye from LA, 4 loud Texans from Nederland who came armed with signs. I also ran into several DUers: Distressed American (dude you are one funny traffic cop & i think skinner should make you a permanent moderator.... :rofl: ), Lisa0825, WestHoustonDem, Derby, Brainshrub...I was told elehnnna was there but never caught up w/her. :( I heard a few other DUers were there, but never met up with them either.

When my friends finally arrived, we went to Camp I to stand with signs. My friend Irma was the one with the sign about Rumsfield & his armored Hummer. Even though Camp II was in full swing, there were still many camped out at Camp I & I think they will be staying there until the protest ends. I could not get all of Camp I into one frame....I had to take several shots (film to be developed & photos posted when they're available). The same could not be said for Camp Freeper. Poor dears, they tried soooo hard. :rofl: 2 lousy tents, a few signs (one that initially misspelled "providence" as "providense" but was corrected later....I hope some intrepid DUer got that pic because they fixed it before we got back). Some biker Freepers kept trolling by in their fancy choppers before parking illegally at Camp Freeper. Hmm, they were healthy, strapping men, looking to be about enlistment age....how come they weren't in Iraq???? :shrug: Anyhow, the very professional deputies of the McLellan Cty Sheriff's Department gave them a few minutes to move & then it was 5....4.....3....2.....1.....there goes a deputy to politely tell them to get the bikes off the road or be towed. Some discussion ensued but in the end, the pretty bikes w/all the fancy chrome ended up in the ditch...gosh I hope none of that fancy chrome got scratched or anything....Just to show that their stupidity was still on parade, one of them hoisted a sign that said "All Soldiers are Volunteers." :wtf: Does this mean this guy would be AGAINST the war if there was a draft??????? I finally got close enough to the "providense" sign to see that the person who made it was not only politically but historically confused in that they think that democracy was the tool God was using to spread the Gospel....yeah, let's go sell that to the Muslim Iraqis, why don't we?

There was a guy in an OU (oklahoma u.) cap who kept yelling things at the residents of Camp Casey...my friend Nancy said it probably had more to do with the fact that as an OU fan he was probably too close to UT for his comfort. Someone else pointed out he probably also needed to get some water....the freepers looked remarkably under-stocked & under-prepared for counter-protesting in 100-degree heat. The fact that shuttles full of protestors, food, & other supplies kept passing them by probably added to their frustrations.

More stupidity on parade: the idiots who would drive by the Peace House yelling "WAR!! ALL RIGHT!!! WOO HOOO!!! WAR!!!" I'm sorry, are we supposed to be CHEERING death & carnage? :shrug:

In the "Money can buy you everything but class" category: the shrubbie supporter in the fancy car who was brave enough to flip us off at Camp I AFTER he saw that the deputies were facing another direction.....

Also at Camp I, I walked the length of the crosses set up by the side of the road. I'm not a good judge of distances, but I'd say it was at least 1/4 mile long, 2 rows wide. :( They were in the process of moving that memorial to Camp II so maybe at one point it was longer but even so, it was still moving.

Back at Camp II, we were served dinner (donations accepted) & we listened to Barry Crimmins from AAR as well as several speakers from Gold Star Families for Peace & Military Families Speak Out. The one speaker who got to me the most was the brother of a soldier who died...turns out the soldier was adopted, having been abandoned by his birth parents when he was a few weeks' old, & went into the military to get $$ for college to make a better life for himself. Unfortunately, he was killed in Iraq. :( At sunset, they played taps at the crosses & afterwards in the silence, a lone voice began "Let there be peace on earth," & we all joined in. It was getting pretty late for me at that point & fatigue was really setting in. Since I had been up since 3 a.m. & it was now about 9, we decided to leave. It was very difficult for them to keep the shuttles going because drivers get tired, or they have to return home, so we ended up waiting 40 minutes for a ride back to the Peace House. We discussed the possibilities of renting vans & driving back to Crawford next weekend to help out so no one else has to wait this long.

I intend to be back next weekend with a van to help shuttle folks around between the Peace House & the Camps. I need to check my finances & my work calendar to see if it's feasible, but if it is, I'm going.

If you are going, be prepared to sweat. Even under the wonderful huge tent at Camp II, it is still very hot. Keep water with you. Bring water, snacks & a cooler. While food was available, since it's all donated & they never know the size of the crowd that's showing up, you shouldn't depend on the Peace House or the Camps for your food & water. If you have left-overs (like I did), you can donate them to the last Camp you're at.

Well, I'm off to take a nap & get rested up for next weekend!!!

dg
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DemsUnited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 02:23 PM
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1. Thanks so much for great update! Really paints a pic for those of us
who can't go...
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 02:29 PM
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6. What DemsUnited said!
:thumbsup:
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faithnotgreed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 02:26 PM
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2. fantastic report dg - thank you so much
for all your commitment and your work and for your sanity~
ha
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 02:27 PM
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3. Hooray! You made it!
I am so proud of you, DG. :hug:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 02:27 PM
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4. Wonderful!
:applause: :applause::applause:
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 02:28 PM
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5. This was a very good read
Thanks for all your details including the poignant moments.
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unrepuke Donating Member (763 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 02:31 PM
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7. for Freepers 'ProviDENSE' is correct... Like PreziDENSE
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 02:32 PM
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8. From Brainshrub!
Edited on Sun Aug-21-05 02:34 PM by Generic Other


I posted a link to the DU Camp Casey News site:

8/21 ALL DU Cindy threads DAY 15
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4413475

You ARE the news. Excellent report from another DU man on the scene!
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 02:48 PM
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14. Notice the large crowds there to support * ................ROFLMAO!
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 04:21 PM
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36. Maybe they are all off the clock today!
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

peace.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 02:34 PM
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9. Duers did get a pic of the "Providense" sign.
Edited on Sun Aug-21-05 02:35 PM by Hissyspit
It was in a thread by Brainshrub: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4407456

Thanks for the great description of things/situation at Camp Casey!
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Rude Horner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 02:35 PM
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10. Thanks for posting!
I love getting these updates about what's going on there. The more detail the better, and your post was great!!

Isn't that amazing - those people shouting "War! Yeah! Woohoo!" To people like that, there is no reasoning with them. This is all just a game. We're on one "team" and they're on another "team" and it's just a big rah rah fest to them. Ask them to actually volunteer to join this war that they're so hyped up about and see the blank stares.

Oh, and for that guy who held up a sign that said all soldiers are volunteers, tell that to the soldiers who are victims of the "stop-loss" policy - soldiers who have been forced to stay in Iraq, despite having passed their official dates for retirement. At that point, it's no longer "voluntary" folks.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 03:31 PM
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21. I would ask them why they are not
volunteering. :heehee:
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firefox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 02:43 PM
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11. Nevermind n/t
Edited on Sun Aug-21-05 02:46 PM by firefox
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onecent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 02:45 PM
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12. This is beautiful!
The MOST interesting to note is how you described the Freeper camp. The main stream media has led me and some of my friends to actually believe they had a HUGE showing.(showed a bunch of motorcylces yesterday on the news)

What a joke our media is. lies and more lies.

Thanks so much for your great letter!!!! You make me want to go to Camp Casey immediately!!!!
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 03:34 PM
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24. The media also doesn't tell us
Edited on Sun Aug-21-05 03:35 PM by proud2Blib
that there were no more than FOUR freepers there last week at one time.

And they failed to tell us about the guy shouting that he hoped Teddy Kennedy would give Cindy a ride home. Or the ones who were yelling 'we don't care' during the prayer vigil last weekend.
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 04:19 PM
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35. there were a large # of motorcycles there
I saw them lining up on a side road on my first trip out to the camps. I never saw them again, so I don't know if they made it by Camp II or not. The only ones I saw after that were the 6 or 7 who kept parading by Camp I & then had to put their pretty bikes in the ditch. Before they showed up, there were at most 8 people at Camp Freeper. When we went by around 10pm last night, there appeared to be one lone shade tent set up there...it was too dark so I couldn't tell if anyone stayed out there over night.

dg
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 05:01 PM
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39. Pic from the Iconoclast


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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 02:46 PM
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13. I love these people on the street (or in the ditch) reports :^D
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Im with Rosey Donating Member (619 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 02:49 PM
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15. I love the reports, great job!
Isn't it amazing though, that without DU reports, we would only see what the m$m wants us to see- NOTHING.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 02:56 PM
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16. Very descriptive and inspiring account
Thanks! :hi:
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 02:57 PM
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17. So did the deputies wheel the bikes into the ditch, or did they kick
them into the ditch?
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 04:26 PM
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37. well
i bet the deputies wanted to kick them into the ditch, but i believe the riders moved them there by themselves. they did it while i was off looking at the crosses.

dg
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Stockholm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 03:13 PM
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18. Well done WolverineDG!
A weekend well spent, keep it up.

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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 03:24 PM
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19. Great report! Wonderful details....painted a pic for us.
You have a talent for imagery....and for selflessness.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 03:26 PM
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20. Yay! Thank you so much for your great report.
I didn't make it there today after all... :cry:
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 03:31 PM
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22. Thanks for sharing
:patriot:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 03:32 PM
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23. TWO tents??
They only had one when I left there on Thurs.

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hayu_lol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 03:45 PM
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26. For those who can...
Edited on Sun Aug-21-05 03:46 PM by hayu_lol
Keep in mind the caravan of Freepers leaving San Francisco Monday...stops en route for media circus...and arrival on or about 8-27 in Crawford. This caravan has several sponsors including KFSO San Francisco hate radio.

Wish I lived closer. Thanks to all who have given us all the updates.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 04:15 PM
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32. I will believe this when I see it
If I believed everything I have read on FR and other hate sites about sending protesters to Crawford, I would think there would be a small army there by now.

But as I keep saying here, please remember, the entire time I was in Crawford, we never saw more than FOUR of them. ONE tent and FOUR of them.
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 04:07 PM
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31. Can't be freepers. Note the lack of porta-potties.
(That was my obligatory freeper/porta-potty comment of the day.)

Bless all of you there in Crawford. Be safe. Watch out for each other. And God knows, if there were any way I could be there with you, I would.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 04:16 PM
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33. They had no porta potties when I was there.
NONE
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 05:17 PM
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41. Well, heck, no WONDER they always look so uncomfortable!
After all, Terminal Constipation (tm) is NOT a good thing.

Well, except for them. :evilgrin:
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Burried News Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 06:09 PM
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42. I wonder what Osama things when he looks at this picture?
Like Frank Rich said - this war is over.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 03:43 PM
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25. You didn't let the freeper finish the sentence:
Freepers say: "All soldiers volunteered - LET 'EM DIE !!"




SOLDIERS DIDN'T VOLUNTEER TO DIE FOR CORPORATE PROFITS!

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kliljedahl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 03:52 PM
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27. Thanks for the update WolverineDG
Edited on Sun Aug-21-05 03:53 PM by kliljedahl
Can't be there in person, but there in spirit. saw my name on the DU poster in another thread. Made me really feel good. BTW, what the hell was DA up to?
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 03:55 PM
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28. Thanks for keeping us posted......
I love the different stories coming in from both Camps. :toast:
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 03:56 PM
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29. Wonderful report.
:kick:
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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 04:00 PM
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30. Great report - thanks for being there!
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 04:18 PM
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34. That was a terrific summation of Camp Casey.
Normally it's difficult for me to read through a long post because I'm always in a hurry, but I was fascinated by every word.

Your comment about the OU fan too close to UT for comfort :rofl:

As for the soldiers being volunteers, absolutely not true. They volunteered to serve their country because they were under the mistaken impression that the highest office in the land would not lie to them nor exploit them. They most assuredly did not "volunteer" to serve, bleed and die for Halliburton and the war profiteers.

We need to hear more about DA as a traffic cop :7


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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 04:41 PM
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38. Is there an address/e-mail to send $ support?
Edited on Sun Aug-21-05 04:43 PM by lebkuchen
On edit: I found it

Monetary donations are needed and can be sent to:
Crawford Peace House
P.O. Box 710218
Dallas, Tx. 75371-0218

or use PayPal below

http://www.crawfordpeacehouse.org/
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spuddonna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 05:06 PM
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40. Thanks for the awesome report!! :) n/t
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SharonRB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 10:12 PM
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43. Thanks for the great update, DG
I'm so glad you could go.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-22-05 12:51 AM
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44. Excellent Update !!!
:yourock:
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