Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Update in ACLU Torture FOIA Lawsuit - No Appeal

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU
 
jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 07:17 PM
Original message
Update in ACLU Torture FOIA Lawsuit - No Appeal
Edited on Sun Aug-21-05 07:20 PM by jsamuel
Note that they are not appealing the release of their documents for defense (does not deal with the actual photos - Aug 30 for that).

http://www.aclu.org/International/International.cfm?ID=18921&c=36


Update in ACLU Torture FOIA Lawsuit

August 19, 2005

Contact: media@aclu.org

Following a two-hour closed hearing in New York on August 15, a federal judge ordered the government to reveal blacked-out portions of its legal papers arguing against the release of images depicting abuse of detainees at Abu Ghraib. The government has told the court it will not appeal the decision and will release the documents in their entirety sometime next week.

The court will next hear arguments on August 30 to determine whether the Defense Department must release 87 photographs and four videos depicting abuse and torture at Abu Ghraib. After unsuccessfully invoking the Geneva Conventions to block the release of the images, the government is now citing a legal provision that permits the withholding of records "compiled for law enforcement purposes," that "could reasonably be expected to endanger the life or physical safety of any individual."

In a friend-of-the-court brief submitted in the case, The Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press and several media outlets and associations, including CBS Broadcasting, NBC Universal, The Hearst Corporation, The New York Times Co. and the American Society of Newspaper Editors, object to "the government's misdirected effort to undermine the by asserting, in essence, that its own misconduct has created an indictment too damning for the public to see." Read the brief at http://action.aclu.org/torturefoia/legal/amicus080305.pdf.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 07:18 PM
Response to Original message
1. Yes!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 07:19 PM
Response to Original message
2. kick
:dem:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 07:20 PM
Response to Original message
3. Wow, Cindy, CNN special, Rove under suspicion and now this
Whoo-hoo!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 07:20 PM
Response to Original message
4. Slowly but surely the truth will come out.
So glad they won't appeal this provision. Now on to the images.

:thumbsup:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Cats Against Frist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 07:20 PM
Response to Original message
5. I love that last quote
That's exactly what they're doing -- trying to hide their war crimes by any means possible. It's twisted, isn't it?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 07:21 PM
Response to Original message
6. Progress in exposing the crimes of the regime.
We demand to know what is done in our name!

The corporate cabal fears the truth above all else.

The Iraqi People know what happened at Abu Ghraib. Now it is time for the American People to learn.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 07:23 PM
Response to Original message
7. MInor step forward
All this means is that they have to make public their reasons for violating the court order to release the photos.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rainscents Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 07:23 PM
Response to Original message
8. Kick!!!
Thanks for posting this!!!

:kick: :kick: :kick:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 07:25 PM
Response to Original message
9. Once those pictures come out
public support for the Iraq war will collapse into the all but the hardest of the hard core neo-conservatives.

The first round of pictures, we were told, were the "mild" pictures.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 07:25 PM
Response to Original message
10. OK Now we'll find out why they think they have a new
excuse to keep the pics away from the American public. I guess that's a step in the right direction. But it looks like the meat and potatoes of the issue will be served up on the 30th..... or not.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Gary173 Donating Member (58 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 07:39 PM
Response to Reply #10
13. I would venture a guess that if
those photos are released the military will need additional guards at the prisons in Iraq to prevent the Iraqi public from storming them. Like maybe 700 Paratroopers from the 82nd Airborne Division.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 09:12 PM
Response to Reply #13
15. The Iraqi people already know all about it.
It's only the American public who are in the dark now.
Welcome to DU :toast:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 07:36 PM
Response to Original message
11. Thanks for the reminder
:kick:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 07:38 PM
Response to Original message
12. Not the picts, just the documents saying why no picts
This is still not about the pictures, but the government must show it's arguments (arguments being don't release picts). Government filed papers saying don't release picts, only they blacked out portions of those papers for public viewing. Now they must show the entire filing.

The next date for anything to happen is the court will hear reasons to not release picts, more than is given in this filing. Aug 30.

It is good that at least we can see the reasons they give for asking for the pictures to not be released rather than "don't release them and we won't tell you why we say this". I hate these guys.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-21-05 08:32 PM
Response to Original message
14. kick
:kick:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Wed Apr 24th 2024, 09:04 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (Through 2005) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC