OMG....You must see these comments on "womens rights" from the WH

[cthrumatrix]

How the White House Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Islamic Law

“The advance of women’s rights and the advance of liberty are ultimately inseparable.”
– President Bush, 3/14/04

“President Bush has made the advance of women’s human rights a global policy priority. … We all have an obligation to speak for women who are denied their rights to learn, to vote or to live in freedom.”
– First Lady Laura Bush, 3/8/05

“The commitment of this administration to women’s rights in Iraq is unshakable.”
– Labor Secretary Elaine Chao, 3/9/04

“There can be no compromise on the principle that Iraqis can each have an equal role in the building of their country’s future without regard to their ethnic or religious background or gender.”
– U.S. Ambassador to Iraq Zalmay Khalilzad, 8/8/05

VERSUS

According to Kurdish and Sunni negotiators, the US ambassador, Zalmay Khalilzad, proposed that Islam be named “a primary source” and supported a wording which would give clerics authority in civil matters such as divorce, marriage and inheritance.

If approved, critics say that the proposals would erode women’s rights and other freedoms enshrined under existing laws. … Dozens of women gathered in central Baghdad yesterday to protest against what the organiser, Yanar Mohammad, feared would be a “fascist, nationalist and Islamist” constitution. “We are fighting to avoid becoming second class citizens,” she said.

http://thinkprogress.org/


I guess this is shrub's "noble cause"...lesser womens rights in Iraq.

[wicket]

1. Freedom's on the march!

[rodeodance]

5. wonder why we are not hearing ourage from women's groups in the US?

[cthrumatrix]

6. shhhhhhhhh...keep it quiet...don't let amerikan's know tooo much

[Scout]

7. maybe they are a little busy fighting...

*the Roberts nomination
*continuing attacks on abortion rights at the local, state and national level
*for equal pay for equal work, and no discrimination in promotions and hiring
*to get their prescriptions for birth control filled by right wing anti choice pharmacists
*to get morning after pill/emergency contraception actually available to the women who need it, when they need it
*to preserve social security
*to get congress to renew VAWA

are you on their email alert lists? I hear from "women's groups" all the time

[wicket]

8. don't know, but this woman is making some noise!

:kick:

[Beaverhausen]

9. so many issues...so little media coverage

http://www.now.org/

[femrap]

25. Same reason we don't hear anything about....

DSM, Grand Jury, etc. The MSM doesn't report it.

Larry Johnson was on Ed Schultz today and said that CNN called him in to review the final cut of 'Dead Wrong.' They wanted to make sure that all 'i's'' were dotted and 't's' were crossed. He asked them why all the fuss? They are totally intimidated by this administration....he said he had never seen anything like it. They wanted to make sure they weren't going to be 'Rathered.'

[boston bean]

27. I wonder why we don't hear from the American men either.....

Not all of them, I know, but the fight women still have to wage in this day and age in America is a long road to hoe.

[jsamuel]

2. amazing

[tofubo]

26. that a founding member of the pnac is u.s. amb. to iraq ??

http://rightweb.irc-online.org/ind/khalilzad/khalilzad.php

FUCK BUSH AND THE HORSE HE CAME WITH LAST NIGHT

[SteppingRazor]

3. In fairness, one should point out that...

Pushing for Islam to be "a primary source" of Iraqi law was actually taking the more womens-rights-friendly side. The other side of that argument was that Islam should be "THE primary source" of Iraqi law.

[northzax]

4. islamic law

that's what your good christian sons and daughter are dying for. nice work.

[Beaverhausen]

10. please someone give this one more vote for greatest page

:hi:

[seabeyond]

11. the right has already flip flopped. womans rights arent needed for

democracy. meet the press yesterday. and all over right wing blogs. still democracy because they CHOSE islamic law

[alarimer]

24. I heard that on Franken this morning

I blew a gasket and screamed at the moron who said it. Not that he could hear me since it was a tape of the show. Those people really do believe tha women are second class citizens.

[Beaverhausen]

12. "women's social rights are not critical to the evolution of democracy."

Reuel M. Gerecht on Meet the Press 8/21/05:


"If Iraqis could develop a democracy that resembled America in the 1900s, I think we'd all be thrilled. I mean, women's social rights are not critical to the evolution of democracy. We hope they're there. I think they will be there. But I think we need to put this into perspective."

[Iris]

16. "women's social rights"

as opposed to what other rights?

[izzybeans]

13. This is an important read on this subject re: women's rights and islamic

law

check the link inside the link.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=4421997

It's helpful to remember we are critiquing the president and his "men" and not the Iraqi's struggling to come to grips with this American "man" made problem. Blaming Islam is not the route we would want to take, even if its a only a subtheme of the critique.

[cthrumatrix]

14. it points to the "unknowns and lack of planning" of their invasion

Isalmic laws were the last things that neocons shared as a

consequence of the invasion...many here on DU brought up the

potential for "civil war" to occur...looks like DU'ers were right.

shrubbie is a puppet...not a leader.

[izzybeans]

15. true, but I thought we were talking about women's rights in

a "new" democracy with a primary source in Islamic Law. I guess my comment was too narrow of a suggestion.:shrug:

[cthrumatrix]

17. IMHO shrubbie does not care about "womens rights or mens rights"

the above quotes are more "doublespeak" while actions speak much louder.

[izzybeans]

18. Yep nt

[orleans]

31. agree. n/t

[Az_lefty]

19. George W. Bush...spreading theocracy throughout the World!

[upsidedownaussie]

20. quote of the week:

EDIT: Beaverhausen wins. Sorry about the redundancy.


don't know who caught meet the press this sunday, but there was this doozy from Reuel Marc Gerecht, fellow of the american enterprise insitute and PNAC stooge:

"I mean, women's social rights are not critical to the evolution of democracy. We hope they're there. I think they will be there. But I think we need to put this into perspective."


freedom's on the march.

yeah.



transcript here:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8926876/


UDA

[Kool Kitty]

28. ",,,we need to put this into prospective..."

What prospective would this son of a bitch like it put into? Just imagine the hysteria that would ensue were the word "men" put in place of "women" in this statement. Oh, the humanity.....

[mom cat]

21. Flip Flop....or just plain flop!

[nadinbrzezinski]

22. Women's rights are nice in theory

but they get in the way of profit

[cthrumatrix]

23. that is a true bush slogan

[MiniMe]

29. Congrats George, you took a secular gov't and turned it into....

an Islamic state.

[Warren DeMontague]

30. BREAKING: White House Full Of Shit. Film At 11:00

And at 11:01. And at 11:02.. and 11:03... etc. etc. etc.