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Mon Aug-22-05 06:38 PM
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Collen Rowley kicking ass on Hardball |
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She smacked down Nora O'D who is moderating and now Mark Williams, the wingnut from the "You Don't Speak For Me Cindy," tour. He's blathering and Coleen speaks plain truth. She pointed out that she, herself, cautioned against war before the war. And also that Williams is typical of those who stop us from having an honest debate about going to war in Iraq. He's being nothing but a loudmouth. Nora is even saying that he's out of line. This is a great segment to catch on rerun.
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Mon Aug-22-05 06:39 PM
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I'll check it later tonight....sounds like Must-See TV
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Mon Aug-22-05 06:40 PM
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2. This Mark Williams is an asshole. He is a total jerkfuck. |
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Mon Aug-22-05 06:42 PM
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3. He's the perfect example of shutting down discussion |
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Edited on Mon Aug-22-05 06:42 PM by eleny
smacking the table he's sitting at and being so overbearing that Nora has even had it with him.
Oh my god! He just said that Coleen was "doing nothing but flapping her jowls on tv".
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Mon Aug-22-05 06:45 PM
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6. He started off talking about Colleen "pontificating"...he |
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pontificated more than the Pope (aka Supreme Pontiff)...he got so worked up I thought that he was going to have a stroke!
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Mon Aug-22-05 07:04 PM
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25. Mark said Coleen was just 'flapping her jowls"--what a puck head and |
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norah just let the demeaning crapola go on and on.
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Mon Aug-22-05 06:46 PM
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9. I wish Colleen wasn't such a class act, and was more forceful with him. |
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Edited on Mon Aug-22-05 06:48 PM by OmmmSweetOmmm
I don't think she was kicking ass if you view it objectively. She could have said that all of those who voted for the war were LIED TO! Mentioning the DSM as being undisputed FACT. That we helped Saddam fill those mass graves and or turned a blind eye. Also, some of those mass graves were Iraq soldiers who died during both in the Gulf War and the war with Iran. Why isn't anyone screaming this from the rooftops..and the torture.... Two words... Abu Ghraib.
The Iraq Constitution.. ISLAMIC REPUBLIC!!!!
She could have used all of these points.
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Mon Aug-22-05 06:43 PM
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4. Did you catch his last line? "We're not supporting the war, we're |
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supporting our troops" :wtf:
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Mon Aug-22-05 06:45 PM
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7. Yes, and that struck me as an odd answer n/t |
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Mon Aug-22-05 06:46 PM
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10. Was hoping Rowley would say, "You're not supporting the troops. |
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Mon Aug-22-05 06:54 PM
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19. What a great comeback!!! |
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I'm going to remember that one! Thaks! Can I put it on a digital art button for posting here at DU? Pretty please with sprinkles on top?
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Mon Aug-22-05 11:58 PM
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29. Absolutely. I wish everybody |
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Mon Aug-22-05 06:47 PM
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Edited on Mon Aug-22-05 06:50 PM by Catrina
I am so glad America is getting to see these nutcases that we have been seeing online for so long. He is rude, ignorant, loud, called Colleen Rowley 'listen lady' and now says she's 'flapping her jaws'. Nora O'Donnell allowed him to use his hate radio attitude on the air instead of teaching some manners, like the moron he is, by telling him to address Colleen Rowley with respect or she would have to cut his mike.
Still, it's better to let them rant and rave now, on national television. He thinks Iraq is a success because it has a Stock Market!! And he went off on the 'Saddam's woodchippers' a completely debunked story!! He came across like a lunatic, imo. I wish I had taped it so I could send it to my normal Repub. friends. They don't believe these people exist because they don't tune in to hate radio.
One good thing he told us. They don't want to be called 'pro-war'. Well, sorry Mark, but you're PRO-WAR, so live with it, you and your chickenhawk, draft-dodging administration.
Oh, and, your president is now at 36% in the polls!! And Colleen Rowley was wonderful, she kept her cool and was unflappable in the face of his insane diatribe. He looked like a madman about to blow a gasket!! :rofl:
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Mon Aug-22-05 06:58 PM
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Another addition to my profane vocabulary. I'm sure I can find a use for it.....soon.
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Mon Aug-22-05 06:45 PM
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5. Coleen was great; she remained unflappable... |
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...and made him look like an idiot.
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Mon Aug-22-05 06:46 PM
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11. Woops - I misread your posting |
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Edited on Mon Aug-22-05 07:00 PM by eleny
I thought you were talking about Nora! Sorry.
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Mon Aug-22-05 06:46 PM
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8. It is hard for her to get a word in at all with the RW hack spewing |
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crap all over the place.
My take on it wasn't that she kicked ass, she barely got to speak and could hardly make a point without him interrupting and taking over.
He was vile and he controlled the entire segment.
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Mon Aug-22-05 06:47 PM
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14. It's almost a relief to see Pat Buchanan on as a guest now |
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Mon Aug-22-05 06:54 PM
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18. Laughing! And the weird part is that he wasn't against this war before |
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Mon Aug-22-05 07:01 PM
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23. IIRC, Pat Buchanon was against the war from the get go? n/t |
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Mon Aug-22-05 07:03 PM
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Mon Aug-22-05 07:05 PM
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26. IIRC = If I recall correctly n/t |
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Mon Aug-22-05 07:20 PM
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28. Thanks! Yes, he was and wrote extensively about it in articles in |
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American Conservative Magazine. I also remember him talking out against it on tv shows.
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Mon Aug-22-05 06:56 PM
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20. Mark "Numnutz" Williams is on KFBK Sacramento |
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if you'd like to send him a love note.
BTW, KFBK is a Clear Channel station (as if you needed clarification).
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Mon Aug-22-05 07:07 PM
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27. that fits--mark works for a Clear Channel!! I think he was loosing his |
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cookies the more he yelled.
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Mon Aug-22-05 06:47 PM
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Sounds like he did alright last time. Let's see what he does this time.
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Mon Aug-22-05 06:50 PM
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16. Amazing how Rs equate badgering and yelling with truth. |
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Mon Aug-22-05 06:53 PM
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17. I don't know what program you were watching. |
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Rowley hemmed and hawed like there was no tomorrow.
Williams is dumb as a damned post but he sure didn't look to me like he was getting his ass kicked, by Ms. Rowley or anybody.
Williams succeeded by getting his talking points out: Democrats don't support our troops, Democrats don't have an alternative plan for Iraq, et cetera.
Where did Rowley refute those points? She was asked point blank by O'Donnell what the Democratic alternative was. Her response was something along the lines that "Bush is screwing up."
We've tried to win two elections with "Bush is screwing up." It doesn't work.
If we can't get better-prepared Democrats in these debates, why bother having the debates at all?
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Mon Aug-22-05 06:58 PM
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22. When Nora called anti war folks "extremists" |
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Edited on Mon Aug-22-05 06:59 PM by eleny
...Coleen hopped right on it. And she dealt with the wingnut when it was her time to speak. Civility isn't a weakness. Since she has to impress the voters in her home state, I think she did well. I think she appeared more like a person speaking in Congress which is where she hopes to be. She represented herself with dignity and I guess I call that kicking ass - being that I'm originally from NYC. :D
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Mon Aug-22-05 07:03 PM
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24. I just emailed Hardball about this terrible show--how the host fed |
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into Marks comments. said she should leave her biases at home if she wants to play host.
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