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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 04:54 PM
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Pat Robertson and his ilk, gave us Tim McVeigh and Eric Rudolph....
Edited on Tue Aug-23-05 05:15 PM by Joanne98
Pat Robertson, Jerry Falwell, Ralph Reed, James Dobson, Randall Terry and the entire cult followers of the Conservative Christian Movement, have brought terror down on American citizens for the past two decades. If it wasn't for Christian HATE Radio, the people of Oklahoma City would have never been attacked by the homegrown Christian terrorist Tim McVeigh. If it wasn't for the constant stream of "Kill words" blasting from Right Wing Radio from "code talking" American Preachers issuing Fatwas against innocent civilians doing nothing more than living in freedom according to US law, Eric Rudolph would never have felt he had the right to murder people in cold blood.
Anybody who has listened to Christian radio for any amount of time knows that they call out for the blood of their enemies, day after day after day. I know. I listened to them for an entire year. Three hours a day, five days an week. The American Mullahs of the Christian Right use the Bible as a weapon just like Bin Laden and Al Queda use the Koran to incite suicide bombers.
You're going to hear alot BS about "free speech" coming from the right, but praying for things like the death of Supreme Court Justices on TV or suggesting someone should nuke the State Department is nothing of the sort. Whipping fanaticle Christians up into a death chanting frenzy is worst than yelling fire in a crowded theatre, it's inciting lunatics to violence.
President Hugo Chavez won his last election fair and square, which is more than you can say for the Dictator George Bush. The majority of Venezulans LIKE the job he's doing cleaning up "Right-Wing Corruption which is why he's so hated by people like "Fat Pat". Criminals hate it when honest men fight crime and win. It's not a mystery why some people might be upset.
The fact that Pat Robertson has called for the assassination of Hugo Chavez isn't news. What's news is that he did it in English instead of Christian "Code Talking". Pat doesn't make these kind of mistakes. His guardian angel must have been taking a cigerette break when this happened.
Hugo Chavez has every right to take this threat seriously. Thanks to Harpers Magazine and it's "Jesus Plus Nothing" article, we know of the existance of "The Family", the "Fellowship" or the POD PEOPLE, whatever you want to call them. They exist and they have friends in Venezuela. In light of this fact Chavez has every right to arrest any associates of Pat Robertson and his shadowy family. He has the right to arrest them, interrogate them and hold them in custody until he's sure the TERROR THREAT is passed.
Mr Chavez has the right, if not the DUTY, to keep himself and the people of Venezuela safe from RELIGIOUS TERRORISTS whether they're Islamic, Christian or otherwise and I for one, hope he does. I really do.
Do what you have to do Mr Chavez. You got my blessing for sure.
Joanne98
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 04:56 PM
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1. Excellent post, Joanne
spot on :thumbsup:
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 05:25 PM
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14. Thankyou. I'm a big fan of yours btw.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 05:32 PM
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16. awwww
you made my day :hug:

right back atcha :D
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 04:57 PM
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2. Can I hear an
AMEN! Sister Joanne!

I canNOT reconcile the preaching of hate with what Jesus said. How can they make their minds twist that way?
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 04:57 PM
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3. What exactly is "ilk".
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 05:01 PM
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5. a similar thing. a fellow fundie....etc...
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 05:01 PM
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6. Nefarious cronies (n/t)
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 05:01 PM
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I don't think "ilk" is all that bad. We need a bad kind of "ilk" word here
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King Coal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 05:03 PM
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8. Those fuckin' ilks!
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 05:08 PM
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11. Bad bad ilks! LOL
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rkc3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 05:01 PM
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7. It's like milk, only fewer carbs.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 05:01 PM
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4. Quite True, Ma'am
The drum-beat of hate and incitement to murder from this source is one of the greatest problems facing our political and social life today. There is no doubt whatever it serves to incite real violence by the followers of these reptiles, and more broadly, to innure their followers to the view that those declared their enemies are to be viewed as inhuman objects that must be removed somehow....
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 05:03 PM
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9. Excellent post Joanne98.
May I suggest some paragraph breaks in order to make reading it a bit easier. :)
I think I'll bookmark it for future reference. :kick:
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 05:03 PM
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10. Yah! Extradite Robertson to Venezuela
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newswolf56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 05:09 PM
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12. As Joanne says, Chavez should take this threat very seriously.
The connection between fascism and Christianity is the connection between father and son: think Inquisition, Fascist Spain, the church/oligarchy/death-squad connection in Central and South America. Indeed I believe Robertson's remarks are a signal to right-wing clerics throughout Venezuela, Catholic and Protestant alike.

(Yes, I understand there are liberal forces within Christianity too, but the establishment Church is always solidly on the side of the fascists -- whether in Latin America today or Franco's Spain of yesteryear.)
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 05:32 PM
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17. I hope that "real" Christians condem Robertson. It's their chance to
distance themselves from the fanatics.
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 05:10 PM
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13. Kick.
n/t
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Talismom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 05:27 PM
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15. You are so right! His hateful diatribes recruit terrorists as
Edited on Tue Aug-23-05 05:29 PM by Talismom
well as any middle-east group. He's a hate-monger and deserves to die a violent death as much as anyone!
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 05:36 PM
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18. Outstanding Post. May I Have Permission To Post It On Another Forum?
please?
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 06:54 PM
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24. Yes. Post it everywhere. I hope it gives the freepers heartburn.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 05:40 PM
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19. Jesse Jackson says that the FCC should go after Pat for his "dangerous"
comments. Jesse said that and more on CNN's Lou Dobbs show.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 06:52 PM
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23. He's right. He spends half his time threatening "liberals" I'm sick of it.
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 05:52 PM
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20. whats the deal with POD people? didn't catch the Harpers article. eom
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 06:48 PM
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22. Here it is. It's in there somewhere.
http://www.harpers.org/JesusPlusNothing.html?pg=1

This is a very important article. Nobody knew how bad it was before this came out. Notice the DEM members. We need to clean our party out.
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WhoWantsToBeOccupied Donating Member (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 08:35 PM
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28. Read this! And visit www.theocracywatch.org (at Cornell University)!
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:23 AM
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29. oh! i read that article and actually worked for a company headed by
on of these types. he cut his teeth at disney which has a lot of the same weirdness.

i was wondering about POD people -- but i think i got it now. invasion of the body snatchers.

when are the triffids coming?
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LincolnMcGrath Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 06:00 PM
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21. Another offender right here. Nice to know they get to do this tax free!
Edited on Tue Aug-23-05 06:05 PM by LincolnMcGrath
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bluetuesday Donating Member (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 07:13 PM
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25. "pat robertson and his ilk,gave us tim mcveigh and eric rudolph
This is my first visit to this forum.I just want to let Joanne
That I feel the same.Whatever happened to the Christian message
of love and tolerance? It's time for the Rev Robertson to
hang it up and take up shuffleboard~
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Orrin_73 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 08:15 PM
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26. welcome to DU bluetuesday
:toast: :toast:
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tlsmith1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-23-05 08:24 PM
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27. Terrorists Aren't Just Islamic
They can be Christian, too. Good for Chavez. I wish they would round them up here too, but as long as Bush is President it won't happen. And that goes against the War on Terror. If we want to get the terrorists, we cannot only go after the Muslim ones.

Tammy
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