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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:05 AM
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Universities and the War on Terror--CSPAN
Rob reading portion of an editorial where someone (didn't catch who) is stating that universities by their very nature make them susceptible to being used by terrorists to recruit and for cover. Will have a call in session. I find this chilling.

Didn't catch where the article was from so if someone knows please advise and post link.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:09 AM
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1. the "war on terror" has come to the universities
visa restrictions are making it hard for foriegn students to study here. spreading ignorance throughout the world, that's us.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:10 AM
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2. It's CSPAN pandering to the Moonie Washington Times, again.
Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 08:11 AM by TahitiNut
That editorialist (John Quelch) probably likes Bob Jones University. :shrug:
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:12 AM
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3. Yeah its well educated and informed people
that mostly become religious extremists :sarcasm:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:18 AM
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4. a few callers have branded all Profs/Universities as Leftes. nothing
new with these comments.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:23 AM
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7. Where do these people get the idea that
dissent during the Vietnam war era stopped us from winning that war? We were getting our butts handed to us on a daily basis there. Protests began only AFTER much slaughter.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:29 AM
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11. Joan Bias said that it was not Nixion that got us out of 'Nam, -it was the
anti-war movements. Heard her say this at the Camp Casey vigil last weekend (re-peat stream last evening from Bradblog).
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:49 AM
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13. Did you hear the wingnut who praised Hillsdale...
as an example of a proper college? Isn't that the place where the founder or president of the college was sleeping with his daughter-in-law, and when she couldn't get him to stop, she killed herself? Typical RW holier-than-thou attitudes.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:55 AM
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14. Yep. You have a good memory. (Hillsdale is a septic tank.)
Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 08:58 AM by TahitiNut
In November, another right-wing wolf cloaked in family values sheepskin was unzipped to the American public. George Roche III resigned as president of conservative Hillsdale College in Michigan after accusations of a quasi-incestuous relationship with his daughter-in-law, Lissa.

On the morning of Oct. 17, 42-year-old Lissa and her husband, George Roche IV, visited the 64-year-old Roche at the hospital, where he was undergoing treatment for diabetes. With her husband and father-in-law as witnesses, Lissa claimed that she and the elder Roche had been off-and-on lovers for 19 of the 21 years she and her husband had been married. Lissa returned to her campus house after the confession and armed herself with a .38-caliber handgun. She walked out of her backyard and through the college's arboretum to a stone gazebo, a secluded location where students once went to relax, guzzle a few beers or liaise with members of the opposite sex. There, Lissa ended her life.
http://www.salon.com/books/it/2000/01/19/hillsdale/print.html

There’s nothing like suicide to make a point. Lissa Roche could have shot herself in the head in the living room of her house, which is where she got the gun which eventually killed her. Instead, she left the house by the back door and, crossing its back yard, entered the arboretum which the Hillsdale College students had created, according to the PR material which Lissa herself supervised, for the college’s alumni as a place of peace and meditation. It was there at the gazebo with the scriptural passage from Paul warning about drunkenness and fornication that she killed herself, making in the process a statement about the college which the world could not ignore. The location was significant. “I have performed many marriages there,” said one Hillsdale professor who is also a minister. He then added with a smirk, “Students who want to screw go there too.”
http://www.culturewars.com/CultureWars/2000/January/hillsdale.html
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:06 AM
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15. The rot seems to extend to the faculty
:puke:
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Rich Hunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:24 AM
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9. not all terrorists...
Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 08:24 AM by Rich Hunt
are religious extremists. Not to nitpick, however.

Then again, not all terrorists are immigrants, either.

What on earth do they mean when they say "by their very nature"?
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:21 AM
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5. Its all a part of Hugo Chavez's plot to unite commies and islamists.
We all know Universities are full of communists, obviously they will use them as a forward base when the commie-islamist radicals storm US cities and towns to beat the freedom out of good God-fearing Americans.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:22 AM
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6. I think the Right is very scared that the anti-war movement will move to
University campuses as they open after Labor Day.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:24 AM
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8. but I wonder --as so many Right organizations have popped up on
campuses.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:27 AM
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10. it is the 40 year anniver. of U-WI-Madison -chemistry building was
blown up. There is a new exhibit on campus that opens today--and it equates the bombers with the word 'terrorist' now. This is a new application of the word.
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K-W Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 08:34 AM
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12. That doesnt seem accurate.
Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 08:35 AM by K-W
Ive never read about it before, but the bombing looks like sabotage, not terrorism from the info Im looking at.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 12:26 PM
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16. reviving more of COINTELPRO... fascism on the goose-step n/t
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