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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:36 PM
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Is this the next right wing attack on the anti-war movment?
I occassionally troll around on the wingnut side to sniff out the next new line of shite. I found this. It pretty much claims that they have footage of anti-war protestors "harrassing" wounded soldiers at Walter Reed. Of course the video is "coming" which means it's being either filmed as we speak or heavily edited, or both. Anyone know of any demonstrations there that may be spun like this?

http://www.drudgereport.com/flash7.htm
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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:39 PM
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1. Someone should film Phelps and his cronies
protesting a military funeral and say "well, this is one of YOURS, isn't he?"

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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:46 PM
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8. Actually I think someone made a documentary
I can't make heads or tails of it. I'm not sure if its pro or con Fred Phelps. I'm pretty sure its con, but either way he's too disgusting to even be worth the effort to find out.

http://www.hatemongers.com/buyit.html
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JamesTee Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:47 PM
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9. Fuck Matt Drudge and his smelly hat
Edited on Wed Aug-24-05 09:48 PM by JamesTee
Does he know he's ripping of Walter Winchell's act?
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riverwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:40 PM
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2. well
I Googled for news reports for Walter Reed, and there is NOTHING. So it means Rove & Co. are busily fabricating something to spread around.
So the next time I check, there will be a million stories about the non-story spread by Drudge. That's what he did with Kerry intern "story".
Don't feed the monkey. He is irrelevant now.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:44 PM
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6. I'm thinking its one of Drudge's famous put out some bullshit and
pull it once enough rightwing cyber attack dogs see it. To sort of keep them in marching order. He'll probably pull it when the video never materializes.
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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:40 PM
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If true, we'll condemn it
It's not the warriors fault, but those who sent them there.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:50 PM
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12. That's why no serious participant of the anti-war movement would
do such a thing. I'm thinking they are splicing footage.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:40 PM
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3. From the Drudge report?
'Nuff said. Matt Drudge is nothing but a rightwing hellhound. Fuck him and the rest of Bush's gatekeepers.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:42 PM
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5. that's the point...I just thought I'd spread the word so no one was
blind sided. see my post directly above yours.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:41 PM
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4. of course the "Cybercast news network" formerly Conservative
news Network actually doesn't even show this as a story on their website. Drudge is wishing hopefully I guess.

This propaganda outlet is also formerly partners with whatever the fuck the organization that everybody's favorite conservative top or Bulldog worked for before he and Bush got caught making eyes in the white house press room.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:45 PM
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7. How hard would it be?
Hire a few goons, dress them up, and have them go spit on graves and wounded soldiers. Film at 10...
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:47 PM
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10. Isn't that what "Move America Forward" is doing? I don't doubt
that you are right.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 09:48 PM
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11. Yep, a couple hundred bucks and voila!
:grr:
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:04 PM
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13. it's the old provocateur crap
They hire a bunch of dorks to pose as anti-war protesters, send them out to do something stupid. Bang. They now have an excuse to send out death squads after anti-war protesters.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:13 PM
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15. One line if defense
Hop they were sloppy and the protesters can be identified. Like the guy who grabbed a little girl's pro-Bush sign last year and just happened to resemble her uncle.


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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:15 PM
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16. that's part of why it's happening so far away
They don't want independent cameras. They'll make sure the shots never catch anyone's face close up enough to identify them or catch nothing but the backs of their heads.
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Zenlitened Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:12 PM
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14. What is drudge's track record lately, anyway? We see a lot of his...
... breathless predictions here on DU. Has anyone been tracking whether any of it turns out to have a shred of accuracy or truth?

:shrug:
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:18 PM
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17. Well he's track record is counted by how quickly he can get people
at places like the freakrepublic or the site who shall not be named to start spinning his little webs for him. This thread's already made it there and some "newbie" is already cherrypicking quotations to make it sound like duers advocate such things. When every comment in this thread has been the exact opposite of that.

So your assessment's dead on.
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Donailin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:22 PM
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18. If anyone needs to be
assasinated. . . er kidnapped. . er. . . hacked into. . .it's DRUDGE. That bastard is a war profiteer as far as I'm concerned.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:27 PM
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19. Why are we linking to Drudge here?
Is it really that hard to wait until a credible journalist posts factual statements?
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:32 PM
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20. uhhmmm did you read my op? or any of the rest of the thread?
If someone is spreading lies wouldn't you like to know before it gets to a "credible journalist"?
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:35 PM
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21. Well, that's pretty much all Drudge does.
I don't see how knowing about it helps. People who get their news from Drudge are a lost cause already.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:38 PM
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22. I just posted it so people weren't blind sided by it when/if someone
happened to start repeating it.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:46 PM
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23. But it's not really blindsiding if it's from Drudge.
e.g.:

Freeper: <insert idiotic Drudge rumor here>

3 digit IQer: Oh, really. Where'd you hear that?

Freeper: Read it at Matt Drudge's website.

3 digit IQer: Nice. Now fuck off with that bullshit until it's reported by somebody with a better track record for accuracy.
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izzybeans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-24-05 10:59 PM
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24. I do agree but if this hypothesis about whisper campaigns is correct
then when whatever shit they throw happens to stick I'd like to have given thought to my response. In about two minutes of me posting this thread someone at the "other site" already posted a thread trying to spin a post from here as supporting it. When that happens I start thinking that the whisper campaign thesis is pretty close to the mark. It doesn't matter if its Drudge or not, he'll probably pull the posting once enough minions have ran away believing it.

I don't normally even care except the entire post he made had the ominous signs of a desperate smear job.
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