We knew it was coming ... the fundies are going after divorce!

[BattyDem]

(I don't think this was posted, yet. I did a search and nothing came up. Sorry if it's a dupe. :-) )

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Hostettler decries divorce

Rep. John Hostettler told area clergy that divorce on demand is as dangerous as gay marriage, and pastors' actions will be key to strengthening all Indiana families.

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"The picture of marriage is the picture of Christian salvation," said Hostettler, who describes his elected office as a ministry. "Any diminishing of that notion - whether homosexual marriage or any other degradation of marriage - is something we must fight in public policy."

Public policy, he added, that is rooted in Scriptural truth.

"...all public officials - are ordained deacons of God," Hostettler said. He cited the specific reference to civil government in the Bible, and extended the ordination to leaders of all backgrounds.

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If this "movement" takes off, I know a lot of straight people who are going to be very pissed off! They thought it was "fun" when the fundies were going after gay rights, but now it could affect their lives, too. When will people learn that if you stand by and do nothing while one group's rights are taken away, eventually your rights will be targeted as well. :eyes:

[liberaliraqvet26]

1. shouldn't they look in the mirror???

how many of them have been divorced multiple times

[buddysmellgood]

2. This is excellent.

[despairing optimist]

3. First the gays, then the adulterers, and then the fornicators

Look, new housing starts are beginning to falter. What is the brick and stone business going to do with all those bricks and stones? Answer: fundie revolution! If you start stoning all the adulterers and fornicators in the country, you don't have to build as many homes.

Big question: will the fundies pay for these materials with home-equity lines of credit? ;-)

What would Jesus do?

[bumblebee1]

30. Adulterers?

Man, they'll have to clean out the Republican party and most of the right wingers.

[converted_democrat]

33. Now that's funny!!

:spray:

[Midlodemocrat]

34. They should start with Texas

Highest divorce rate in the country.


Massachusetts has the lowest. Those damned librul elitist marriage keepers.

[Fovea]

4. Great.

And while they at it,
they need to attack beer and big trucks.

[Zenlitened]

5. "All public officials are ordained deacons of god." Jesus motherfucker.

It just gets scarier by the minute. These fundie freaks are feeling totally bold these days. :grr:

[Bluerthanblue]

29. Except when their last name

is Clinton.
I argued myself blue in the face pointing out that inconsistency with several fundies. The notion that 'god' puts all authority 'in place' goes COMPLETELY against the notion of 'free-will'. Unless we are all puppets being played by cosmic sadists.

[Erika]

6. The religious right think they have more support than they do

and are pushing all kind of fundamentalist extremist views. I hope this situation is broadcast as widely as possible.

Their idol, Ronald Reagan was a divorcee.

[SammyWinstonJack]

7. Why don't they MIND their own damn business?

Self righteous nutjobs!

[Arkana]

8. This won't even get off the ground.

There isn't anything in the Bible (at least not to my limited knowledge) that says "Thou shalt make it work, dammit."

[eallen]

11. Jesus forbade divorce and remarriage, except when your wife cheats.

It's in the Bible.

Don't blame me. I'm not Christian, and I think it's pretty crazy, myself.

:hippie:

[tocqueville]

20. correction 4 guys called Apostles wrote about what Jesus

MIGHT have said, because it was 100 years after he died and they never met him.

[eallen]

35. Yes, of course. And when I quote Hamlet, the words were writ by the Bard.

[belle]

27. Well, depends on how you interpret that...

A more subtle reading would be more in line with the consistent theme of Jesus challenging the "scribes and Pharisees" (i.e. the Pat Robertsons of the day) for making a big deal about the letter of the Biblical law while subverting the spirit. "It all starts from the inside," and so on. If one were inclined to be generous or (dare we say it) liberal, one could argue that Jesus was basically saying that *nobody* gets off the hook, you're not as pious as you think you are; and that the point was not so much to encourage people to be even *more* rigorous about formulaic "thou-shalt-nots," but to just have some empathy for your fellow flawed creatures, and tend to your own shortcomings rather than running around all self-righteously after everyone else.

Of course, it ended up being just the opposite for most major denominations, but there you go.

[steve2470]

9. Don't these people have some arcane law they need to revise....

instead of trying to FORCE two people who are not compatible to live together ? Geez. This is why I am a LIBERAL Christian.

[katsy]

10. I smell a Schiavo moment here...

so lets back off and let these wackos have their say.

Who knows? Maybe if tax cut voters (the have & have mores of 7 marriages going on 8 types) get a whiff of this, it'll help us in 2006.

[Democrat 4 Ever]

13. Somebody might want to remind them that the first no-fault

divorce law in the country was passed in California and signed by, wait for it.....ol' Ronnie Reagan. (Read somewhere, sorry no link.)

They might want to also take roll and see how many of their "esteemed" colleagues has been divorced - multiple times. And while they are at it they might want to take down the names of their "brethren" that have "significant others" on the side. The hypocrisy of this bunch is astounding.

[Southpaw Bookworm]

37. Why am I not surprised

Considering Ronnie's personal life? Kinda like ol' Henry splitting off from the Catholics so he could marry Anne Boleyn.

[Straight Shooter]

12. In the future Hostettler will be caught being spanked by a dominatrix.

Anyone who wants to suppress people is fighting his own demons. He ought to welcome them into his bedroom once and for all, and stay out of ours. Whatta loser.

[bobbieinok]

14. Richard Roberts (son of Oral) is divorced.....his first wife wrote a book

about the Roberts ministry etc (after the divorce)

I was told by someone who was an ORU student at the time that every student read it when it came out

foreign students who attend ORU, especially from Asia, are very upset that the US pentecostal movement tolerates divorce......in their home churches divorced people are prohibited from holding any position in the church

point of this post: religious right is very hypocritical about divorce

[KitchenWitch]

15. Why is it that conservative fundies have a higher divorce rate

then the "librul elite"?????

[Ilsa]

18. Fundies are usually in the south. Southerners tend to marry younger.

Younger marriages tend to fail more frequently due to financial problems and immaturity. Also, more marriages in the north tend to be Catholic marriages, where getting divorced creates more problems in practicing the faith actively.

But yes! It is true that southern baptists and mormons have pretty high divorce rates.

Frankly, I wouldn't be so offended if they had gone after divorce before going after gay marriage. At least divorce is an issue that affects them.

[tandot]

16. Great! I'll bet Rush, Newt and all the other right-wingers are

completely behind Hostettler.

Considering that those "Christian" Red Staters have as high -- some even higher -- divorce rate than the Blue States ... go ahead ... try to outlaw divorce :evilgrin:

edit for spelling

[bobbieinok]

17. isn't Hostettler an Amish/Mennonite name????

[kestrel91316]

22. Yep, but so is Gingrich ...........................

He's certainly not Amish - they don't hold public office. He could be Mennonite, but they tend to let other folks live as they wish and are not into imposing their beliefs harshly on nonmembers.

Who knows HOW many generations removed from these religions his family is.........

[bobbieinok]

28. Gingrich, really???

[edbermac]

36. And of course the God of the GOP, Ronald Reagan.

[wli]

19. fascism on the goose-step n/t

[deadparrot]

21. I hate to say this, but at least they're being consistent.

Nothing pisses me off more than someone saying that legalizing gay marriage would "ruin the sanctity of marriage" when they say nothing about the divorce rate being sky-high.

[NVMojo]

23. Fundies are perverts who are really obsessed with sex and whether

others are having more fun with it then they are.

[walldude]

24. Crackpot... n/t

[belle]

25. MM, good luck with that, there.

I really hope this guy gets a lot of airtime...there are *way* too many "protect the sanctity of marriage" folks who've had two or three of them themselves...

[Triana]

26. One word: TALIBAN (n/t)

[undergroundpanther]

31. second word MOONIES

[Rabrrrrrr]

32. HA HA! They should start in their own homes - the fundies divorce MORE

than anyone else in the country.

The Christian rightists - those who claim to be evangelical, pentecostal, or fundamentalist - have the highest divorce rate in the nation.

Hypocritical fucknobs.