Where does your state rank for "smarts"?

[Koyaanisqatsi]

Found this on Rachel Maddow's blog:

http://www.morganquitno.com/edrank.htm

:)

[meegbear]

1. Massachusetts is #1!

WE'RE NUMBER ONE! WE'RE NUMBER ONE! WE'RE NUMBER ONE!
:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

[calico1]

5. Connecticut ranks #2.

So we are almost as smart as Mass. :D

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[DS1]

71. umm, duh!

Did you even have to look? :D :hi:

[katinmn]

78. Waaaaah! Minnesota and Mass used to tie for most progressive state

Used to be we were best in education, health care, public services and innovation.

I hate the Repugs that have invaded! :rant:

[MissMillie]

98. We rank #1

Sweet deal.

[noahmijo]

2. Arizona at 48

No surprise there.

[tx_dem41]

7. Current state Texas (33)......home state Louisiana 46th.

I bet it was higher before * was Governor.

As for my home state, I received a wonderful public school education there.

[flying_wahini]

30. texas just can't be 33 - don't believe my neighbors are that

smart...... sorry but i had a terrible education -
from Fort Worth......(but I came from California)

[tx_dem41]

36. I was lucky to go to a magnet school in New Orleans in high school.

I know Dallas has a good magnet school system. Not sure about FW.

[GoSolar]

67. Hi tx_dem41

Is Franklin the school you are referring to?
I went there many years ago.
:)

[tx_dem41]

74. Yes....graduated in the early 80s.

You?

[GoSolar]

89. I graduated in the late 70's.

Did you go to the building on S. Carrollton or was the school moved to UNO's campus by then?

[tx_dem41]

106. S. Carrollton

[Blue_Roses]

52. same here

Home state LA
After college moved to TX and lived there 10 years and now live in
Arkansas. Just can't seem to get out of the south!:shrug:

One day I would love to move to the northeast...

[tx_dem41]

Same here (except for the Arkansas thing).

Born in Shreveport...grew up in New Orleans...college in Houston...18 years in Dallas....GET ME OUTTA HERE!

[Blue_Roses]

66. born in Shreveport too

small world. :D

[Rich Hunt]

3. no surprise

It's no surprise - the east coast states always pat themselves on the back for being more "civilized" than the rest of us.

Don't believe the hype. It's all about class and culture and being from the "right" state.

What a surprise! Massachusetts and Connecticut are #1 and #2, respectively.

Illinois and Michigan deserve to be ranked higher, but they're "not our kind, dear".

[lukasahero]

82. And here I thought the "civil" war had ended... Silly me. eom

[BlueEyedSon]

4. too bad they are not colored blue & red, that would tell ya sumthin

[Mnemosyne]

6. PA 9th.

Then how did scumtorum get elected?:wtf: :silly: :puke:

[SalmonChantedEvening]

8. Number nine, number nine, number nine. n/t

[tech3149]

46. Unfortunately, we're slipping

time to get rid of Santorum and those who want to kill public education.

[SalmonChantedEvening]

53. Pretty sad having someone who makes Toomay look good huh

:argh:

[underpants]

9. Were #Twelfth!! Were #Twelfth!! Were #Twelfth!!

Prolly 'cause Virginia used to have a minute of silence in our schools.

Oh schools in Va. can't open until after LAbor Day so the tourist attractions have someone to work there.

[rw3204]

19. #12, Yeah, right

As a transplant from California, having lived here a couple of years, I seriously doubt it. CA #43, VA #12! No way! Although I may have to rethink it. They do have AHHNULD.

[underpants]

26. SWEET NECTAR OF LIBERTY!!!

SENATOR Allen!!!

:bounce: Welcome to DU :hi:

Allen said it AGAIN on Wednesday January 26th the year of our lord 2005

Condi Rice’s confirmation hearing
1/19/05
http://allen.senate.gov/?c=story&t=press&story=2005011961776.859375

Because of President Reagan's steadfast determination, hundreds of millions of people tasting that sweet nectar of liberty in central Europe are now friends and allies," said Senator Allen.

On the 2004 election
10/10/2004
http://www.vote-smart.org/speech_detail.php?speech_id=69507
Ronald Reagan's election changed the dynamic of the Cold War from one of containment and co-existence to the advancement of freedom. As a result, hundreds of millions of people in Central Europe, once behind the Iron Curtain, now taste the sweet nectar of liberty, have joined NATO, and are true friends and allies.

Senator Allen's Tribute to President Reagan
June 8, 2004
http://www.nrsc.org/nrscweb/newsdesk/articles/401.shtml

But President Reagan believed the blessings of liberty must not be bestowed only on a few nations and only to those blessed to be born on free soil; Ronald Reagan, with the strength of his convictions, exported and advanced democracy to continents, countries, and people yearning to taste the sweet nectar of libert.



GOVERNOR ALLEN SELECTED AS "JEFFERSON SCHOLAR"
August 28, 1998
http://www.alec.org/viewpage.cfm?pgname=3.1aa56

He also pointed to North Korea, China, Iraq, Cuba and other countries where "there are people who have never truly tasted freedom's sweet nectar.

[WoodrowFan]

31. 12?? Must be Northern VA again...

we went from Jefferson, Madison and Monroe to Allen for God's sake!


On the other hand, I suspect this is yet ANOTHER case where Fairfax, Falls Church, Alrington and Alexandria in the north pull the rest of the damn state up...

:hide:

[GoSolar]

68. Yes.

My thoughts exactly!

[jane_pippin]

10. Number Five in smarts from the number 1 party school state.

Go figure. Go Badgers!

[MadisonProgressive]

18. Me too !! That averages us out to a 3!!

[jane_pippin]

37. lol. I like the way you think.

:D

[Poiuyt]

107. Wisconsin is #5? No wonder I are so scholarly

[NYC Liberal]

11. New York at #6

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

49. 6th place is good! n/t

[BurtWorm]

70. Considering how many people read the NY Post

that is pretty good. :thumbsup:

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

92. lol! No kidding! It's really sad when I look back to when it was

an excellent paper. Then Murdoch got his grubby hands on it....

[Sgent]

13. 47th

But this is more a ranking of public school systems. It doesn't take into account post-secondary education at all (not that we would improve). It also doesn't take into account current demographics.

As a ranking of public schools systems, I'm not sure I agree with all of the issues listed, but it isn't too bad.

[tx_dem41]

17. The same holds for my home state of Louisiana....

it also doesn't take into account parochial and private schooling.

BTW, don't knock the universities in your state. They're not bad at all.

[Sgent]

24. I agree

and we probably would come up a bit if they included post-secondary education. As a former resident of Louisiana, our community college system is light years ahead of them and Indiana (only two states I'm familiar with).

As for the signature schools -- Olemiss, MS State, and Southern; Olemiss and MS State have a decent reputation in many fields, but Southern is on academic probation by SACS.

[tx_dem41]

28. I agree on Southern Miss....

My family is from northern Mississippi (Greenville/Delta), so I was mainly talking Ole Miss and State. Wow, I'm saying nice things about ("I Hate") State! I need some coffee. :)

[trof]

14. Wow! Alabama is only a teeny bit dumber than California.

Who knew?
Oh yeah...I forgot...Schwartzenegger.

[smoogatz]

23. Prop 13 killed California's schools.

Plus, the LA County school district is huge, but incredibly terrible.

[ultraist]

29. Alabama ranks 45th for percentage who hold Bachelor's or higher

http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/GRTTable?_bm=y&-geo_id=04000US37&-_box_head_nbr=R02&-ds_name=ACS_2003_EST_G00_&-_lang=en&-format=US-30&-_sse=on

Alabama also has the highest illiteracy rate of any state.

[trof]

40. I guess that makes me stupid.

:shrug:

[Blue_Roses]

56. LOL

Don't feel alone...my home state is #46 (LA) the state I moved to after college is #33 (TX) and the state I reside in now is #36 (AR). I guess I'm stupid too since I continue to live in this hot god-forsaking south!

;)

[SoCalDem]

35. It was REAGAN...and Deukmajian..and Wilson

a steady stream of "reformers" who undercut education out here.. Do you younger folks realize that until the 70's, a college education was virtually FREE for California residents??

A girl I knew in Indiana moved out here to live with her sister so she could be a resident and go to college for free..She did her junior & senior year of high school out here, free college, and stayed here.. The rest of the family followed..

[karynnj]

47. In the 70s

Indiana had low in-state tuition that was covered completely by the Hoosier scholarship if your family had need and you had a B average and decent SATs (about 1100 combined I think). Four siblings and I went to either Indiana or Purdue with full tuition scholarships.

[SoCalDem]

62. She actually wanted to live with her sister anyway

and california's weather is waaaaay better than Indiana:evilgrin:

[Ladyhawk]

86. Us Kah-lee-foh-nee-ahns is stewpid, 'parently. :D n/t

[Ladyhawk]

87. My edumacation cost a mint. n/t

[OhioChick]

#20 Here, BUT

getting wiser........

[Suziq]

15. New Jersey

#5! :woohoo:

[alkaline9]

59. actually NJ is #4 ... nt

[Suziq]

90. Well, I Just Knocked it Down . . .

to #5 because obviously I cannot count. :-)

[ramapodem]

102. Proud to be a jersey boy

Just another reason why I am proud to be a resident of the Garden State! :-)

[deadparrot]

16. 26. nt

[ultraist]

20. They don't even look at college education!

The 21 factors they use are all related to elementary school spending, class size, teacher pay, HS graduation rates, etc.

Ranking by State of Bachelor's degree or higher:

http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/GRTTable?_bm=y&-geo_id=04000US37&-_box_head_nbr=R02&-ds_name=ACS_2003_EST_G00_&-_lang=en&-format=US-30&-_sse=on

WV ranks 33 on the "Smartest State" chart but ranks 51 for percentage of people who hold Bachelor's degrees or higher.

[tx_dem41]

32. Oh cmon.....

its not like Duke and UNC are that great academically. :evilgrin:

[ultraist]

93. LOL! You're right about Duke, it's for stupid people.

In fact, the entire city of Durham is for dummies. Only 41% of the population there holds Bachelor's degrees or higher compared to the nat'l average of 25%. My little neighboring town is at 60%.

We know that all Southerners are ignorant red voters. ;)

[quisp]

21. Dang! Virginia is number 12!

I'd hoped for better but I guess we do have a lot of dumbasses in this state.

[ultraist]

27. Va ranks 6th for percentage of people who hold Bachelor's degrees

or higher.

[MadisonProgressive]

22. I wonder what it would look like if you

sorted the list ascending by rank, and then assigned a red or blue color acording to the 2004 election.

[Zenlitened]

Massachusetts at the top. We do a lot of things right here, frankly.

In many ways, we're an example of what a good liberal society can be.

Which, of course, is why the right-wing constantly goes out of its way to belittle Massachusetts.

They hate us for our freedom. :D

[WoodrowFan]

34. just goes to show

brains and driving skills don't HAVE to go together..

:hide:

[Zenlitened]

41. LOL! Massachusetts drivers take it to a whole new level, don't they?

Although I have to say... I'm seeing a lot of cars with out-of-state plates creating "rolling roadblocks" by camping out in the passing lane.

I had no idea our State Police were deputizing these people to help keep highway speeds down! :banghead:

[calico1]

48. Do you know if the driving skills have anything

to do with why Geico is not available in MA? I recently switched and I am covered in 49 States--not Mass.

[Zenlitened]

57. Hmmmm. I'm not sure. Massachusetts has one of the lowest...

... highway fatality rates, if I'm reading the charts correctly:

http://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/facts/stats2002/index.htm

[calico1]

61. I wonder if its Geico that doesn't want to

insure Mass or if its Mass. that doesn't want Geico there? I couldn't pass it up. I saved $68 over my old insurance for more coverage. I told my DH if we ever have to go to MA we have to take his car.

[Zenlitened]

64. Meh. I don't miss them. Geico's ads are like a fungus, infesting...

... every square inch of the TV spectrum.

They could offer to insure my car for free, and I'd still tell them to get lost, just on principle.

:puke:

[Armstead]

60. Rachael Maddow lives in Massachusetts

She alone adds a few IQ points to make us Numero Uno

[katinmn]

83. And you're so damn humble, too

;-)

Never mind. I'm just a little jealous.

Thanks for holding down the fort while the rest of America is off experimenting with fascism.

[katsy]

25. 39th - fl

but I grew up in CT and I'm moving back SO THERE.

sheeeesh... I wanna put a burka on after reading these stats.

[Lecky]

33. South Carolina #32

I thought we'd be in the 40s so I'm pleasantly surprised :P

[myrna minx]

38. Minnesota is #7.

:bounce:

[MadisonProgressive]

43. HAHA! Wisconsin kicked your ass again!!

(just kidding)

[myrna minx]

44. Hey, I'm from Janesville WI. , so its win-win for me.

:P

[MadisonProgressive]

63. WHOWHOWHOHOOOOO!!

[katinmn]

75. It's all those imbeciles moving into the 'burbs, man

They came here for the "good life" and now they are f****** it all up. They brought with them National Bible Week, intelligent design, and moran values. :puke:

[annabanana]

39. born in #31..

raised in #1, lived in #4 for years, and now reside in #6.

Glad to know I've been hanging around in smart places,

[MemphisTiger]

42. Wahoo 41st here in TN

at least be beat mississippi

[NightHawk63]

103. Amen Tiger (nt)

[Terran]

45. Hmm, this thing is definitely not a good measure of intelligence.

Missouri is at #26, but I know for a fact that this is one of the dumbest states in the union.

:dunce::dunce::dunce:

[supernova]

50. NC 21st

That means we're in the top half.

Hey, in this climate, I'll take it.

[lildreamer316]

84. Tell me about it

I'm suprised; I kinda thought we would be farther down on the list. Guess the colleges are boosting the score.........

[ultraist]

91. 21 is not so bad, esp. if you live in the triangle region

Of course, RDU, pulls up the outlying counties or rather, the rural counties drag down our average.

In my area (Cary), 60% of the population hold Bachelor's degrees or higher. The national average is 25%. I'd much rather live here, than in a rural, uneducated area such as Dansville, NY where only 9% of the population have Bachelor's or higher.

http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/SAFFFacts?_event=Search&geo_id=&_geoContext=&_street=&_county=cary&_cityTown=cary&_state=04000US37&_zip=&_lang=en&_sse=on&pctxt=fph&pgsl=010

http://factfinder.census.gov/servlet/SAFFFacts?_event=ChangeGeoContext&geo_id=06000US3610119675&_geoContext=01000US%7C04000US37%7C16000US3710740&_street=&_county=dansville&_cityTown=dansville&_state=04000US36&_zip=&_lang=en&_sse=on&ActiveGeoDiv=geoSelect&_useEV=&pctxt=fph&pgsl=010

[Hugin]

51. I take personal responsibility for making my state #50.

Daddy always said... "If'n ya can't be the best... Be the
best at bein' th' worst."

;)

It was tough...

I'll have to browse through this north-eastern elitist
ranking and see why it's so biased.

[Hugin]

54. Oh, here's the problem...

Just as I suspected... Right Wing Ranking Bias.

"He also served as Chief Counsel to Senator Dole's 1988 presidential
campaign."

From...

http://www.morganquitno.com/aboutus.htm

[katinmn]

79. LOL!

:7

We all know the country is really purple.:yourock:

[Mich Otter]

55. These rankings are in America, which is how far down the list...

of countries in the world?
Being number one in America is still pretty low compared to other countries.

[sakabatou]

58. #43

[meganmonkey]

65. Mich is #31 - BUT WE BEAT ALL YOUR ASSES

in high unemployment and obesity :shrug:

[katinmn]

76. whoo-hoo, Michigan!

:silly:

I love Michiganers like you. :hi:

[meganmonkey]

80. We may not have an economy, or any hope for the future,

but we still have a sense of humor :)

:hi:

[Cats Against Frist]

69. Woo-hoo IOWA #8

We're not really a red state, you know -- it only went red by 10,000 votes, in a stolen election -- and there are A LOT of freaky religious people here. However, almost all of south eastern Iowa is the promised land -- very blue. Iowa City has, I think, the highest concentration of advanced degrees, per capita, in the nation.

[zanne]

72. NH is 14th. I've been feeling pretty brilliant lately...

And this is proof.

[insanity]

73. 35th

Considering some of the people who live here, its a surprise Oregon isn't lower.

[Mutley]

77. Maryland is 18th.

Could be worse.

[katinmn]

81. That's the spirit!

Do you have roots in Minnesota?

[Mutley]

94. Nope.

Never been there.

[Brightmore]

85. Washington at 30

I thought we would do better. :shrug:

[atommom]

88. Kansas is 15? I'm a little bit stunned.

It's good ammunition against the Kansas-bashers, though... ;)

[KamaAina]

95. 42. Frickin' baboozes.

Of course if we could cut the size of the Legislature in half, we would instantly rocket up into the mid-20s... :P

[Lorien]

96. Colder states are smarter?

with the exception of Alaska, it seems like the warmer the state, the lower the IQ!

My state (Florida) is 39th-no surprise there!

[MemphisTiger]

104. Those crazy blue states with their...

books, what a novel idea

[youthere]

97. We're eighth (Iowa).

[MissMillie]

99. I'd love to see this w/ the red state v. blue state comparison

wouldn't you?

[ArkDem]

100. I wasn't aware that states could think....

[leftofthedial]

101. we are not to smart

but also not to stoopud

[johnaries]

105. Hmmm, comparing this to the Red and Blue States in 2004,

The average smart ranking for Kerry States was 4.53
The average ranking for Bush states is......

-3.74
Yes, that's right MINUS 3.74!
HA!