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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 09:35 AM
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A Lot Of Republicans Are Chewing On These Words Today
"The reporters who did not file a story and promised, or given assurance to these individuals that they would be protected, they need to come forward. To hear bob Novak parsing words like a Clinton lawyer defining sex is outrageous. Sure, they didn't call him, he called them but they volunteered the information. They took the initiative to divulge the CIA officer's name. And that is outrageous."

"Let's be very clear about what happened. This is not an alleged abuse. This is a confirmed abuse. I worked with this woman. She started training with me. She has been undercover for three decades, she is not as Bob Novak suggested a CIA analyst. But given that, I was a CIA analyst for four years. I was undercover. I could not divulge to my family outside of my wife that I worked for the Central Intelligence Agency until I left the agency on September 30, 1989. At that point I could admit it."

"So the fact that she's been undercover for three decades and that has been divulged is outrageous because she was put undercover for certain reasons. One, she works in an area where people she meets with overseas could be compromised. When you start tracing back who she met with, even people who innocently met with her, who are not involved in CIA operations, could be compromised. For these journalists to argue that this is no big deal and if I hear another Republican operative suggesting that well, this was just an analyst fine, let them go undercover. Let's put them overseas and let's out them and then see how they like it. They won't be able to stand the heat."

"I say this as a registered Republican. I'm on record giving contributions to the George Bush campaign. This is not about partisan politics. This is about a betrayal, a political smear of an individual with no relevance to the story. Publishing her name in that story added nothing to it. His entire intent was correctly as Ambassador Wilson noted: to intimidate, to suggest that there was some impropriety that somehow his wife was in a decision making position to influence his ability to go over and savage a stupid policy, an erroneous policy and frankly, what was a false policy of suggesting that there were nuclear material in Iraq that required this war. This was about a political attack. To pretend that it's something else and to get into this parsing of words, I tell you, it sickens me to be a Republican to see this."

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/media/july-dec03/leaks_09-30.html
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robbedvoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 09:38 AM
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1. How about the RNC's chair words:

Hardball (MSNBC - 9/30/03):

CHRIS MATTHEWS:  Don't you think it's more serious than Watergate, when
you think about it?

RNC CHAIRMAN ED GILLESPIE:  I think if the allegation is true, to reveal
the identity of an undercover CIA operative -- it's abhorrent, and it
should be a crime, and it is a crime.

CHRIS MATTHEWS:  It'd be worse than Watergate, wouldn't it?

GILLESPIE:  It's -- Yeah, I suppose in terms of the real world
implications of it.  It's not just politics.


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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 09:45 AM
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5. Maybe Gillespie should reconsider that fundraising letter he sent out
the other day. You know, the one where he blames Democrats for everything bad under the son?
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 10:17 AM
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13. LOL, Art!
Although I don't think you meant it, the mispelling of son actually works in your post!

Everything bad under the son (George W. Bush!).

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Brewman_Jax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 09:43 AM
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2. Not only those words
The cheerleaders for Bush I know aren't singing his praises anymore. They actually look embarrassed when I hit 'em with facts. The Iraq invasion is a sore spot 'cause they know the money to pay for that is coming out of their pockets. They know that their jobs aren't safe. They're very slowly coming out of their stupor (I say slowly because they can't take so much reality at one time.) and they don't like what they see.

If they really piss me off, I tell them, "Welcome to the hell that you helped create." :nopity:
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 09:44 AM
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3. Nice piece - thanks for the post.
BTW, for others reading this, the above quotes are from Larry Johnson, a former CIA analyst and counterterrorism official at the State Department.
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 09:49 AM
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6. Ah....
Thanks for pointing that out. Durrr. :D
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 10:01 AM
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10. :-)
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 09:44 AM
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4. Amb. Wilson On 'Nightline' Last Night
Said reporters had told him directly Rove had told them his wife "was fair game." He is more than willing to tell investigators who they are.

This thing is not going to go away.

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 09:57 AM
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7. Greetings Sir ....
Damn .. I missed that Nightline lasy night, and I REALLY wanted to stay awake for that .....

This story is amazing on so many levels, from revealing the crass politicization of war aims to the philandering nature of sycophantish reporters ....

Rove should pay for his crime ....

And Novak, who apparently feels he hasnt done any wrong: Novak should be marginalized by his obvious desire to trumpet GOP propaganda, irrespective of the honesty of the story, nor of the impact on the real world .....

This was an excellent exchange on PBS, and hopefully more Republicans like Larry Johnson will come out of their shells and reveal their digust of the Rove political machine ....
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 10:06 AM
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11. Amb. Wilson, My Friend
Was most impressive, and clearly in a cold and precise rage. Just as any of us might be, if the life of our spouse had been put at risk by such treachery.

His performance left me in no doubt there are serious forces in the Agency itself out for blood in this matter.
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 09:58 AM
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8. Sharing these names with the FBI......
is, imho, one of the CIA's "ducks in a row." It looks to me like Wilson & the CIA already know there are journalists who are willing to spill the beans.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 09:59 AM
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9. Rove Does the Perp Walk
oh please, oh please, oh please!!!

Let there be justice in the world and let that justice manifest itself with Karl Rove being charged with treason and then let Chimp pardon him and suffer the consequences of allowing a traitor to walk free.
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RandomUser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 10:17 AM
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12. Heads should roll
Here's another reason, a quote also from the PBS interview with the ex-cia guy:

"We saw this in the 70s with Marchetti and others and Philip Agee who outed officers and they were killed"


That's right, people may start dying. Anyone who met with her is under mortal danger.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 10:26 AM
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14. the schoolyard bully
picked on the principal's kid this time.

They'll skate. Somehow or another this will evaporate like all the other crimes they have committed. Rove will use this to "innoculate" the WH against all charges of treason (and worse is likely to come).
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