uh oh white supremacists planning on going to Crawford

[proud2BlibKansan]

Stormfronters' Rally In Crawford, TX
On Saturday & Sunday Aug. 27 & 28


I'm driving out to Crawford, Texas tomorrow, Friday August 26th to help put up a White Nationalist voice in the protest against Bush's War for Israel that was started by Cindy Sheehan.

We'll be uploading digital photos, and maybe video, from Crawford so that Stormfront's 58,000 Members (achieved today) and hundreds of thousands of Guests can follow the events in Crawford from a White patriot perspective.

If you live anywhere within a driving distance that won't put you out too much, would you please join us on Saturday and Sunday? That's August 27th and 28th.

The facilities at the Crawford Ranch Camp Casey are excellent: good food, shade, tents, water, toilets, parking, and all basic necessities are there in ample supply. Most supplies are free. All you need to bring is yourself, a good shade hat, and a long-sleeved shirt.

I'll put up maps to Crawford and sign-making ideas in this thread. Please add your ideas.

Our purpose in journeying to the Crawford protest against Bush's Neocon War for Israel is to:


Let The World Know That White Patriots
Were First & Loudest To Protest This War For Israel


We don't want leftist Johnny-come-latelys who are misleadingly protesting this war as if the war is about oil (not true), or as if it's right-wing patriots who launched this war (not true) to hijack the issue from us.

We want to challenge these leftists with the fact that their leftist leaders, like Hillary Clinton, are on the same War for Israel team as the cowardly Republicans who have been bought and paid for in the Senate, House, White House, and Media by the Jewish Neocon political machine.

Please PM me if you can come on Saturday or Sunday. Please phone me too: Jamie Kelso at xxx-xxx-xxxx. I'll be answering the phone around the clock, so call at any hour.

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?p=2119672&posted=1

[Not_Giving_Up]

1. Oh...this...is...NOT...good

These people are planning to mooch off of the supplies at Camp Casey? These people are going there to say "We were against the war because we're racists long before this party started!"

I'm going up on Saturday morning. I hope this does not get ugly.

[electropop]

118. EEEEWWwwwww!

Not in our names!

[geckosfeet]

2. What rock did this crawl out from under? n/t

[proud2BlibKansan]

20. Found it on a conservative message board

and checked out the link to make sure.

[geckosfeet]

93. Oh. Normally I avoid those board/sites unless I feel like gagging. n/t

[Cha]

159. I do, too. But someone has to

see what the enemy or the white supremists are up to..Thanks, proud2Blib! :toast:

Now how are they going to be disinvited?

[geckosfeet]

178. I know. I count on some braver du'ers than I to that dirty work.

Honestly, I simply cannot go to those sites. Its like walking into phsychiatric hospital. I can't deal with the anxiety of knowing that there are people out there who really feel like that.

Thats why I like this place so much. Sometimes I feel violated when I see that someone has quoted some freeper or some article from those places.

I think I need to get out more.

[Thtwudbeme]

Of COURSE it was on a Conservative Message board...those freaks

haven't recovered from 1864 yet.

Stupid fucking neanderthals...I freaking hate them.

They make me ashamed to be white, and no, I am not kidding.

[shraby]

3. Anybody give a heads up to Cindy

and the gang?
Oh, and could you repost this with a title that gives some idea of what's up?

[proud2BlibKansan]

21. done

good suggestion.

[Roland99]

105. Thank you!!

[electropop]

119. Is that Wall Drug?

Looks vaguely familiar...

[proud2BlibKansan]

144. The pic in my sig line?

That was taken in Crawford at The Yellow Rose store.

[AtomicKitten]

175. Cindy on Air America today

was talking to Randi Rhodes and said BushCo is putting out an ad tomorrow saying she, Cindy, is supported by Al-Qaeda and by white supremacists. The dots are connecting ...

[aquart]

4. YES! Let all of America know that racist scum support Bush.

I hope they hold up many posters proclaiming the greatness of the white race with George's picture.

And I hope we take lots and lots of pictures.

[aquart]

5. And for every one of them under forty...

Ask them why they're not in uniform and why they're not in Iraq.

[Celeborn Skywalker]

26. Problem.

These scumbags are actually going to go support Cindy.

[Miss Chybil]

35. Or, at least, pretend they are supporting her to make her look bad.

There's a name for this, but I can't think of it right now. You go in, act like you're "for" whatever it is you're supposed to be for, then start some shit and make the people who are really "for" look very, very bad.

[aaronnyc]

42. No, they genuinely are against the War

I used to browse through their website, and they have been adamantly opposed to the Iraq War from the start. They despise Bush and the Neocon agenda - since they see the word neocon as being synonymous with Jewish interests. They really believe that the true goal of the Iraq War is some kind of Jewish world supremacy.

Essentially, their views on U.S. policy are like Pat Buchanan's - but much more extreme.

[yojon]

164. they got that wrong

BushCo will go after the Jews as soon as they are done with the homosexuals.

[Al-CIAda]

43. Agent provocateur. nt

[zanne]

94. I agree Miss Chybil

This group could've been organized by Karl Rove.

[rinsd]

114. Stromfront believes the Mossad did 9-11 and the Iraq war is for Israel...

...so they are "anti-war" in possibly one of the most perverse ways one can be.

[Interrobang]

155. It's called "gaslighting"

Or at least you could consider it to be a form of gaslighting, anyway.

[AlCzervik]

120. Ah Storm-front isn't for the war you know, their presence will be bad

for everyone.

[jmowreader]

121. The racist scum are going because they DON'T support Bush

They're pretty certain that this is a war to benefit Israel. In some twisted fashion, they're right. (You know what they say about stopped clocks.)

I believe that even racist scum have the right to protest Bush, but I hope against hope that they have the decency to set up their protest in a different area from Cindy's protest.

[donheld]

133. Sweety you didn't read the OP

These idiots do not support bush at least on this issue.

[aquart]

176. It never even occurred to me.

How foolish to think one fascist would be the ally of another.

So are they rallying because they believe the anti-semitic garbage being spread about Cindy? What strange bedfellows. With fleas.

[alittlelark]

6. There is NO WAY Camp Casey will allow racist freaks there for long

It's a good thing they have fomented a relationship w/ the police out there.


Stormfront is a scary site... I'm sure their ppl are also freaky.

[jonnyblitz]

29. interesting postion they take. they are anti-war and anti-bush

because they think its a war fought for ISRAEL BUT they don't want the leftists to own the anti-war movement , or something like that. As much as we would like to, you can't claim they are there in support of BUSH. It's not that black and white. So they are going there as anti-war. blech :shrug: sort of like a Pat Buchanan stance i guess. :P

on edit: I meant this response for the OP..oops.

[Tyranny_R_US]

54. Interesting position they take on Martin Luther King

http://www.stormfront.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=81

Ms. Sheehan owes to the King family who have been supporters of her to tell this group to FUCK OFF even if its BS info.

[Booster]

107. Well, maybe at least we'll get some of the Texas reserves back

from Iraq early - sounds like they're needed in Crawford.

[rateyes]

124. Yeah, someone needs to alert the police that

people who are not welcome are planning on crashing the party, stealing the food, etc. We DON'T need their dumbass endorsement. Scum-bags, all of them.

[Cleita]

7. Stormfronters are white supremists.

They are affiliated with the Aryan Nation and other groups who claim to be patriots.

What a lot of people don't realize about the WS is that they hate our government as much as we hate the people who have taken over our government now. Don't be fooled by the fact that we seem to be united.

[knight_of_the_star]

8. Not good

Can anyone get warning to Camp Casey? How many people can we scramble to be in the area to deal with this? I would if I wasn't in California.

[derby378]

95. I sent a warning to Crawford Peace House

Hopefully they'll read it and inform the local cops.

[smoogatz]

9. Reads like a hoax to me.

But wouldn't it be interesting if the skinheads and Al Sharpton all showed up at once? Fact is, Camp Casey's on private property, and the owner can refues access to anyone he wants. If these skinhead dipshits actually show up, turn the dogs on 'em.

[lonestarnot]

10. Second that!

[proud2BlibKansan]

22. I would bet they are all talk

and no action.

[berni_mccoy]

11. Stormfront is run by Don Black a VERY EVIL DUDE

Former KKK Leader, an criminal who actually tried to invade Dominica and served time in jail in texas.

You can read about his background on Wiki ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Black_%28nationalist%29 ) and here is proof the guy is a Bush 'supporter' (he's more of an anti-democrat): http://lists.democracygroups.org/pipermail/rightwatch/2000q4/000001.html

There is no doubt these guys are going in to cause problems for the protesters. THEY ARE VIOLENT, have criminal records and the authorities in Crawford should be notified.

[shadowknows69]

15. this stinks to high heaven of Rovian influence

the right would love to spin this in their favor.

[me b zola]

25. Cindy should consider addressing this before any unwanted arrivals

All it would take is one person spouting that crap to show up and recieve national media coverage.

[proud2BlibKansan]

31. Interesting you would bring that up

I read that message board for awhile and they are very critical of the neocons. One of the members also posted that picture we have posted here so much - of Rove in handcuffs being taken away by cops.

[AlienGirl]

63. It doesn't even have to be a Rove plot

These nutjobs can come up with this kind of thing all by themselves.

Tucker

[me b zola]

24. yes, and in addition

the authorities should know that these people are in NO WAY associated with the anti-war movement. They are in fact "party" crashers.

Talk about the enemy infiltrating.

God, I smell KKKarl.

[Autonomy]

39. Kinda like the Hell's Angels showing up at Altamont

all hell broke loose and someone died.

[uncle ray]

58. huh?

what does some skinheads showing up in Crawford have to do with the Hell's Angels being paid to be security at a rock concert? they did't just "show up".

[Autonomy]

104. Paid... 'showed up'... who cares?

Point is, it was a clash of cultures, with one side prone to civil disobedience, and the other side prone to antisocial violence. Violence without conscience or accountability fully negates peaceful civil disobedience, not that I think it will go quite that far, but the elements are there.

[Blue_In_AK]

168. That's right. I was there.

The Rolling Stones, in an incredible lapse of good sense, hired the Hell's Angels as security. They were storming around the place on their choppers all day disturbing all the peace-loving hippies, of which I was one.

[Joanne98]

98. good point...

[ObaMania]

12. No chance this is yet another Rovian ploy to make cindy look bad? n/t

[magellan]

13. Might be a hoax but well worth warning the local police (nt)

[Not_Giving_Up]

14. I posted this in the Texas forum

To give a head's up.

[SuniSurf]

19. Not Giving Up - Add this to the list to send to Cindy

An Associated Press article just released:


Bush Family Hosts White House Reporters
The Associated Press
Published: Aug 25, 2005



http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBFSP9TTCE.html


CRAWFORD, Texas (AP) - President Bush played host to the White House press corps Thursday night for a private off-the-record dinner at his ranch.

The casual affair of fried catfish, potato salad, coleslaw, homemade cheese and chocolate-chip cookies followed a tradition in which Bush and his wife, Laura, have the press covering his annual August vacation out to the their ranch in central Texas as a sort of thank-you.

The event was not held last year because of the busy campaign season. The invitations to the reporters were issued on the condition that they not discuss conversations at the event.

AP-ES-08-25-05 2215EDT


We need to watch what the next form of attack is.

[me b zola]

36. "We need to watch what the next form of attack is."

We also need a guest/attendence list.

[rateyes]

126. Welcome to DU!

:hi:

[Brightmore]

16. Why are they assuming

Cindy is an Israel hater and a anti-Semite? Don't they realize they will be around a bunch of left-wingers?

[Lone_Star_Dem]

17. I sent this to a couple of people with connections in Crawford

I don't know if it's true or not, but it's better to be safe.

[proud2BlibKansan]

23. Thanks

I was hoping someone here would know who to send it to.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

28. My pleasure

Thank you for the heads up. :hi:

[Bluebear]

18. "Let The World Know That White Patriots blah blah"

Not good.

[loudsue]

27. WOW!! The bushbots are REALLY scared of Cindy!!

All these racist extremists (and I know some of them personally -- I've worked with them off & on for 18 years at my job) are violently right wing, HEAVILY armed, and dangerous.

Even though some of them truly ARE convinced it's a war at Israel's request, they are EQUALLY racially biased against the "rag heads" (as they call 'em) as they are against the Jews, and don't mind "Bush blowing up those rag heads We aught to nuke 'em all." (I've heard it over & over.) They're simply hate filled, and white supremists to the core.

There is not one doubt in my mind that Rove has called out his old buddies from Texas for this one. They're out to bring Cindy down at any cost....and, I have NO doubt, they're paying nicely for this bunch of extremists to go "join" the anti-war protesters.

Like Rove always says: "Strike at their STRENGTHS!" What better way to do that, than to send these freaks to Camp Casey to get INSIDE the anti-war movement....like a computer virus, or a worm.

But, you know what? It's going to blow up in their faces BIG TIME, this time. Rove has chosen a battle HE FRIKKIN' CAN'T WIN. We're NOT there to fight, and it takes two to fight. Rove and his team are desperate, and he's pulling out his best fascist trick card for this one.

Not transparent, much, are ya rover?

Give the cops in Crawford a copy of this post. Camp Casey folks... remain calm and centered. Invite the posers to leave...break 'em up into small units, and have civil discussions about peace. Take a vet with you. Keep one of the sheriff's deputies close by. HAVE A PLAN.

:kick::kick::kick:

[Warren DeMontague]

30. Wow, does THAT smell like Bullshit.

Can you say "government sponsored disruption and disinformation campaign"?

I knew you could!

[Generic Other]

32. Will we be able to spot them in their hooded regalia?

Good grief. Can they just be directed to go right into the Bush ranch? Maybe go talk to the SS about job opportunities?

The nerve of those f*ckers thinking they would be welcome to guzzle food and water collected for Cindy and the "leftist Johnny-come-latelys.".

[wli]

33. Bush-sponsored vigilantes... it's not the "White House" for nothing n/t

[Miss Chybil]

34. Come on down! Free food! Wear your pointy hats.

This is bull.

[fujiyama]

37. They could attempt to hijack the movement

making this about ZOG and other racist anti-semitic "theories".

[Not_Giving_Up]

38. Keep this kicked

Those in or going to Crawford need to know!

:kick:

[LiberalUprising]

41. Kick

[Autonomy]

40. This reminds me of the Reverend Fred Phelps

He's a rightwing whacko, but for some reason likes Al Gore and the Democratic Party. It doesn't make sense, but when you are talking about weirdo extremists, why would we be surprised by anything they do? Just having Pat Buchanan as a strange bedfellow against the Iraq war was weird enough for me.

[proud2BlibKansan]

89. Phelps doesn't join movements

He protests. He even picketed Reagan's funeral.

[Autonomy]

106. He might come and protest against both sides! nt

[bullwinkle428]

100. I thought I read Phelps was busy

trying to kill the King of Sweden... :shrug:

[DanCa]

44. When are the army recruiters going to be there?

This is getting worrisome. I am praying for you guys.

[Not_Giving_Up]

46. This weekend as well

The recruiters are going to be in the pro-war crowd. The racists are going to try to stand at Camp Casey.

I'm going Saturday, and this has me worried.

[DanCa]

47. Hang in there i just had my dopamine

And am wide awake worrying for you. Stay sate. Tell cindy I got a candle in my window right now for you guys.

[orleans]

45. reminds me of the expression "politics make strange bedfellows"

n/t

[DanCa]

48. Watch the trail of billy jack the second movie.

Truth is stranger than fiction.

[AlienGirl]

67. We must NOT let these become our bedfellows

Not even for this.

These people may oppose this war, but they would kill us all if they could--not only those DUers who are Jewish, or who have African or Asian or Native ancestry, but also the rest of you for making common cause with "non-Aryans."

These are NOT our allies, ever.

Tucker

[Prism]

49. I was beginning to wonder . . .

. . . when the third ring would arrive.

Lovely.

[DanCa]

50. welcome to DU prisim

:hi:

[Prism]

51. Thanks!

=) :hi:

[AlienGirl]

52. I have it on good information that this person...

is David Duke's mouthpiece.

Quote from my friend Who Knows Things:

The E.U.R.O. updates sent out by Duke's organization are signed at the bottom by "Jamie Kelso for Rep. David Duke". This could be big.

I can't tell you who my source is on this, because they are in very, very deep "cover" inside this organization. But rest assured, the person who gave me the heads-up here is a trusted friend, someone I know has access to this information.

Stay safe, everyone.

Tucker

[Not_Giving_Up]

53. The site was hawking duke all over the place

The affiliation was not exactly something they were hiding.

[AlienGirl]

55. This individual person is individually connected to Duke

That's a different thing. Probably not hard to dig for if you want to dig, but this person isn't just a fanboy. He works for Duke.

Tucker

[Not_Giving_Up]

56. I'm going to be there on Saturday

I'm hoping all stays calm.

[AlienGirl]

60. Stay safe. Watch for well-dressed men and women with good hair.

Sounds strange, but it's the best way I can put it. Not all of them are going to look or sound that scary (hoods or bald heads or whatnot). My source has warned me that there is a "professional class" of white supremacist that seems completely reasonable, but leads this whole sick subculture. They are somewhat separate from the "grunts," the skinheads and Klan-types and all that who provide the muscle.

Tucker

[Not_Giving_Up]

61. Will do

I thought it was funny that the message said to wear long sleeves. Granted, you won't get sunburned, but you'll be really HOT!

[AlienGirl]

62. Yep!

However, there are bugs.

The white supremacists will probably be wearing long sleeves and long pants to cover tattoos, too.

Tucker

[Not_Giving_Up]

64. I live four hours from there...I know all about the bugs

I'll be wearing jeans and thick boots...but I'm wearing my DU shirt. My legs never get any sun and will fry in a heartbeat out there.

Didn't think about the tattoo thing...good thinking!

[AlienGirl]

65. Watch your back. Please.

This has me really worried. :-(

Tucker

[Not_Giving_Up]

68. Me too

A friend of mine is going with me and she plans to take her kids. I was already planning to leave mine at home with their father for several reasons.

1. If something goes wacko, the kids don't need to be there.
2. Four hours of "He touched me, she touched me, he's looking at me..."
3. Incessant whining about heat and various bugs. 4. "Moooooom, when are we going HOME??"

I'll talk to her in the morning and see if she still wants to take her kids.

[Touchdown]

135. Mom. Is that you?

I swear I never touched her. I only had my hand in mid air over her seat. I was a full 5" from her face. She's the liar, NOT ME!:cry:

[elehhhhna]

91. They'll be dropping like flies in that heat. lol.

[Generic Other]

57. I forwarded the info to the Crawford Peace House and others

who are on the ground there.

[Not_Giving_Up]

59. Thanks

I figured if it got enough attention, it would make it to them.

[Generic Other]

66. Also sent a head's up to Randi, Truthout and White Rose

Let's hope they are mostly hot air. And plan for the worst.

These guys are not nice.

[Not_Giving_Up]

69. Good going!

I'm hoping they are all blow no show!!

[katinmn]

136. Thank you! They can alert law enforcement who will give them

the ground rules for counter-protesters.

[Peter Frank]

70. This is Great!!!

His ignorant base will be exposed!!!

[AlienGirl]

71. Please re-read the OP

These people are going down there in ostensible "support" for Sheehan.

Tucker

[Not_Giving_Up]

72. No, this is bad!

They're coming out as anti-war....to stand with Cindy and the rest of us!

[Not_Giving_Up]

73. kick

:kick:

[rman]

74. are those the folks who support zionism and wave swastika flags?

[Not_Giving_Up]

75. Yeah, those would be the ones

They are friends of David Duke's.

[Brightmore]

78. They don't support Zionism

They hate it.

[Not_Giving_Up]

79. OK, well, I didn't read their mission statement

I saw quite enough to know that these people will be trouble if they show up.

[rman]

76. our "leftist leaders, like Hillary Clinton" - LOL

Yeah, Hillary is such socialist DLC type...

[rman]

77. so much for 'the left is anti-semetic'

how about we inform the RW talking heads in the MSM of the talking points of this RW group?

[bluestateguy]

80. Are they going to meet with Al Sharpton?

n/t

[jsamuel]

83. yeah... hmmm... I am curious on how this is going to pan out...

[TK421]

101. KUPO!!

[TWiley]

81. What a slick way to support bush.

send the freaks out to support the opposition. This sounds like something Rove would cook up.

[TWiley]

82. Crawford TX surrounded by 10 KKK groups

and, 26 other similar Right Wing Extremist groups.
http://tolerance.org/maps/hate/state.jsp?S=TX&m=3

[Brightmore]

84. These guys actually hate Bush

They think he's a Jewish puppet.

They hate liberals like Hillary Clinton and other Dems for the same reason. It seems they just hate everyone.

[TWiley]

92. They are aligned with the Conservatives on many issues though.

States rights, abortion, immigration, lots of them are church-going folks, false patriotism and so on.

Many actually support the war because it is against Muslims as their members tend to be fundamentalist protestants.

http://www.religioustolerance.org/cr_ident.htm
http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia.edu/nrms/identity.html

I think it is a set up to slam the anti-war movement.

[Joanne98]

99. It doesn't matter, they're still fascists.....

[Tsiyu]

85. They are parading all their fools in Crawford YEAH!

Show the world what Repukes are all about!

You got the empty Freep campsite, the sadist who mows down memorial crosses, the adolescent Talk boys screaming "We don't care" and now this?

What are they gonna write on their signs?

"We support the Caucasian troops!"

Do they know how many of the markers are for Black, Hispanic or Arab soldiers? Do they want all the non-White troops to come home and stop fighting **'s War on Humanity?

I say, "Bring it on." The more desperate these fools become, the fewer people will support or want to associate with the right wingers.

[Not_Giving_Up]

86. You're not getting it

These idiots are coming to Camp Casey...They are against the war because they relate it to Isreal, therefore relate it to Jews. They want to come and stand with US. This is BAD.

[Tsiyu]

87. I get it now; they are against the war and edited

but they will be seen for what they are. Besides, they will only have three fools show up. Let them come. It will be their mistake.

[ultraist]

128. They don't really want to stand with Cindy, they want to TAKE OVER

We don't want leftist Johnny-come-latelys who are misleadingly protesting this war as if the war is about oil (not true), or as if it's right-wing patriots who launched this war (not true) to hijack the issue from us.

[Not_Giving_Up]

88. kick for the early crew

:kick:

[proud2BlibKansan]

90. and another kick

[MsTryska]

96. actuslly i'm quite irked that the nazis seem to think

this is all put on for free.


and all they gotta do is show up and take over Camp Casey.

i hope it is a hoax. if not those bitches need to pack their own gear and set up Camp Nazi down the road apiece.

[Joanne98]

97. OH NO! The stormfronters HATE us. Why are they really showing up?

[sniffa]

102. Let freedom reign

http://www.freeyourmindproductions.com/archives/01/hated-and-proud-let-freedom-reign-lyrics

[Not_Giving_Up]

103. kick

:kick:

[Generic Other]

108. CPH has been informed of this group and sends thanks for the info

Foerwarned is forearmed.

They report that they have good security at Camp Casey and at CPH.

[derby378]

113. A security tip for CPH...

Watch out for groups of cars with license plates from Idaho, Washington, Montana, Wyoming, and Oregon. Stormfront is nationwide in terms of members, but it seems most of them are concentrated in the Pacific Northwest.

[pitohui]

148. david duke is from louisiana

he'd love to make a come-back riding on his anti-war, anti-Jewish wave as he has a book full of anti-Semitic crap to sell

don't assume you will know them by their license plates

they could easily stage in louisiana or they could drive rental cars

[KamaAina]

109. Say, planning?

Hasn't one been there all month, clearing brush and milking the horse?

[anitar1]

110. Probably been paid to go thee IMO. n/t

[Niccolo_Macchiavelli]

111. can you spell Sturmabteilung?

someone says partybreakers and i think it's exactly that... just how SA disrupted opposition gatherings 1930-34 until they got more powers and were annihilated 1936

[Not_Giving_Up]

112. A bus load of Freepers on one side

Camp Casey on the other...Been calm so far. Mix in Stormfronters...How calm will it be? I see them starting a fight with the freeps.

[Roxy66]

115. Yikes.....this is scary

[YOY]

116. We need some large pissed off brothers there

Rascist scum won't come within 50 feet of several black men capable of tearing their chicken shit asses limb from limb.

[Generic Other]

127. Al Sharpton will be there Sunday

Is he big enough?

:evilgrin:

[YOY]

129. Oh yeah!

and I'm sure that his entourage will be strong enough to scare those racist rats back into their murky holes!

I was hoping for some everyday-joe Ving Rames sized guys or maybe a few boxers or linebackers from some well-known teams. But this is MUCH better!!!

Love that Al!!!:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

[Laughing Mirror]

137. He's not that big really for a man of his age

About 6 feet, slightly portly but no more than that, not very threatening a personage until he opens his mouth. I believe he would engage the white supremacists in dialogue and would win the debate in the end.

[YOY]

165. But his bodyguards...

Probably some big dudes.

[mvd]

117. Ugh - can't we make them have their own space?

Other than that problem, the Stormfronters aren't going to have credibility to anyone but the extremely racist.

[Alizaryn]

Oh THIS will help the Pro-War's reputation and credibility!

PRO-WAR-WHITESUPERMISTS & NEOCONS

The message is beginning to hit home and the vermin are crawling out from under the rocks, seething in their hatred.
The Peace Activists need to ignore and remain peaceful.



edit to add ...

(PRO-WAR AND NEOCONS AND WHITESUPREMISTS OH MY!)

[Thtwudbeme]

122. AND...AND...The Sonsofbitches are planning on using the resources

without helping pay for them!

Creepy jackasses.

Did I mention that I despise white supremeists? Was that clear from my posts????

[Scout1071]

123. Proud - I think I ran into one of these guys at the vigil for Cindy on the

Plaza. He was wearing a shirt that said "End the Occupation" on the front and "Israel out of Palestine and Cindy out of Texas too" on the backside. I thought he was a Freeper, but my mom commented that he looked (and acted like) a Nazi. Maybe he was with this crew and not the Freeper board. Although there truly isn't much difference.

[proud2BlibKansan]

149. We had a training session today on gangs in KC

and the cops doing the training said there are several white supremacist groups here in KC. So this guy could very well have been a Nazi.

[Scout1071]

156. He wasn't a kid. He was in his '30's.

I thought he was a definite freeper, but I believe he was now a neo type character. Now that I say that Neo-con, Neo-nazi...not that much of a stretch. Facists alike.

[proud2BlibKansan]

158. The white supremacists tend to be older

than other gang members.

Do you ever go to the channel 5 discussion board? There is a neo Nazi who posts pretty regulary there.

[sunnystarr]

125. From a poster on that site:

We're not going to Crawford to support leftists...we're going to Crawford to oppose leftists!.

This really could be ugly...

[ultraist]

131. It could get ugly, they are very violent.

But, Camp Casey is on PRIVATE PROPERTY so regardless of what they say, the cannot hang out there if they are asked to leave.

[rateyes]

130. I wonder if the owner of the property can get in touch

with a judge and slap that evil bastard and his pos cronies with a court order to stay the hell away from there?

[elehhhhna]

132. You've never met a TX Sheriff, have you? Don't worry 'bout no Judge...

Law enforcement has everything under control.

[rateyes]

140. Actually, during the 5 years I lived in TX,

met a couple...just been too many years ago to remember...I see what you mean!

[gkhouston]

142. yes, and they can do a lot by persuasion and intimidation alone

If this one's smart, he'll talk with the property owner and they'll agree that it's better if these yahoos don't set foot on Camp Casey. Some of them are violent and have criminal records -- not the type of folk you want to make welcome in town -- so why make 'em welcome? Cindy and her people have been behaving themselves and these other people look to be stirring up some trouble, so why hand 'em the spoon? They want to protest? The ditch is over there. 'Course the heat index is well over 100 and those yahoos haven't come prepared, so they probably won't stay long, but that's not our problem, now is it? ;-)

[William Bloode]

134. I don't approve of them or what they stand for.

But it is in a way good to have them their too. It eats at part of *ush boys base.

i hope everyone can play nice, but i kinda doubt it. I know i personally have a tendency to wanna slap them upside the head when i see them.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

138. They were planning to be at Camp Casey with us.

The good people at Crawford Peace House and Camp Casey has been alerted and I'm sure they will handle this properly.

[William Bloode]

139. On 2nd thought,

Seems it's more likey a rightwing ploy to disrupt. I thought it originally.....it just seems like something they would attempt to either discredit or disrupt the whole 9yrds. I smell a little piggy name Rove all over this.

[Xithras]

141. The property owner can tell them to leave.

Nobody can do much if they want to protest along the roadway, but Camp Casey is now on private property and the landowner is under no obligation to allow them onto his property. They'll have no access to the tent, the food, or anything else.

And remember: This is Texas we're talking about. Trespassers can be shot :)

[Not_Giving_Up]

143. Yes he can

Hopefully everyone there is getting ready for this stupidity.

[jmm]

145. Looks like they'll be arriving about the same time as Sharpton .

Hopefully there turn out will be about as good as the average freeper rally.

[Not_Giving_Up]

146. I think Sharpton is coming Sunday

These guys are supposed to be there tomorrow....As am I.

[BrightKnight]

147. I met a guy with a shaved head on Tuesday.

He was not in good enough shape to be in the military. He drove in from Madison WI on Tuesday night. I talked to him a few times because I was concerned. I got the impression that he was a skinhead.

He hated the MSM and got his news form alternative sources. He was evasive about the sources. He was not interested in progressive alternative sources. He was giving pre-arranged interviews with his cell phone.

He was keeping a low profile and I do not think that he was looking for trouble.


I could be wrong.

[ultraist]

150. If he was a skinhead, he was probably casing the camp!

They have probably sent people down there already to scope out the lay of the land, including the camp.

You should let someone at Crawford House know about this suspicious character and describe him, so they can keep an eye on him (if he's still there).

[Freedomfried]

151. Skinheads make for a hell of a good goon squad

Let em rip the Bushbots a new one!

[Kurovski]

152. "...their leftist leaders, like Hillary Clinton..." (!)

Heheheh! Now that's funny!

[Frederik]

153. They can be identified by their vehicles

[entanglement]

154. EXCEEDINGLY interesting development

Don Black (founder of Stormfront) is a very smart guy, he's always been looking at ways to 'mainstream' his ideas / get the message out and he figures this is a great opportunity for him to get publicity. (He was one of the earliest White Power people to realize the potential of the Internet as a recruiting tool)

And people...if you're expecting klansmen in sheets or shaved head skinheads, you're wrong. Many of these people are as 'mainstream' as they come.

[Wizard777]

157. First I'm NOT one of those Wizards. I'm a living practising Wizard of

Ahura Mazda. I am The Magus Amathion of The Ilm-i-Khshnoom. Leader of the Maji.

I think it would be wise to take the claim with a grain of salt. Their reputations too many have been tarnished in the public eye by evil. Like with Hitlers Swastika. It was a vain use of a High Holy Symbol. In Hitlers lie it was the symbol of Germanys supreme power. In truth it is the symbol of God's whirlwind force of creation. There are the truly faithful that will not abandon this holy symbol because of Hitlers evil. They instead pick it up and polish away the ill and evil tarnish to carry it onward to the Glory of God. Like with what Bush is trying to do to Cindy.

There are also organization that promote the heritage of the white people. They are the equivalent of the NAAACP. Except with whiet people. Some are unfairly and inaccurately labeled White Supremacists. Others are diluted fronts for the aryan nation. So at least find out who they are and what they really stand for before turning them Away. After Bush summarily dismmissed Million of Americans. We can not do the same. When you fight fire with fire. To the victor goes the ashes. We want more than for OUR America. You have their number. Talk to them and not at them. Stress the peaceful nature. Most of all be truthful with them. Let them know that there are concerns. Some are worried. Maybe allow a represenative or small delgation to come to the camp to address these concerns and fears. Don't Judge a book by it's Cover.

One thing is for sure. With these guys wanting to attend and Al Sharpton too. This will challenge the Camps ability to Unite the many different peoples of America. Are you up to it? Can you out united the great uniter. Whites and Blacks have come together before in the democrat party. With amazing results and success of Constitutional purportions. Can we do it again? Can we create the more perfect union at Camp Casey?

[proud2BlibKansan]

161. I checked this group out

They are definitely white supremacists.

[mixedview]

172. sorry, this isn't some ethnic pride group, go read their boards

They hate MLK, hate the Jews, deny the holocaust, advocates of eugenics.. they are white nationalists/separatists.

[wellstone dem]

160. not good

[growlypants]

162. Oh shit.

[growlypants]

163. I emailed them begging they not go. They'll probably come kill me

[NancyG]

166. These are the signs to look out for:

NO WAR FOR ISRAEL
DEFEND OUR BORDERS, NOT ISRAEL'S
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS, DON'T LET THEM DIE FOR ZIONISM
WHERE'S HILLARY? WHERE'S THE ZIONIST LEFT?

Here are some of the comments from this despicable website:

"Let me address your very good point. I can't imagine, in my wildest dreams, a more perfect set-up for carrying a "Put Our Troops On the Rio Grande Not the Euphrates!" sign than this once-in-a-lifetime media event at Bush's ranch gate."

"Do you know why we haven't or heard about such a sign as "Put Our Troops On the Rio Grande Not the Euphrates!" on the news? Real easy answer...because we didn't show up."

"Our signs will also be strategically positioned to be visible for any media camera we see"

Seems like those with anti-Zionist/Isreal and anti-immigration signs are those to pay attention to. These people are pretty sick, They did give Cindy a compliment, of sorts:

"There is no downside to dignified street activism. The Crawford, Texas encampment by Cindy Sheehan is arguably the single most brilliant tactical propaganda move in decades. What Cindy Sheehan did was simply to "do it".

I had no idea what these people were currently up to. I thought they were in camoflage playing war games in the woods. Very spooky. Keep us informed.

[proud2BlibKansan]

179. Also the number 88

It stands for the eighth letter of the alphabet - H.

So 88 is HH, or Heil Hitler.

(or is it Hiel? Not a word I use often enough to know how to spell it)

[Kerebos]

167. Al Sharpton will be there

This is bad news, and could get ugly.

Anyone know if these racist fucks from Stormfront are really showing up?

[NancyG]

169. You'll tell them by their new big straw hats...

"And reassure folks that they won't have any trouble finding us at Camp Casey. There aren't that many people there, and the encampment is all in one spot. We'll be the folks in big straw hats (I bought a bunch of 'em) carrying signs that say "Put Our Troops On The Border...Not In Baghdad!!"

The site in the original post, 8 pages, goes thru their planning and who's picking up whom.

[Kerebos]

170. Stormfront

is a disgusting group of human waste. They are attached to our side now, though, even though we don't want their "help". They get associated with the right in the same way.

They are the bags of stinking turds that get tossed around and NO ONE wants to claim as their own because they don't belong anywhere except in the bottom of an outhouse.

[derby378]

171. I went and visited Stormfront (and need a shower now)

That thread doesn't seem too popular. There's a chance that James Kelso and "Free Zundel Now" may be the only "Fronters" that show up at Camp Casey. If so, let's do the math. Two white supremacists freeloading our food and water vs. at least a thousand peace activists on Saturday - I almost feel sorry for the poor schmucks. Maybe they should smoke some pot, listen to Bully Boys, and sleep it off in a dirt field outside Sherman. It'll be so much better for them.

[mistertrickster]

173. Well, this isn't going to make me popular for saying this. But there's a

kernal of truth here. If Israel wasn't there, would BushCo. still have invaded Iraq?

Hard to say for sure, but it didn't hurt, did it?

The fact of the matter is that BushCo and the NeoCons want to use the military to control the Mideast, for oil and for Israel.

The White Power skinheads have the wrong motivations, but in this case, they came up with part of the right conclusions.

White Power is a backlash movement for people who feel powerless. In that respect, they are also correct. Blue collar and trailer "trash" folks DON'T have any power and so they cling to "God, guns, and (anti) gay" appeals to give themselves the illusion of some control. They aren't rich, they aren't successful, they aren't educated, they have no job security or health care or land or inheritance.

But they are white, dammit. And no one can take that away from them.

With the right approach, these folks could channel their rage in more constructive ways, but nobody, especially not Democrats, are even trying.

Remember how much crap Howard Dean took when he said something about speaking to the interests of the white Southerner with a rebel flag on his pickup?

This would be a good opportunity to dialogue with these dudes in a non-confrontational and non-judgemental way to show them that the roots are their rage are justified, but the targets they have chosen are not.

[mixedview]

174. IMO, all of these white supremacist groups are terrorist organizations

Everyone is entitled to their views, but these extreme right organizations are known for advocating hateful violence and intimidation of minorities and other groups.

Even though these organizations consider themselves politically "independent", they are NOT centrists, they are extreme rightists. They hate Bush and the GOP, but do so because he's too far LEFT for them.. because they see him as a puppet for the "Zionists", "the socialists", and the "multiculturalists" who are destroying their "great, white homeland."

This particular organization are nativists like Pat Buchanan, except much farther to the right. They are white nationalists.

[The Kicker]

177. This is an anti-war smear effort.

The propogandists will use this to try to marginalize Cindy Sheehan and all who support her. It will not stand. This should be derailed asap. If the stormfronters want to protest this war, they need to organize their own protest. It is obvious that they do not stand with Ms. Sheehan and all the rest of us who are not haters. They should not be allowed anywhere near Camp Casey.

[dogday]

180. They can't stand the democratic party-filled with too many

unwanted (not our type) people. However they see this as a chance to bring Israel into the picture, they strongly feel that our presence in Iraq is due to the influence of Israel (they don't like them Jews) and they see this as a way to protest the war and the Jews and the same time.

You can't stop a movement once it has started and you can't designate who comes to protest the war. You can put out a statement that although you don't agree with their reasons, they have every right to protest just like we do.... This can either work out amicably or it go into a full fledge riot. But regardless whether we like the reason they want to protest the war, they have the right to do it.....

[ComerPerro]

181. The right can attack us for this as soon as they attack the Minutemen

until they do go after those racists assholes, though, then they will have to just shut the fuck up about this.

At least we denounce groups like this.

Hell, here in KS, the guy running against Dennis Moore actually took money from White Supremacist groups.