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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 03:08 AM
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American Baptist minister heading to "hunt down" King of Sweden


The fanatical American Baptist minister, Fred Phelps, is on his way to Sweden. "We'll hunt down your king," he said ominously to Expressen. "It doesn't make any difference where he tries to hide."

Phelps' hatred of the royal family and all things Swedish is linked directly to his equally virulent hatred of homosexuals. He praises homophobic crimes, including murder. When controversial Swedish minister, Åke Green, was convicted of inciting hatred of homosexuals following an anti-gay sermon, Phelps saw red and turned his attention to Sweden.

"You're doomed to spend eternity in hell," he continued. "All you Swedes and your Swedish king and his family."

The minister and twenty members of his congregation from the Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, Kansas, are planning to come to Sweden at the beginning of September. They are bringing plenty of placards in order to spread their message that Sweden is the cradle of all evil and that the king rules a nation of sodomites. King Carl Gustaf is their primary target. "Your king represents your doomed country and we'll find him wherever he may be."

http://www.thelocal.se/article.php?ID=1961&date=20050825&PHPSESSID=3b666fd2de63750b8c53b1883a6928be
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Phelps' site calls Sweden "a land of sodomy, bestiality, and incest", and goes on to say: "The King looks like an anal-copulator, & his grinning kids look slutty & gay."

Under pictures of the royals, the site says: "You jackass Swedes just don't get it. Once you have laws to chill Bible preaching, we don't give a rat's tutu whatever else you do or say. You are drippings from the Devil's own penis - a veritable sperm bank for Satan's queers."

The site and its content have infuriated Swedes who have a close bond with their royal family.

The government has expressed its concern to the US Ambassador. And, the royals have consulted their lawyers.

http://www.365gay.com/newscon05/08/082305sweden.htm




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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 03:11 AM
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1. GO PHELPS!!!
And take Robertson and Falwell with you!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 03:12 AM
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What a thing to wish on Sweden!
:)

I have more in mind some primitive cannabistic culture.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 03:25 AM
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8. Naw, Sweden would know how to deal with these fuckwads.
Edited on Fri Aug-26-05 03:25 AM by Ladyhawk
Unfortunately, the US doesn't seem to get it.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 03:31 AM
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9. Good pernt. n/t
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 03:45 AM
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10. My DREAM headline: "Phelps Missing in Sweden; Search Parties Unlikely"
This batshit-smoking, wife-beating closet case
ain't crazy enough to actually GO to Sweden!
They have a real Government that follows LAWS there!
He and his followers would spend the rest of their days
in the world's most luxurious padded cells!

Fred Phelps' LUNATIC RANTINGS are actually a deliberate
cover-up for his REAL insanity.

He's CRAZY, but he's not as stupid as he pretends to be.
He's a guy who transformed his repressed homosexuality into HATE,
then focused on his hate until it became an ADDICTION.

And his overbearing personality turned his kids and a few supporters
into a CULT who hide from the world and marry only other cult members.

Y'all should read his Wiki-Bio, it is REALLY worth 5 min of your time:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rev._Fred_Phelps
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 06:26 AM
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21. I think the headline will more likely be:
"American Preacher under psychiatric evaluation in Sweden"
or
"Fred Phelps led from a Swedish airport in straight jacket"
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 10:29 AM
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37. I sent some premium coal to Blast Furnace 13 in HELL
just in case they all show up.
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 03:12 AM
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2. Somehow, I couldn't find it within myself to insult a monarch. . .
then travel to his kingdom.

My Momma raised me to be many things, but stupid wasn't one of 'em.
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BelleCarolinaPeridot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 03:12 AM
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3. What a donkey .
And how exactly does he know how an anal-copulator looks like ?

Go somewhere and croak Phelps .
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 03:55 AM
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12. "And how exactly does he know how an anal-copulator looks like ?"
Remember that old expression "takes one to know one"?


Phelps is such a twisted craphead he makes the most severely mentally ill person I work with look healthy by comparison.
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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 12:49 PM
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50. as Jon Stewart said...
"It's always about the butt sex".
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 07:19 AM
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65. Welcome to DU pepperbear
And you are right, it is always about butt sex. What is wrong with these people anyway? I should think that an innocent child stepping on a land mine would be more significant.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 03:14 AM
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4. He gets even more vitriolic all the time.
How low can he sink, anyway? It's like he's BEGGING to get attacked so he can claim the victim, and fill his coffers with more civil suit money.
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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 03:15 AM
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5. "You are drippings from the Devil's own penis"
I don't know why, but all I can do is :rofl: Who writes this shit??
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 03:17 AM
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7. The more 'pious' they are it seems the dirtier their minds work
It reads like cut-rate porno.
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tlsmith1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:28 AM
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25. It Sounds Like Some of the Things the Islamic Terrorists Say...
..do they have the same writers or something?:lol:

Tammy
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 12:16 PM
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47. My thoughts exactly.
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 03:15 AM
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6. Why would Sweden give them a visa? n/t
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etherealtruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 07:09 AM
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22. That was my question ... ?
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 03:47 AM
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11. Know what? Let him in..
Then immediately arrest Phelps charging him with threatening the Crown. Let him really get to know Sweden. Perhaps he'kk eventually change his mind and go back and tear down godhatesfags.com and replace it with godlovesfags and create a new website called iamsorryforbeingsuchavitrolicassholeandwillpaybackwithloveandmoney.com and watch his ex congregation lynch him. Justice served.
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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 12:09 PM
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41. don't they have hate speech laws there?
Edited on Fri Aug-26-05 12:09 PM by pepperbear
I thought they had very specific hate speech laws over there as a minister got himself in hot water for preaching the phelps party line.

so, uh, yeah, let him in.
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NorVegan Donating Member (26 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 04:15 AM
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13. About the tsunami..
This is what Phelps had to say: "Unconfirmed numbers of Swedes are dead as a result of the tsunamis which ravaged Thailand and the other lush resorts of that region, and thousands more are unaccounted for, either still rotting in the tropical conditions or buried, as they deserve, as asses in mass graves (see Jeremiah 22:19). Scarcely a family in Sweden has been untouched by the devastation. Bible preachers say, THANK GOD for it all!"

A majority of the Swedes vacationing in Thailand were families with small children..
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:20 AM
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23. Hi NorVegan!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 04:19 AM
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14. Ok, now we have 2 "preachers" wanting to kill heads of state. n/t
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 04:24 AM
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15. Is it just me, or these people really THAT stupid?
I mean the ones who say this stuff, and the ones who follow their causes.

This seems to answer that question What Would Jesus Do?
Evidently, he would go kill somebody.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 04:41 AM
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16. This is interesting from Wikipedia
Health

In Topeka, Kansas, there is much speculation regarding Phelps's health. He is reported to be suffering from an advanced form of cancer or Parkinson's Disease and has made few recent appearances. Recent photographs showing apparent partial facial paralysis suggest that he may have suffered a very mild stroke for which he was never hospitalized. Also, the length and incoherence of many of his recent sermons, as well as a large number of bizarre claims (including "George Bush worships Mr. Peanut, whose name is the great God Goober"), suggest to many that he is suffering from Alzheimer's disease, senility, or has suffered brain damage due to his amphetamine and barbiturate addiction in the 1960s.
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:43 AM
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32. doesn't his congregation notice this?
re: "the length and incoherence of many of his recent sermons, as well as a large number of bizarre claims"

Or is his church so cult-like they don't notice or care?
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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 12:12 PM
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43. actually
I have heard from MANY different sources that his "congregation" consists mainly of his extended family.
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Gruenemann Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 09:29 AM
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35. Advanced syphilis, maybe?
Any medical types here want to comment?
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 04:44 AM
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17. Oh, THIS ought to be fun!
I hope Sweden locks the lot of them up as terrorists. No rights, no lawyer, no trial by jury, some torture - just like we do at Gitmo.

Then the rightie tighties can explain the Geneva Conventions to Sweden.....:rofl:
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Binka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 05:05 AM
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18. I Just Heard On Rachel Maddow's Show
That the King of Sweden rear ended someone yesterday......could this throw more fuel on the fire of Demon Phelps'? Of course the King was driving his BMW at the time. Shouldn't the King be rear ending in a Volvo?

Fred Phelps and his whacked out daughter are the poster family for INCEST. Fuckwittages!
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SalmonChantedEvening Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 05:57 AM
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19. Hunt down? LOL Try that BIG PALACE Fred!!
If you want someone who's hard to locate, try Cheyney, you sick bastid. Sweden should bar his entry and let him and his team of lawyers spend a year or ten contesting it.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 06:17 AM
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20. EXCELLENT!
the Swedes will arrest these assholes and throw them in prison for decades!
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smirkymonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 12:15 PM
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46. Oooh! Yes!
Plenty of anal copulation there!

"Come and get it you freak show!" You know he's asking for it.
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tlsmith1963 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:26 AM
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24. Phelps is a Terrorist...
...& Robertson is a terrorist. They should both be in jail. But nooooo...Bush just *loves* them!:mad:

Tammy
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:31 AM
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26. There is a God......American terrorist Fred Phelps attacks Sweden....
Don't you love it when they go global?
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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 09:25 AM
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34. Ha! I laughed aloud at that one!
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MadHound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:35 AM
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27. Well if the Swiss have any sense
They will have a full compliment of security waiting to escort Mr. Phelps to a jail cell. Threats against a head of state are quite serious charges in all countries. Serious enough for 10-20, one can hope.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:39 AM
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28. Phelps is now totally mentally ill, and the press should pay no more
attention to him than they would to any other random person who walks around with paranoid delusions.

(The alternative explanation is that he's some kind of demented performance artist.)

The only reason most people know about him at all is that the media keep giving him free publicity.

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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:39 AM
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29. So does this mean Sweden can come to the US and attack Phelps?
And his whole congregation? A pre-emptive strike since he is threatening violence against them?
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bustarbusto Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 10:54 AM
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39. That seems to be the logical course
Perhaps we can get the UN to threaten him with "serious consequences" first, and put together a sham coalition. Nah, why bother. We'll just wait until he gets here and smite him with herring.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 02:34 PM
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56. Excellent point! nt
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:42 AM
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30. Anything that gets phelps out of America
Anyway we can revoke his plane tickets back?
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MN ChimpH8R Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:43 AM
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31. The Swedes should let Phelps in
then immediately lock him up. Ten or twenty years in a Swedish prison should settle ole Fred down real good.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:59 AM
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33. Here's a pic for you Bluebear:
:D

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 02:35 PM
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57. Hahahahahahaha
He fits right in!
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auburngrad82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 09:31 AM
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36. I hope they lock him up and throw away the key
Then he'll be out of our hair forever.
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 10:50 AM
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38. Fred Phelps is not an "American Baptist"
Edited on Fri Aug-26-05 10:54 AM by Heaven and Earth
The American Baptist Church is the mainline Baptist denomination in the United States. Their website is here: www.abc-usa.org

Phelps' Westboro Baptist church is independent of any established denominational organization, if I am not mistaken.


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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 10:59 AM
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40. He is American and He is a Baptist.
Edited on Fri Aug-26-05 11:01 AM by TWiley
That makes him an American Baptist right?

The religious calculus that determines who is a christian and who is not does not work very well.

They are Christian or Baptist if they claim to be. It is pretty difficult to determine anything else. As far as I can tell, there is not much supporting criteria to use as a qualifier.
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 12:12 PM
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42. In this case the question is simple:
Is he a member of a church that is affiliated with the American Baptist Church, which is the name of an actual organization?

The answer is no.

I felt the point needed to be clarified, that is all. I am not claiming that Phelps' is or isn't Christian or Baptist, just that he is not a member of that particular organization.
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 01:35 PM
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53. Oh, I did not know that there was an actual organization
called the "American Baptist" church. Sorry
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 02:51 PM
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60. Lots of people don't know that
I consider myself pretty knowledgeable about Christian denominations, and I never heard of the American Baptist Church until I taught at one of their colleges.

At first I hesitated about taking a job there, because I thought they would forbid me to have wine with dinner or would monitor my love life, but the other faculty members assured me that these were the liberal Baptists and that they didn't care what I did on my own time.

Sure enough, a few years later, the American Baptist minister in town performed a marriage service for a gay couple.

The members of the Southern Baptist church in town (the Southern Baptists are also a denomination, not just Baptists who happen to be in the South) picketed the service.

So the American Baptist Church is about as far away from Fred Phelps as you can get.
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 09:34 AM
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63. Well that is refreshing
Too bad these denominationa are not more vocal in their opposition. Without it, all of Christianity seems to be in agreement.
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 09:40 AM
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64. They are vocal in their opposition, but the press prefers to
fuss over "colorful" loonies like Phelps. The sane Christians are lucky to get one column inch on the back page.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 02:36 PM
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58. That's how the Swedish paper headlined it
no offense intended to 'real' baptists.
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More Than A Feeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 02:38 PM
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59. see post 42
It has nothing to do with 'real' baptist or not.
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txaslftist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 12:15 PM
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44. Wow... I didn't even know he was real.
I thought the "king of Sweden" was just a made up lyric from the Blues Brothers movie. You know, Minnie the Moocher?

"She had a fling with the King of Sweden...
He gave her diamonds and things she was needin'.."
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imperialismispasse Donating Member (836 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 12:15 PM
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45. He's such a closet case.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 12:19 PM
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48. Why isn't this man locked up in a psych hospital ?
He's the new poster child for the civil rights of the mentally ill. I'm all for those civil rights, except he's talking about homicide now.
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lapislzi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 12:20 PM
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49. Surprised he hasn't organized demonstrations at IKEA
There's something decidedly not right about all those lingonberries.
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pepperbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 12:56 PM
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51. exactly
how far to the right do you have to be to state on your website that Bush AND Falwell are both GOING TO HELL?!!? And then to declare that the Pope is already in Hell!

I would imagine after Jerry's latest "softening" of his stance on gay rights:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8870977/

that there must be a new circle JUST FOR HIM!
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 12:59 PM
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52. How much jail time am I looking at if I belt phelps with my walker?
Or should I save my last fight for that hermaphrodite Hannity?
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 01:37 PM
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54. Aw, belt phelps, what the heck.
He is such a strange little man. He came here to bitch about homosexuals, and I went down there to bitch at him even though I am heterosexual. He is one odd little man.

He would look good with a walker stuffed in his ass. Who would be the "anal copulator" then?
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 01:41 PM
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55. Cool but than I'll have to get a new walker :)
Can you see the headlines homophobe preacher gets righteously rectaled by walker?
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 02:57 PM
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61. WTF?
"The King looks like an anal-copulator, & his grinning kids look slutty & gay."

Um, has Phelps taken a look at his own children? They look like a bunch of in-bred cave men. What an asshole. I hope he DOES go to Sweden. He will never be heard from again.
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 09:32 AM
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62. Lets all chip in to by him a ticket to Sweeden
Then, we will tip off the police when he arrives.

His fantasies would be fullfilled. Anal Copulation with strangers behind bars.
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