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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:13 AM
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Gall of Hitchens to bring up Alzarqawi as being "In Iraq" on Daily Show
This is one of the biggest debunked pieces of shit ever, and a scandal how it was used to justify invasion.

Turns out that Alzarqawi (you might remember him as the man who has been attacking Iraqi civilians and sawing the heads off American private contractors) WAS in Iraq.

You heard me. He WAS in Iraq PRIOR TO THE INVASION.

But he was in the part of Iraq that was controlled by our Kurdish allies and patrolled by our own jets.

Saddam's forces couldn't get within five hundreds miles of Zarqawi.

And guess which US president turned down THREE REQUESTS to bomb Zarquawi's base in Kurdish controlled Iraq, in order to save the argument that "terrorists are in Iraq" for Hitchen's to use on the Daily Show?



http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4431601/

But NBC News has learned that long before the war the Bush administration had several chances to wipe out his terrorist operation and perhaps kill Zarqawi himself — but never pulled the trigger.
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The Pentagon quickly drafted plans to attack the camp with cruise missiles and airstrikes and sent it to the White House, where, according to U.S. government sources, the plan was debated to death in the National Security Council.

‘“People were more obsessed with developing the coalition to overthrow Saddam than to execute the president’s policy of preemption against terrorists,” according to terrorism expert and former National Security Council member Roger Cressey.

snip.

Military officials insist their case for attacking Zarqawi’s operation was airtight, but the administration feared destroying the terrorist camp in Iraq could undercut its case for war against Saddam.

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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:19 AM
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1. He also brought up that Yasin was being protected by Iraq. Yasin had
been wanted for the 1993 WTC bombing. Yasin was allowed to leave the US by the FBI. He wound up being held in prison in Iraq and Iraq tried to give him back to the US not once, not twice, but three times, and the US wouldn't take him. So that was bullshit too.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:26 AM
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2. Do you remember that Zarqawi was reported to have been killed
Edited on Fri Aug-26-05 08:27 AM by OmmmSweetOmmm
at the beginning of the war, and several tribal leaders in northern Iraq attested to it? I personally believe that he very well might be dead, and he is being kept as our very own Emmanuel Goldstein of 1984 infamy.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:28 AM
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3. Zarqawi/Bin Laden = Emmanuel Goldstein
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:33 AM
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4. Yes, they both are. n/t
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-05 11:17 AM
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8. He certainly was, although one difference
Emmanuel Goldstein wasn't actually killing people when he was set up as an enemy to keep people in line. He was a figment.

Asshole Bush let's the killing actually go on in order to get his political goals.

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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 08:54 AM
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5. As I Remember It
The Kurds tried to run them out a couple of times, but the resistance was too great. So they just set up a perimeter and kept them contained in the few villages they were in.

If we were serious about getting Al Queda in Iraq after 9/11, some air support and a few companies of Rangers to help the Kurds would have been all it would have taken.

Also, if I remember correctly, this area was not even attacked during the US 'invasion'.

It was not about Terraists. It was not about WMD.

It was about black gold, Mesopotamian Tea.

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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 09:24 AM
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6. Jon "You give us 5 guys in a country in the middle east who wants
to blow us up, and a few of them are probably working for us"
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La Coliniere Donating Member (581 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-26-05 09:45 AM
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7. This man is
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