Clinton, Clarke NEVER TOLD about ATTA & Gang being in US!!

[shraby]

This is from dailykos:

This is the deputy Counter-Terror head, Roger Cressey on Hardball being questioned by a 9-11 Widow:

BREITWEISER: If I could just jump in--if I could just jump in for a second, I particularly would like to ask Roger directly if he had known about this operation. Clearly, he and Richard Clarke were in a position at the time that this operation would have been put in place to know of such a thing.

And, Roger, I`m just wondering, did you know this?

CRESSEY: No, not at all. This was not shared with the National Security Council staff.

(CROSSTALK)

CRESSEY: And, Kristen, let me say that, if this information is correct, the real--the central issue is, why was it not shared with the counterterrorism policy community?

(CROSSTALK)

CRESSEY: Because that was where this could be acted upon.

GREGORY: Let me just interject for a second.

Roger, why wouldn`t that be something that would be shared with you when you were doing that kind of work at the time?

BREITWEISER: Right.

CRESSEY: If this was an internal DOD effort and it was being done by SOCOM, then it would be up to the Pentagon itself to determine what came into the policy-making realm.

(CROSSTALK)

CRESSEY: And, if this is accurate, then this is a case where it wasn`t shared.

GREGORY: Right.

(CROSSTALK)

GREGORY: Kristen, isn`t--isn`t--isn`t the sad truth about all of this, as Roger points out, there are so many clear, glaring examples of information not being shared from the left to the right hand of the government, that this would be just another incredibly sad and devastating example of that, or do you think this is something completely unique?

BREITWEISER: You know, David, I think this takes the threshold beyond another mishap.

You`ve got situations with the CIA failing to give information to the FBI. You have testimony from FBI agents saying that everything that possibly could have gone wrong went wrong. I think we`ve passed the point of this being an institutional failure. These were failures on behalf of certain individuals.

It is startling to me to think that, if this operation did in fact occur, that someone with Roger Cressey`s credentials in his position didn`t know about it. I would like to know what level of secrecy this operation was carried out under.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8925092/

<http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/8/26/113210/364>

[wli]

1. protected drug trafficking... no big surprises n/t

[autorank]

5. I'm dying of curiosity here. tell us more

:freak:

[wli]

8. google Mohammed Atta heroin trafficking n/t

[seemslikeadream]

2. COVER ATTA'S FACE WITH POST IT NOTES Schoomaker & Zelikow

http://www.gsnmagazine.com.nyud.net:8090/images/aug_05/atta.jpg

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1727804

[shraby]

6. Kristen's alert button has been pushed,

she'll push this until it breaks.

[autorank]

3. OK shraby, you're on top of this. Why was the info withheld?

I've seen a couple of other posts so you're thinking about this, it seems. The comments are mind blowing:

CRESSEY: And, Kristen, let me say that, if this information is correct, the real--the central issue is, why was it not shared with the counterterrorism policy community?

(CROSSTALK)

CRESSEY: Because that was where this could be acted upon.

Who didn't want it "acted upon" and why? Inquiring minds want to know.

[shraby]

9. I have been following it on dailykos

but haven't done any investigating myself. I just think it's odd that they would not pass on info to the FBI to keep an eye on a known bad guy. That's what the FBI is for. They've been doing a pretty good job on dailykos about digging.
I've been bringing it here in case there are more who want to dig.

[Frederik]

19. General Shoomaker

who was hauled out of retirement by Rumsfeld to replace Shinseki as Army chief of staff.

[AllyCat]

4. After reading the Sibel Edmonds article in Vanity Fair (Sept, 2005)

I am really beginning to believe MIHOP. Edmonds's story really puts into light the extent that the FBI was willing to let things slide that were clearly security issues and it almost seems COORDINATED in who knew what when and who got fired from what area.

There may be an element of truth to the accusations that the FBI didn't want to admit it made mistakes in hiring, appointments, and what not, but that cannot be the only reason for the major, major "mistakes" that happened leading up to 9/11.

[wli]

10. Indira Singh's testimony before Cynthia McKinney is quite damning

Download those videos while you still can.

[ewagner]

11. Bingo

covering up incompetence only goes so far.

If that's all they were trying to cover up they would have broken down and admitted by now and fired a BUNCH of people.

But that's not what has happened.

Instead, the whistleblowers have been fired and the people who were so obviously incompetent are promoted or rewarded.

Something is amiss here.

I'm trying not to go tinfoil but it's getting harder and harder....

[AllyCat]

17. Don't think it's tin-foil hat anymore...it's logic.

Why on earth did they go to such great lengths, including putting a gag order on Edmonds to cover up basic incompetence? It just doesn't add up and her story tells us there were people higher up on the food chain who knew exactly what they were covering.

[Roxy66]

7. So, who do you think is at fault here?

[bribri16]

12. I said before, we have a renegade government running things

and even some in Congress and the President don't know what is going on but you can rest assure that some major PNAC-players know exactly what is happening and what to let happen.

We all need to take another look at "Clear and Present Danger."

[understandinglife]

13. A few aspects of the reports Booman23, TopDog , & Sherlock Google ....

... have posted at dKos I'm just going to summarize here:

1 For starters, I think all of you likely saw this flash animation called "Buddy," but whether you've seen it or not, I suggest you watch it now: http://www.bushflash.com/buddy.html

2 The three 'kossacks' listed above have posted a series of analyses:

The Failings of the 9/11 Commission

http://booman23.dailykos.com/story/2005/8/20/17011/4512

Confirmed: Able Danger ID of Atta before Bushco Shut it Down

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/8/23/134727/558

Rice aide hid disbandment of Atta's trackers from 9/11 report

http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/8/23/20200/6070

Must Read! The Neo-Con Able Danger Scandal -- Atta Coverup! UPDATE 5

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/8/24/124834/678

Shaffer lawyer: Army ordered documents destroyed in '03

http://topdog08.dailykos.com/story/2005/8/26/5437/92817

In the current diary referenced in shraby's OP, Sherlock Google posts a terse summary which, in all fairness, I'm not going to cut and paste here. Just click the link:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/8/26/113210/364

As an extension to a quite important discussion in autorank's OP, entitled "American Legion and DailyKOS Agree – “Like Minded”"(http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4460551)

you may find these caveats offered by Sherlock Google at the end of the diary of interest:

Folks, we need a timeline here, and our own Democratic investigation of 9-11 with Shaffer and Clarke and Philpott testifying.

And for all trolls and Ratherized Gun-shy Kossacks who are scared to death of LIHOP theories, no tinfoil hat required here!!

Just put on your Cressey Thinking Cap instead!

Please read the earlier diaries BEFORE you start posting foolish stuff about Shaffer being a liar or that there was no ID of Atta in 2000. All that has already been debunked.

No matter how all the details fall into place, we have ample reason to anticipate that the emergent picture will be among the ugliest in the history of America; a picture architected and painted by extraordinary avarice and total disregard for humanity.


Peace.

[seemslikeadream]

15. DO THE MATH

THERE MUST HAVE BEEN A MILITARY ORDER

[Armstead]

14. Your headline is confusing

"Clinton, Clarke NEVER TOLD about ATTA & Gang being in US!!"

should that be:
"Clinton, Clarke WERE NEVER TOLD about ATTA & Gang being in US!!" ?

[shraby]

16. I copy/pasted the title from dailykos.

saves typing. :7

[Nothing Without Hope]

18. Could this be creeping slowly closer to realization of LIHOP or MIHOP by

the Bush Administration? I keep hoping...

[mom cat]

20. Of course they had to try and blame Clinton...Surprise!

[seemslikeadream]

21. Third Source Backs 'Able Danger' Claims About Atta

Third Source Backs 'Able Danger' Claims About Atta
Saturday, August 27, 2005

WASHINGTON — A third person has now come forward to verify claims made by a military intelligence unit that a year before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, it had information showing that lead hijacker Mohamed Atta (search) and other terrorists were identified as being in the United States.

J.D. Smith, a defense contractor who claims he worked on the technical side of the unit, code-named "Able Danger" (search), told reporters Friday that he helped gather open-source information (search), reported on government spending and helped generate charts associated with the unit's work. Able Danger was set up in the 1990s to track Al Qaeda activity worldwide.

"I am absolutely positive that he was on our chart among other pictures and ties that we were doing mainly based upon cells in New York City," Smith said.

Smith said data was gathered from a variety of sources, including about 30 or 40 individuals. He said they all had strong Middle Eastern connections and were paid for their information. Smith said Able Danger's photo of Atta was obtained from overseas.
more
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,167130,00.html





DO THE MATH

THERE MUST HAVE BEEN A MILITARY ORDER
http://www.bushflash.com/buddy.html