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Fri Aug-26-05 01:33 PM
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Trying to behave like a Christian and not talking about it constantly |
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What is that called ? Not being a hypocrite ? That's what I try to do. I'm sure no "model Christian" but at least I'm trying in my own quiet way, unlike the idiotic hypocrites who proclaim their faith so loudly.
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Fri Aug-26-05 01:35 PM
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1. I think it's called living your faith by example. |
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Or as I used to hear, Living with love and in a Christlike manner. You're doing good! Way to go!
Blessings.
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Fri Aug-26-05 01:36 PM
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2. Or doing it the Fred Rogers way |
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Fri Aug-26-05 01:38 PM
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And the land of make believe was symbolic of heaven.
Wait. I don't think I have enough acid for this dissertation.
Oh noez.
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Fri Aug-26-05 03:07 PM
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Fri Aug-26-05 01:36 PM
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3. I find that is is usually the ones who are proclaiming their faith loudly |
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are the most hypocritical. Back when the Iraq war was just starting, a guy at church who was boasting about how good a Christian he and his wife were until I point out to him that running around bragging about the terrorist deck of cards went against true Christ like qualities.
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Fri Aug-26-05 01:37 PM
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having sex with your daughter before you drop her off at the Evangelical bible study class on Wednesday night on your way to the titty bar?
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Fri Aug-26-05 01:38 PM
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I would have laughed but I had pizza in my mouth |
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Fri Aug-26-05 01:38 PM
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6. he who is without sin cast the first stone |
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Fri Aug-26-05 01:38 PM
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However, I see more Christian-baiting than proselytizing around here. Of course, I don't see everything, so I could be missing what you're referring to.
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Fri Aug-26-05 01:38 PM
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8. What's so hard about that? |
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You just live up to your values, principals, and morals, regardless whether anyone applauds or boos you. It's a hard life man, and a lot have walked it.
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Fri Aug-26-05 01:41 PM
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10. It's not. I just have no respect for the ones who have to talk constantly |
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Fri Aug-26-05 01:43 PM
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14. I don't understand you. |
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Fri Aug-26-05 01:46 PM
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Edited on Fri Aug-26-05 01:46 PM by steve2470
1- Exhibit A: Guy who goes to church every Sunday, runs Bible Study every Wednesday night, and then cheats his customers Monday through Friday and treats his employees like crap.
2- Exhibit B: Guy (or woman, makes no difference) who does not go to church, never talks about his or her faith, but who tries hard to live as Christ did. He or she is an excellent person albeit a very quiet one.
Does this clarify my point ?
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Fri Aug-26-05 01:49 PM
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16. about them, don't forget |
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Frantic orthodoxy is never rooted in faith but in doubt. It is when we are unsure that we are doubly sure.
Reinhold Niebuhr US Protestant theologian (1892 - 1971)
I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do because I notice it always coincides with their own desires.
Susan B Anthony reformer and suffragist (1820-1906) (and Quaker, btw)
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Fri Aug-26-05 01:40 PM
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9. You would not be a good Christian. |
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Evidently, the primary purpose is to recruit others. If you do not talk about it incessently, and pass out those little comic books, then wouldn't you be missing the mark?
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Fri Aug-26-05 01:41 PM
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11. What does "Christian" mean? |
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That's the crux. Cherry-pick the Bible and any position from killing heretics to keeping slaves to living communally are all Christian.
Fred Phelps is sure he's the only Christian in the world because he's found passages in the christian magic book that tell him to kill gays.
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Fri Aug-26-05 01:41 PM
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12. my signature line on another site which had too many bible thumpers was: |
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"Don't tell me you're a Christian, let me figure it out for myself."
They left me alone.
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Fri Aug-26-05 01:42 PM
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Fri Aug-26-05 02:58 PM
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33. How do you know that was the reason? Maybe they just didn't |
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Fri Aug-26-05 03:23 PM
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well, yeah, could of been that too.
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Fri Aug-26-05 01:50 PM
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17. I have faith... that this thread will burst into an inferno |
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Fri Aug-26-05 01:52 PM
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18. Isn't that what you're supposed to do? |
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Do unto others in kindness and don't flap your gums abvout it, live by example.
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Fri Aug-26-05 01:56 PM
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5 When you pray, you are not to be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and on the street corners so that they may be seen by men Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full.
6 But you, when you pray, go into your inner room, close your door and pray to your Father who is in secret, and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you.
Matthew 6:5,6
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Fri Aug-26-05 02:04 PM
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20. Constantinian vs. Prophetic |
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"Back during Roman rule, when the growth of Christianity couldn't be stopped, the Roman empire co-opted it. With Constantine's conversion, a terrible co-joining of church and state was institutionalized from which the religion and many of it's victims, especially Jews, have suffered ever since. Constantinian Christianity has always been at odds with the prophetic legacy of Jesus Christ".
Cornel West (Democracy Matters)
The fudi-mental Christians in this country are Constantinian Christians, and are at odds with the teachings of Yashua. No matter how you feel about Yashua, you have to admit no other being on this Earth has influenced mankind to the likes of J.C. His beatitudes rock, and if we go about practicing them in a humble way, the world will be a better place.
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Fri Aug-26-05 02:14 PM
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21. "...no other being on this Earth has influenced mankind to the |
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likes of J.C."
I don't know. I'd call it a three-way tie, with Mohammed and the Buddha.
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Fri Aug-26-05 02:20 PM
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The other two did have a lot of influence on mankind, equally so.
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Fri Aug-26-05 02:26 PM
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For good and ill as with the other 3.
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Fri Aug-26-05 02:36 PM
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Wasn't he the one with 400 wives, across his empire? Could literally be called the "Father of Eastern Europe".
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Fri Aug-26-05 02:26 PM
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Fri Aug-26-05 02:15 PM
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22. Yes. Constantianian vs. Prophetic is preferable to Paulist vs. Christian |
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The legacy of St. Paul is mixed (far too many DUers overlook the good he did); Emperor Constantine, on the other hand, was a butcher and tyrant, who converted to the faith out of political expediency. By wedding the persona of Christ to the unholy state, Constantine inflicted a wound that has festered for some seventeen hundred years.
And "Democracy Matters" is a wonderful book; West's admiration for Emerson was particularly touching.
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Fri Aug-26-05 02:27 PM
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"Constantine himself seems to have converted to Christianity partly out of political strategy and imperial exigency, and then proceeded to use the cloak of Christianity for his own purposes of maintaining power".
Ominous parallels wouldn't you say, just like the Constantinian Chimp!
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Fri Aug-26-05 02:44 PM
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30. History may very well place Bush in a very insidious pantheon |
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Bush is the kind of zealot hatched out of Dostoevsky and Twain's "Letters from the Earth": a big league X-tian, in the vein of Constantine, Innocent III, and Cromwell. "A wolf in sheep's clothing" does not do justice to #43.
The sooner we Christians deal with these Constantinians, the better.
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Fri Aug-26-05 02:22 PM
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24. That's the way Christ and the apostles did it. |
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Fri Aug-26-05 02:26 PM
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26. far too many "christians" out there giving christians a bad name |
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fred, jerry, pat and shrub to start. how about just setting a good example and love one another as you would want to be loved. that is the basic message of most faiths.
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Fri Aug-26-05 02:48 PM
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or, after watching the sixths sense,
"I see live people"....
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Fri Aug-26-05 05:16 PM
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36. Paraphrasing from the Book of Matthew: |
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...and when you pray, stand not on the street corners, like the hypocrites do, for they love to be seen, rather, when you pray, go into your closet, and pray in private, and you shall be heard.
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