This is really weird (just pulled it off of CPH website)--verify?

[Horse with no Name]

About 3 weeks ago was surfing some of the sites I enjoy posting on, when someone posted in all caps that they had just heard from an officer friend in the military that all leaves had been cancelled for the month of September. Obviously aware of the false flags our government is famous for, this person sounded desperate, asking for help in confirming or denying this "rumor" from anyone who had connections in the military. I happened to ask a co-worker friend of mine whose son in-law is in the Army (82nd) about checking out the "rumor". Well guess what, they've had to move up their leave to this coming week to come home because his unit has to be back by September 7th. where upon all leaves are cancelled! They have seen a steady build up of heavy materials just sitting in storage facilities. He also commented that they were rushed through a training course on new weapons systems they just rolled out. He thought this very odd and a first. This sent shivers all through me. Not to push any panic buttons I spoke with a dear woman with whom I work whose son is in the Army in an artillery unit. She is a former Captain, her husband is a former Colonel and Vietnam vet and successful attorney here in our area who also happens to be dying from the effects of Agent Orange. Lo and behold their son was told all leaves are cancelled for September and in December they may get leave, but can travel no further than 17 kilometers from their base. My niece is married to a young man in the Army stationed on the East Coast he is also 82nd, his leave has also been cancelled. Their first baby is due in December. Leland, I'm not prone to fits of paranoia but I have to tell you, I have begun stocking water and canned goods. I am ex Air Force, I was on three ring standby most of my enlistment and was in a constant training mode. I know how this works and it doesn't sound good. The draft board offices are in place with staff waiting for the word to go. I read an article from a guy who works in one of those offices, he said Homeland Security came in there early last month and put up bullet proof glass on the windows and iron bars, they installed blast proof glass on the doors, and removed the mail drop box slots on the outside of the building. When he asked what was going on they identified themselves as Homeland Security and said don't worry about the rest and left. It's coming no doubt about it. Sorry I can't be more positive, but this is what I have heard with my own ears from three independent military member
sources in different parts of the country.

[mzteris]

1. not a good sign

Maybe bush has been spending August being drilled in what he is supposed to say, how he is supposed to act (surprised/presidential, etc....)

Stocking up might not be a bad idea. I don't trust these f@ckers for sh*t....... and I usually don't talk that way....

They truly scare me.

[seemslikeadream]

2. What's CPH please?

Thanks

:hi:

[Horse with no Name]

3. Sorry

Crawford Peace House.

[seemslikeadream]

4. Oh duh me!

Thanks again

[dogday]

5. I am scared

I am scared to death. Good thing to pack the water and can goods, whatever you might need. I had heard that leave was canceled for that month, it was on another thread and someone else thought it was weird as well

[Solly Mack]

6. We have the entire month of September for leave

We take off on the 28th (tomorrow) and don't come back until October.

My friend in the states goes on block leave (meaning the entire company goes) at the end of September until the end of November.

So while some units may have had leave cancelled due to pending deployments, as does happen quite often, it's not wide spread.

[Horse with no Name]

7. Well that is good to know

This OP seemed very desperate.
I'm just selfish. I want to see my brother and his wife during the holidays.

[Solly Mack]

18. I asked around last week when this first came to my attention

and got nothing back confirming it. I'll ask again though.

[doublethink]

43. Here's the only info I found on leave being canceled .....

but the article doesn't state where the author got the information? And it focused on South America ....

All US military leave has been canceled ... something big is in the works!

THE INTERNATIONAL FORECASTER editor Bob Chapman writes: The US military is building a new base and conducting secretive operations in Paraguay ... our Embassy there refuses to acknowledge a base exists and describes the military activity as routine.

The base is in Mariscal Estigarribia, 200 km (127 miles) from the Bolivian border and will handle large aircraft and accommodate 16,000 troops.

There are now 500 of our troops there with planes, weapons, equipment and ammunition. Either before, during, or after the coming presidential election we expect the US to intervene or better put, invade Bolivia to control its natural gas reserves. -snip-

All military leaves for September and October have been cancelled ... something big is in the works ... there is a buildup of material and equipment ... personnel at draft board offices are waiting for the word to activate. -snip- :shrug:

rest of article here ... http://www.vheadline.com/readnews.asp?id=45597

[JDPriestly]

13. Thanks for your input.

It is easy to draw false conclusions from very limited information, and only three reports is just too little.

[Solly Mack]

16. Welcome.

The military tells so many lies, it's understandable to question anything and everything about them.

[rosesaylavee]

14. Thanks Solly.

I think we need to get all the facts before we give in to a nameless fear.

Come on everybody. Buck up. Or as FDR said 'All we need fear is fear itself.' See how infectious it is? Stop it already.

:think:

[Solly Mack]

19. Welcome, rosesaylavee

I actually checked with our main theatre command when I first heard about this and nada....

[Usrename]

24. The fear is'nt nameless, it 's the White House that scares me.

nobody knows what they'll do do next - it's horrible

[lonestarnot]

32. Thank you for this information.... I've been hearing this rumor in many

places.

[Mnemosyne]

8. Did you write this?

I remember reading these words almost word for word somewhere recently.
Is this from the site you enjoy?

[Horse with no Name]

10. I put in my title that I pulled it off the CPH website

so no, I did not write it, nor did I take credit for it.
And yes, I do enjoy the Crawford Peace House site.

[Mnemosyne]

15. I just remember reading this

lately, must have been the Crawford Peace House site.
Just woke up, got confused, sorry.
Going to see if I can find link. It was debunked here in the last week or so.

Peace.

[Horse with no Name]

20. Thanks.

I had seen something along these lines before, however, wasn't sure what the final consensus was.
This was newly posted today...very curious.

[Mnemosyne]

22. Haven't been able to find the link,

If I come across it will send it on if you'd like.
Sure that I read it and it bothered me, but some military family's posted as untrue.
I sure wouldn't put anything past them though. Not anymore.

[JDPriestly]

9. How many times have they canceled leaves in the last five years?

That would indicate how serious this is. Maybe they are expecting something, maybe they are just testing how it would be to have to respond very quickly to serious, coordinated terrorist attacks. Maybe they think we will be attacked; maybe they are planning to go on the offensive again. In spite of all the rumors about attacking Iran, I am skeptical because I haven't heard enough of a drum roll to justify going in there. Bush and friends are losing support for their Iraq action. Going into Iran without having first acquired a lot of public support would be disastrous. Maybe this has something to do with the finalization of the Iraqi Constitution. Maybe they expect trouble. Maybe they expect trouble as a result of having released all the Sunni prisoners today.

The bit about the bulletproofing of the draft board station is not meaningful. They are doing the same thing to post offices and other public buildings in L.A. That's pretty routine.

The only indication that I can see that we might have a terrorist attack is the fact that Bush's numbers are down and a demonstration is planned in D.C. on 09/24. The numbers were down right before 9/11 and that was also the date or close to the date that the newspapers were supposed to announce the results of their recount of the votes in the Florida 2000 election -- which showed Gore won. Then of course there were the terrorist attacks in London which (mercifully?) just happened to occur fairly soon after Blair's party was embarrassed in elections. If there is another terrorist attack in the next months, I'm going to seriously wonder what is going on.

[tlsmith1963]

12. The Timing of These Terrorist Attacks...

...really make me wonder who is *really* behind them.:scared: :scared: :scared:

Tammy

[wli]

21. No need to wonder. They're clearly false flag.

After all, why didn't they ever bother investigating who actually did them?

[Polemicist]

26. Higher troop levels in Iraq due to pending voting....

by referendum on the new Iraqi Constitution in October, is likely the reason for cancelled or rescheduled leaves for some units. I have heard DOD will be increasing US troop levels in Iraq by some 10,000 soldiers during this period.

[Usrename]

28. Agree, the lower his poll numbers sink the wilder my imagination gets.

[NVMojo]

11. Bush is fucking up the lineup to ready it for IRAN.

I hate to write what I'm thinking...

[seemslikeadream]

17. Unidentified “spy drone” crashes in western Iran

Sat. 27 Aug 2005



Iran Focus

Tehran, Iran, Aug. 27 - An unmanned plane crashed after hitting a mountain in western Iran, according to government officials in the Iranian capital.

The plane crashed in the Alashtar Mountains in Lorestan Province, Ali-Asghar Ahmadi, the Deputy Minister of the Interior for security affairs, told reporters on Saturday.

“We have received a report about an unmanned plane crashing into the mountains in this region”, Ahmadi said, without any further elaboration.

Ahmadi did not identify the origin of the drone or its intended mission, diverting questions to the Ministry of Intelligence and Security and the Supreme National Security Council.

Officials in the two security agencies were not available for comment, but an official in the governor’s office in Lorestan Province, contacted by telephone, said the Revolutionary Guards units had secured the site of the crash where “the spy drone hit a mountain”.

http://www.iranfocus.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=3499


DO THE MATH

24 MINUTES

THERE MUST HAVE BEEN A MILITARY ORDER
http://www.bushflash.com/buddy.html

[nashville_brook]

23. what's the significance of 24 minutes?

i think i'm missing something.

[Usrename]

36. They (the White House) left the door open

Under Clinton at least three military exercises were performed to develop an appropriate military response to prevent events like 9/11.

In two of these exercises the twin towers were actually simulated targets. I'm pretty sure the first exercise in the mid 90's was a total fiasco. Nothing was integrated between the FAA and military components of the exercise. Supposedly, it was a mess. But they worked on the scenario at least two more times and left in place (for the incoming administration) a response team that coud react to such a threat in 10 minutes.

Also, anti-aircraft artillery weapons were installed atop the Pentagon by Clinton to respond to threats of highjackings during the Atlanta Olympics. (was that in 1996?) I don't know where, but it has been reported that the AAA pieces were not ever removed during Clinton's watch.

[lonestarnot]

33. Now this is NOT good news!

[Usrename]

34. Awesome download

[Nothing Without Hope]

25. I and another person heard about this but were unable to find any

confirmation or documentation. It may be just a scary rumor.

[nashville_brook]

29. i just found this on a discussion board about the weather of all things

"from CNN millitary leaves are being cancelled for all servicemem east of the mississipi"

[Nothing Without Hope]

31. That could well have to do with the expected landfall of the hurricane.

Very scary, but not clear that this is related to an Iran attack or other neocon plot. As I noted someplace else in this thread, here's the place to go to get the info and links on the Iran attack situation, which looks very scary indeed;

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2037110&mesg_id=2041010
Thread title: All the pieces are on the board, folks....time to get worried.

The military leave rumor is mentioned in the OP, but people were unable to confirm it - so far - later.

[Nothing Without Hope]

27. Here's a thread on why we should be nervous about the neocons' plans to

invade Iran:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2037110&mesg_id=2041010
Thread title: All the pieces are on the board, folks....time to get worried.

That cancelled leave rumor is mentioned in the OP, and then later in the replies the poster says they checked around and could find no confirmation. I tried many google variations and found nothing either.

Lots of good reasons to be worried and publicize why the bugnuts Bush cabal needs to be stripped of the power to invade at their whim, but this leave cancelling does look like a rumor.

[OneBlueSky]

30. the scenario is directly from "The Longest Yard" . . .

which, I'm sure, Bush has watched many times . . .

after nailing an opponent in the crotch with a forward pass from about three feet, Burt Reynolds goes back to the huddle and says "if it worked once, it will work again" (or something like that) . . . then he calls the exact same play, with the exact same results . . .

my hunch is that BushCo is thinking "if it worked once, it will work again" . . .

I'm therefore expecting a domestic "terrorist" attack of major proportions sometime this fall . . . it will somehow be connected to Iran, which will then suffer the same fate at Iraq in the early days -- a constant barrage of "shock and awe" bombings of military installations, nuclear facilities, and cities . . .

if it worked once, it will work again . . . or will it? . . .

[The Straight Story]

35. Here might be some useful info on all this (well some)

The Air Force has enacted 'stop loss' for the next 30 days (but with
enough loopholes so that anybody they want to get rid of or anybody
who really wants out can be separated).

The Navy has announced 'stop loss' for a few specific MOSs.

There is no 'mass' cancellation of leave. (Specific units have
canceled leave.)

If an announcement is made that leave is canceled you should report to
your new duty station. (If unable to get to your new duty station
_call_ (do not go to) a local military installation to request
transportation assistance.)

http://groups.google.com/group/us.military.army/browse_thread/thread/13fef004231ff3/5339fee7b1a99e02?lnk=st&q=military+leave+canceled&rnum=2&hl=en#5339fee7b1a99e02

Not sure how reliable the info is there, but worth a look.

[nonny]

38. Link -- message from Sept. 25, 2001 n/t

[redacted]

44. Isn't that from Sept. 25, 2001?

[Hissyspit]

37. 82nd Airborne getting deployed in Iraq.

Some going now, I believe. Others to be deployed for a couple of months (supposedly) to shore up troops for the referendum.

Asked some of my students if they were going, and they said they didn't know, but that they were training like mad. Lots of irregular air traffic around Ft. Bragg again recently.

[ooglymoogly]

39. still and all...what does it hurt to stockpile some water and canned

goods...september and october are scary months with this crowd in office.....and DUCT TAPE

[Generic Other]

40. Since they have been planning an Iran attack, we shouldn't be surprised

In the months before Iraq, the press drummed up support for the war in spite of 70% of Americans opposing the idea. They had to start a PR offensive to prepare us for shock and awe.

Seems as if they have been doing this to Iran for months. We are being prepped for a plan that is already in the works whether we agree or not.

This is probably when they plan to invade.

[sunnystarr]

41. Right now it looks like the increase is for the

referendum on the Iraq constitution in October and the voting to take place in December, which would be logical. They're concerned about a Sunni uprising and civil war (which I thought was already going on).

Let's not get worried until it's time. However, considering the volatility of this admministration it would be a good idea to be stocked for emergencies.

[FreedomAngel82]

42. I heard about this a little while ago

There is a lot of fishy things going on indeed and very scary. I don't trust this government at all and wouldn't put anything past them. Something is up for sure and they are blood thirsty and oil thirsty for Iran and probably Syria. They tried to go there but it didn't work and they could do it again I'm sure. I heard about this rumor but it seems more confirmed I think. I remember a while back there were "rumors" of the Pentagon going to pull out troops in 2006 but the Pentagon for a good while denied it and a few weeks ago on CNN's scroll I read on a Sunday that they were planning it. (flip-flop) And then earlier this month on Malloy's show there was someone who told of a rumor to gas NYC. :\ And remember entering Iraq and the war build up happened in sync with the 2002 midterms. So they do have plans for 2006.