Please contact CNN about misrepresentation of Sheehan Camp Casey...

[WiseButAngrySara]

Everything that I've heard today has slanted the numbers of protestors in favor of the anti-Sheehan, Pro-Bush group, and has never mentioned the fact that these groups are, in part, funded by the RNC. Below is my letter of error/complaint, with a direct link to that complaint form.


http://www.cnn.com/virtual/editions/europe/2000/roof/change.pop/frameset.exclude.html

CNN Error Report

Ed Lavendera has at best, distorted the truth, and at worst, is a blatant liar. He reports that the numbers are roughly equivalent at Camp Casey and the so-called pro-Bush Pro-War team. The first time that I watched this event covered today, the only photos and chants in the backgound were Pro-War, and it gave an illusion of what is actually occuring there at Camp Casy. Check out the internet yourselves! You are supposed to be covering the news, which is the truth; you are not licensed to make it up as you go along! Lavendera has failed to mention AND CNN HAS REPEATEDLY FAILED TO MENTION THAT THIS PRO BUSH GROUP IS FUNDED BY THE RNC! Yet, the Cindy Sheehan Group is constantly linked with Moveon.org. and M. Moore, two groups that are repeatedly blasted by the so-called LIBERAL press of CNN. You are truly revolting. That you should represent your news organization as bearers of the truth has NEVER been more revolting to me, although I gave you a second chance after the non-election of 2004. You are Pro-War; Pro-Bush and Pro-DEATH! Your failure to adequately disclose, discuss and address the lies of this current neo-con administration that has resulted in the deaths of thousands of innocents, and has only profited Halliburton and other big companies in the Military Industrial Complex, makes you guilty of sins of omission and sins of lying and hypocricy. I will NEVER watch you again, and I promise you that many friends and family members will not either.

[Al-CIAda]

1. CNN- SEND US YOUR FEEDBACK

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[WiseButAngrySara]

2. Thanks Al-CIAda (i laugh everytime I read your name!) I take it you

have responded. Does my letter/complaint sound OK?

[Al-CIAda]

20. Your letter is wonderful, good job! -nt

[WiseButAngrySara]

22. That brought a smile to my face! Thanks.....n/t

[cbear70]

3. thanks

sent them an email. so tired of this bullshit.

[WiseButAngrySara]

6. I am SO tired of it also...to the point of wanting to cry! How can these

liars live with themselves? Thanks for e-mailing!

[autorank]

4. I'll go for "and at worst, is a blatant liar." re Ed Lavendera

They are so finished.

CNN hates its viewers.

It shows contempt for them by censoring the material they view.

It mind-fucks them by claiming to be objective.

It pretends to be journalism when it's just propaganda.

It won't communicate with its viewers when they send in queries (other than the auto generated reply).

When you've got an organization that shows contempt for its customers, lies to them, mind fucks them and won't communicate, you can be sure they're not long for prime time.

N.B. Daniel Schorr was the first news director when Ted Turner started CNN. Turner got Schorr because he was a great news guy but also because it was well known that Dan Schorr never took shit from "management." This established the initial tone of CNN and gave Turner instant credibility in the news biz...how low they have sunk (Walter Isaacson indeed!).

[tlsmith1963]

11. I Used to Be Such a News Junkie...

...I would constantly watch CNN. No more. I watch my anime DVDs more than I watch CNN, or MSNBC for that matter (I *never* watch FOX)! At least Cowboy Bebop is more entertaining...heh.:P

Tammy

[WiseButAngrySara]

17. PLEASE let you be right about this!!!!

"When you've got an organization that shows contempt for its customers, lies to them, mind fucks them and won't communicate, you can be sure they're not long for prime time."

[autorank]

41. Well, here's the good news...

CNN has an average of 400-500 thousand viewers a day at key hours. That's the combined population of Dayton and Toledo OH or something thereabouts. Great cities, and Toledo has America's best news paper but...CNN spends a bunch of money all over the world. They spend for "talent" Paula etc. too. 500K viewers doesn't get much ad revenue. So right now, CNN is what's called a "loss leader," they give the whole Time-Warner deal prestige (in Time's view) but not much else. It's the same with Fox. They've got 1.2 million viewers (but the Fox people actually watch much shorter durations than CNN viewers). Even this number doesn't get you much. It's like being the most popular TV station in DC-Baltimore metro...hell, I don't even watch local news there and couldn't tell you who that local would be. The Fox folks are not making any money either. For them it's a propaganda operation. When The Simpson's mocked Fox news, the head of Fox News and O'Liely threatened to sue Fox Entertainment (huge revenue). The Entertainment people just laugh ted at them in public and didn't say a thing to The Simppson's writers. That's how important Fox News, a public dissing by a sister company.

Rejoice, none of the cale operations are making money. MS and C /NBC are much worse.

Nobody cares, they're dead financially, they just don't know when to fall over.

[WiseButAngrySara]

47. I just discovered your wonderful response! These statistics are

amazing though! I would have expected MANY more viewers. I can see how they're not making money, but they can't be making that influence either, which is what I worry about. Thanks. Wish I could help bury the liars!

[autorank]

48. They've urried themselves with their bias.

People just don't dig it, that's the bottom line. It's so funny to see these guys acting so important when they're at about the level of the Mary Tyler Moore show (that one about the TV station in Minneapolis).

Question time: who plays Ted Baxter on modern cable news networks?

[WiseButAngrySara]

49. Wolf Blitzkrieg? ROFL!........eom

[fooj]

5. I'm going to tell them that we plan on holding them accountable.

They can see fit to produce this BS propaganda...their day of reckoning is coming! Soon! Stay tuned.

Peace.

[w8liftinglady]

9. There ARE a lot of us

I imagine if cnn is flooded with >1000 emails,along with one or two of their sponsors(I'm thinking junk bond Ford and GM),they will pay attention.

[WiseButAngrySara]

10. I hope that you're right fooj! Peace back at ya!....n/t

[MelissaB]

7. Recommending because I'm pissed about the spin!

Spread the word. They need to hear from all of us.

[fooj]

Yep. It's ACCOUNTABILITY time!

Peace.

[WiseButAngrySara]

15. Thanks MelissaB...if you think its worth recommending, I guess I won't

feel guilty kicking it! Although this might have been posted elsewhere, so apologies if its redundant. I was so fuming angry, I just posted without checking.

[Al-CIAda]

23. .

:thumbsup:

[DoYouEverWonder]

8. Here's proof

Us:



Them:

[CTyankee]

12. Excellent!

The force is truly with us!

[eridani]

33. We need similar distance scales to be effective here

What about an equivalent distance shot of the pro-war folks?

[DoYouEverWonder]

37. Those pics are in scale

The freeper tent is much small and had a lot fewer people. Notice that the freeper picture is from the right edge of the tent and you can see the left side and the back.

It's hard to take a bigger picture of something that isn't that big to begin with.

[MelissaB]

13. This should be on the greatest. They need to hear from us.

:kick:

[fooj]

14. Just recommended!

Peace.

[lildreamer316]

16. Email sent. n/t

[WiseButAngrySara]

18. Thanks lildreamer....let's dream BIG!.........n/t

[Booster]

19. Sent them an email saying their news reports have become

totally irrelevant and I am removing them from my programming list. Stupid shits.

[WiseButAngrySara]

21. All right! The truth will set you free...but first will piss you off...so

good. I'm actually watching CNN again tonight, because of the re-run of "Dead Wrong"...saw it twice last weekend, and I was initially so ecstatic that they were covering it, I think I missed clues r.e. Tenet being made the fall guy (and maybe Powell too) But they don't need to know if I really NEVER watch them again. CNN lies to me, I'll lie right back without (much of ) a guilty conscience.

[Booster]

24. Good point. I haven't seen "Dead Wrong" yet, so will watch it

also - then on Monday I may or may not cancel their channel and, like you, I won't feel too bad about saying I would cancel, then changing my mind. hehehe

[WiseButAngrySara]

25. Hehehe! "Dead Wrong" is on now, here. Do watch it. Very good....n/t

[Viva_La_Revolution]

52. Do you think maybe they were trying to 'distract' us?

I know it's paranoid of me, but the hypocrisy is so blatant.

We were all so thrilled a few days ago when they ran Dead Wrong, and we all thought that we were making progress, and maybe cnn had turned against bushco. They re-ran it like 10 times this week.

The contrast really hit me yesterday... I caught a few hours of the bradshow, he was getting reports on the phone about how many people were there, and I caught the "Busses are arriving" and the "Rimjob is still lost" threads, so I knew the #'s. Then I flip on the tv, and here's this guy totally misrepresenting, and not even showing Cindy's camp!
Then they run Dead Wrong again. WTF?

[Gregorian]

27. Wow, almost like mine.

You used to do the news. Now you are just propaganda. And as such, you are irrelevant.

We think alike here at DU

[WiseButAngrySara]

26. Shameless kick, and Wow people! 5 votes! TU, and let's respond...

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[ewagner]

29. Did it....

sent pretty nasty, sarcastic note because I don't think they will listen to "constructive criticism".

[WiseButAngrySara]

32. Thanks ewagner...sometimes nasty is better...It's always better than

insidious lies and distortions.

[converted_democrat]

28. Done.......n/t

[Guy Fawkes]

30. Let it go...

The people on network news are just trying to get ratings. They'll say whatever it takes to get money.

[WiseButAngrySara]

36. If this were so, then you'ld think that they'd be a bit more sensitive to

the way the majority of Americans think right now. Most are opposed to the war. Most oppose Bush. And I'm not yet quite so cynical as to believe that most people would prefer lies to the truth.

[Skip Intro]

31. This CNN story says Camp Casey had more people -

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/27/crawford.rallies/index.html

About 1,000 Bush supporters -- more than the population of Crawford -- poured into the area for their rally. Many of them arrived in a caravan from California bearing the message: "You Don't Speak For Me, Cindy!"

The founder of Move America Forward, Howard Kaloogian, accused Cindy Sheehan, the sponsor of the anti-war protest, of encouraging the very insurgency in Iraq that killed her son.

"The terrorists that are watching Cindy Sheehan's protest believe that this is something that might topple the current administration." Kaloogian said. "And I have a question that I want the media to begin asking Cindy Sheehan: How many more American soldiers are going to die because you are giving hope and encouragement to our enemies?"

Across the road, more than 1,000 people showed up to support Sheehan, whose son Casey died in combat last year in Baghdad's Sadr City. She has been holding a vigil at a site dubbed Camp Casey in honor of her son near the Bush ranch since the president began his vacation there earlier this month. (Watch video of Sheehan's speech)

[WiseButAngrySara]

35. This is the same rhetoric they used last weekend, except it was

couched in terms of hundreds rather than thousands. If the pro-Bush group had 100 people there, they would have said less than 1,000, and if Cindy's group had 5,000 there, they would have reported it as more than 1,000. I've been listening to CNN since Cindy has been there, and I've read all of the threads (almost) on DU, and many elsewhere. CNN exagerates or outright lies. And they ALWAYS mention the numbers of the anti-group first, and then like its an afterthought, mention the anti-war numbers.

[Skip Intro]

39. I don't doubt it

I've kept up with many of the protests against invading Iraq, before and after shock and awe, and would see crap reported by corporate media that totally flew i the face of pics I was seeing here on DU and elsewhere. That is, when corporate media decided to even acknoledge the demonstrations of widespread dissent. Even Cspan tried to ignore it.

I don't doubt for a second that the same corp media is going to lie about events this time around. No doubt.

I had just read this thread about CNN spinning, then read that report that I posted, and it seemed fair - until I read your reply.

I haven't watched cnn since last November, almost a year. I avoid the website as well. I had forgotten just how deceptive they can be.

[WiseButAngrySara]

40. I'm glad you know how deceptive they are, and I wish that more people

did! Right after I responded to your post, I turned CNN back on (hurricane coverage, and a repeat later tonight of "Dead Wrong"), and they reported on the Sheehan and pro-Bush camps, stating that they had both turned out in large numbers!! Your post, BTW was more than fair, and I'm glad to have read it. I hope I didn't sound offensive, defensive or whatever....:smile:

[eridani]

34. Could someone get a reliable estimate of the numbers on both sides?

With link, and pictures of both groups taken from the same distance?

[WiseButAngrySara]

38. A most reasonable request...I'll try to find out the info. There were

several DU links on this subject earlier.

[moriverrat]

42. Shoot a copy of your letter..

to the advertisers, declaring that you will boycott their products as long as they financially support the network, and inform like-minded people of same. Finally, follow up on the network with copies of these letters, and your initial correspondence.

[WiseButAngrySara]

44. An excellent idea! But how to find out the advertisers? Is there a list

at CNN? Or just what I see when I have it on?

[Robbie Michaels]

43. Very Nice Letter!

I'll be sending them one myself, and I'm no longer going to watch them. Not even Headline news! The coverage they had at 4pm PST was misleading, at the very least. They showed what....30 people by the roadside protesting for Bush?

And that Howard Kaloogian? What a piece of work! According to his web site...

"Move America Forward is a non-partisan, not-for-profit organization committed to supporting America’s efforts to defeat terrorism and supporting the brave men and women of our Armed Forces."

http://www.moveamericaforward.org/index.php/MAF/FAQ#31

Bullshit! Non-partisan my ass!

[WiseButAngrySara]

45. K.O. mentioned their obvious link to the RNC on one of his shows at

the beginning of the week, and I kept waiting for CNN to report this, thinking that, well, they'd reported that Cindy had links with Moveon.org., etc. Thanks for sending them a letter Robbie. There are other misleading AP articles too 'thousands turned out, MOST were Pro-Bush; others for Sheehan.'

[WiseButAngrySara]

46. Kick!

:kick:

[anitar1]

50. What does it matter? Millions of us know they are liars,

as is their leader. This is just a huge push to destroy us and it will not work. Ignore the liars and go on.

[WiseButAngrySara]

51. If you really think that they are trying to destroy us by lies, then how

can you ignore them? I hate liars; especially those that purport to tell the truth as a living (much like the Pat Robertsons of the world; lying Christians and lying reporters...both should be oxymorons)

[WiseButAngrySara]

53. I received an e-mail response (NON-response) fromCNN...a standard

noncommittal JOKE of a response. Why bother, CNN?