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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 02:00 PM
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Talking Points Memo, the best part
Sorry about starting a dup thread, but I think the author of the other one should have included some quotes.

This is from talkingpointsmemo.com (Interview yesterday with Clark)This was a spoken interview, not from a chatroom. It took place in the backseat of a car headed from Dulles to the Capitol.

Highlights:
I was fortunate. I was well-enough known that both parties invited me to consider them. The Republican party invited me to participate in a fundraiser and run for Congress. The Democratic party invited me to be their nominee for governor of the state of Arkansas. I was tremendously honored by that. And it was clear as I looked at the parties, looked at the culture, watched the dialogue, it wasn't just that I had voted for Al Gore, I really believed in what the Democratic party stood for. And so when it came time to choose a political party, I chose the Democratic party.

But when you run it all through, it's really me. It's my views that have been shaped by a lifetime of public service, traveling across this country, putting a child through school, worried about how much--or how little--money I made, how to survive on very middle wages while moving every two or three years. The wife would come in and say, "Ah, the towels don't match the bathroom and you've got to buy new bathroom mats. And now what are we going to do for curtains? The curtain rods don't fit in this kind of the house." You know, all these expenses of moving on top of not making very much money. It's just a question of who you are.

I have strong views. I have strong feelings about what's right and what's wrong in the way of policy. I taught economics at West Point, I taught political philosophy. I worked in the South Bronx in 1966 for three or four weeks in the neighborhood youth corps as part of the Johnson administration's anti-poverty program. So I had seen urban poverty. I worked as a counselor at the Little Rock Boys' Club back in the late '50s, early '60s, ended my last staff member position at the Little Rock Boys' Club in 1965, meeting kids from not the most affluent backgrounds. You get a certain feeling for America. And that's the feeling for the America I know. That's the America I want to-you know, I want to give everyone in America equal opportunity, including those people that are like I grew up with.


THIS GUY IS SMART
And this administration comes in with an ideology that blocks its ability to see, articulate, and resolve those problems. It's an ideology that's a sharpened sort of right-wing Republican party ideology. It has no real intellectual base to it. It's just the ideology of a party. By intellectual base, I'm talking first, trickle-down economics. No reputable economist stands up and says, "Trickle down economics really works." Because we know the marginal propensity to consume of people who are making $100,000 a year and less is much higher than the marginal propensity to consume of people who are making $350,000 a year and more.

So therefore when you say you're going to give money to the rich so they'll make jobs for the poor -- that's not a very efficient way of producing jobs in the American economy. We know that, all things being equal, that the lower the tax rate at the margin, the greater the incentive to earn the extra dollar. But we also know -- it's just human nature to figure that out -- that in a society where you've got a lot of people that are struggling to pay the electricity bill and the telephone bill and you've got a few people who don't care what the electricity and telephone bill is, that the few people who don't care about these things ought to pay a higher proportion of their income to help the rest of the country than the people who are struggling with the necessities in life.




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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 02:02 PM
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1. He may be smart, but he's still not a Democrat
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 02:17 PM
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2. Yada yada
He's not a Democrat even though he's pro-choice, pro-labor, pro-environment, said he'd be willing to shrink the Pentagon budget....

The truth is, that the Dem Party is a bigger tent then the Republican party, and some people in my party (like myself) are a bit horrified by people who would try to shrink it down to some tiny minority.
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 02:45 PM
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6. Why did the Republicans want him?
When he had all those Democratic ideals and positions? Could it be because he told them that he thought Bush was the right guy for the job and that he liked the neo-cons and wanted to work with them again, and he raised money for Arkansas Republicans?

It is looking more and more like Clark was job-shopping after his retirement and is willing to tell each party what they want to hear. He's a Democrat* now because that's where he saw the best job opening.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 03:55 PM
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7. It's Kind Of Like Ahnuld And The Rethugs But In Parallel Universe.
Ahnuld isn't really a conservative and doesn't really stand for many Repug platform points. The repugs love him because he says he is one of them. Gen. Clark is a liberal who stands for most (if not all) of the Democratic platform. Some Democrats. hate him because he says he is one of us and they don’t trust him. I understand some Democrats FUD pertaining to Gen. Clark. I also think most of them will come around.

Jay
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SWPAdem Donating Member (951 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 04:09 PM
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9. Because they always assume
that the military belongs to them...and his beliefs were not widely known, at the time. Sheeeezzzzzzz
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boxster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 02:25 PM
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3. So, in other words, even though he believes in traditional Democrat issues
the fact that he's a little too busy to get to Arkansas to change his voter registration in a state where he can vote for himself in the primary ANYWAY is more important.

Ok. Got it. Just glad we're focusing on the important stuff here.
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Styles Donating Member (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 02:27 PM
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4. So? Hillary Clinton was a Republican!!!
Right up until she met Bill, she was a republican. It goes to show we all can do something stupid in life, then change directions and start doing the right thing.....

Clark has a lot of strong points to him, and he choose to run as a Democrat. If he can benefit the country, then he is worthy of my vote... if he associates with the Democratic party, then the party benefits from his association if he also benefits the country...

Geez... I hate to say it, but DUH!!!!!! Get over it....
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maha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 02:28 PM
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5. Well, maybe I'll decide YOU aren't a Democrat.
What the hell. It's my head; I'll put whatever I want in it.

This "he's not a Democrat" crap is, well, crap. Get over it.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 04:01 PM
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8. Amen, maha.
I'll make up my own mind. I do indeed read every single one of these threads, but remain a little dismayed at our attempts to eat our newest member.

As of 5:00 pm October 1st, 2003, I'm still planning to vote Clark.

:-)
Jennifer
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bicentennial_baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-01-03 04:10 PM
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10. Rock on Jen Jen!
Same here! :toast:
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