B**h Done Good, For Once

[BeFree]

He has recently placed in reserve millions upon millions of barrels of crude oil in underground caverns. There is more than enough oil to overcome a supply problem like that about to occur in the New Orleans region.

Now we will see if he releases those reserves, or will he hold them in order to prop up the coming price gouging that Faux news, et al, have been propagandizing.

Mr. Pretzeldented, Release Those Reserves!

[still_one]

1. he has already said he won't

he considers those only for emergency use

does he consider this an emergency?

[durablend]

3. No way

An emergency is Iran being 10 years away from finishing nookular weapons...that has to be stopped YESTERDAY

[still_one]

39. excellent point

[sinkingfeeling]

2. He's saving it for the Hum-Vees to be used in his next 3 wars!

[stellanoir]

4. bingo

[justgamma]

5. He has already said that the reserves there in case of a war. n/t

[HadItUpToHere]

6. Bush didn't start the strategic reserve-

that's been around for a LONG time.

[elehhhhna]

7. He's been packing it full so when we piss off ALL oil producing countries

there might be enough in stock for him to make his getaway.

[BeFree]

8. Hey,

I hate to place any praise upon the jerk, but he HAS recently filled those reserves - hence the "Done good for once". As I also said, we now will see if he uses those reserves to put an end to the supply problem propaganda being broadcast to the sheeple.

[pansypoo53219]

10. of course

BUT he did it when the prices were HIGH. therefore gouging america AGAIN.

[BeFree]

14. When prices were high?

My dear, prices are higher now, and getting higher every day. There have been calls for him to release the reserves to counter the rise in prices, and while I would agree with that, NOW is the time to release the oil to keep the propaganda about this hurricane from seeing fruit.

[leesa]

12. Ummm...he did it to make money for his buddies. Also, at current useage,

it's a dribble in a pot.

[BeFree]

22. Ummm

Clinton released some reserves and it drove prices down. It is not a mere dribble. It is a very substantial amount of petro... enough to counter any shortage that might be realized from this hurricane.

[HadItUpToHere]

17. he didn't fill it for use by the American people-

he topped it off to help his oily buddies, and it's only going to be used for military purposes, if necessary- as long as this crew is in charge.

[BeFree]

19. I don't care why he did it

All I know is: It is our oil, and I want the oil released in order to counter me being gouged even more. Now, if you are willing to just roll over for Dubya, that's your perogative, but don't expect me to help him have his way with you.

[HadItUpToHere]

24. ????

"roll over for dubya"???

what's that supposed to mean?

and YOU want the oil released to counter YOU being gouged...?

it must be nice to think that everything revolves around what YOU want.

[BeFree]

27. Yeah me and the rest of America

Don't want to be gouged. I will not silently endure the raping. Neither are you, it appears... you're shouting for more.

[HadItUpToHere]

46. still more ????

"...Neither are you, it appears... you're shouting for more."

huh?

i'm just not grokking to whatever it is you're apparently trying to say...any chance you might be able to just come out and say in plain english whatever it is that you seem to be trying to allude to? :shrug:

btw- opening the reserve won't help anything- when clinton did it, it was a different, and mostly temporary situation- the high prices we're seeing now are pretty much here to stay- world demand is outpacing the available supply.
-that being said- if the hurricane causes a supply disruption, the reserves may well be used to bolster the supply line- provided there's refinery capacity for it(i'm not that familiar with the new orleans area, and whether there are many refineries that might be affected/damaged/destroyrd by Katrina.

[leesa]

9. He made billions for his buddies by filling that reserve and has said he

will not open it. Why on earth would you think Bush's motives are good when it comes to fossil fuel issues. He filled it at top price...kaaaaching! We paid for it.

[On the Road]

11. I Agree Having the Reserves is a Good Thing

but notice that Bush is paying top dollar per barrel and increasing demand for oil during a price cruch. Whether by accident, design, or incompetence, that's only increasing the oil producers' profits.

[BeFree]

16. True

Some of the increase in prices was the result of the hoarding into the reserve. Whats done is done.

Now we shall see if in light of the coming emergency he does release some of those reserves.

If he doesn't, we have him over a barrel, if he does we pay a little less, eh?

[On the Road]

25. We'll See if Prices Really Do Continue to Rise

Personally, I think there's at least a 50-50 chance they'll decline for awhile.

[BeFree]

29. Personally, I do too....

...but what I have seen recently is another angle they are taking to jack the prices even higher, using the hurricane as a propaganda tool.

Well, a proper use of the reserve is during emergency times like these.

Mr. Pretzeldented, Release Those Reserves. We can't afford even higher prices!

[jimshoes]

13. I've heard those salt domes

are in the New Orleans area. Any chance they could be inundated with sea water? Would this contaminate all that oil? Just wondering.

[BeFree]

18. Good question

Oil floats on water since it is lighter. Too, the domes, by their configuration are somewhat isolated from water intrusions, otherwise they'd be full of water already.

The problem with NO is that it is, at ground level, below sea level by as much as ten feet with only a few dams holding back the water. Once those dams are breached it will be like filling up a great big empty bucket. The salt domes, in those terms, are like buckets with a lid on them.

[jimshoes]

45. I hope they have

the lids on tight. If 10 feet of water is a possibility and those reserves blow a lid there will be oil burbling up and floating around everywhere.

[lonestarnot]

15. Those are HIS reserves doncha know!

[BeFree]

20. No

The reserves belong to the American people.

Clinton released reserves and it drove prices down. Now we face an emergency... it is up to us to call for some relief.

[lonestarnot]

32. Oh but this is "His" USA doncha know!

[earth mom]

21. I was just about to post the EXACT same thing!

:toast:

[BeFree]

23. Wow

Someone else willing to just throw up their hands, eh?

[earth mom]

47. No, not throwing up my hands and giving up. No f-in way.

I just happen to live in reality and not in a dream world.

* does not give a rats a$$ about you, me or anybody but his buddies. Doing "good" is NOT his plan. As far as he is concerned, that oil is HIS!

[lonestarnot]

33. Got you going too I see! Well EVERYTHING is his doncha know!

[earth mom]

44. Ain't that the truth?!

[Media_Lies_Daily]

26. LOL!! Do you really think he's....

...going to allow civilians to use that reserve??

Don't you get it yet?

He doesn't care about the common folk, only those in the top 1%!

[BeFree]

28. Go ahead, throw up

...your hands and give in. The media lies daily about what is happening and you are gonna just throw up your hands?

[Splatter Phoenix]

30. Ahh...

You seem to miss the fact that if we could have done something about Bush handed-singled-ly, we'd've crushed him at the beginning of this false war.

Also, gas prices are predicted to get up to three bucks by Xmas, and show no signs of slowing. There's nothing we can do.

[BeFree]

31. "Nothing we can do" ??

That is what is wrong with America: "There is nothing we can do"

Thank heaven for people like Cindy Sheehan. There is something we can do. We are AmeriCANs.

[lonestarnot]

38. Nothing we can do my ARSE!

[durablend]

41. Hey, everyone you're complaining about is RIGHT

Everything revolves around King Georgie...he couldn't give TWO SHITS about anyone other than his "base" (the one with the $$$, NOT the "middle America" one).

Aside from the entire anti-Bush populace storming the WH with flaming torches and pitchforks, I don't see much of anything happening either where the reserves are concerned.

[BeFree]

43. Torches and pitchforks it is then, eh?

Or do we crawl into a hole and give up?

[senseandsensibility]

34. No he hasn't

* hasn't done anything good.

[BeFree]

37. Completely inadvertent, of course

The only way we can see the good from it is if he releases enough oil to keep prices moderated. Clinton did just that in his time in office and while I do not expect b**h to do anything willingly, if he can be pressured into a release, it will stem the gouging.

[tritsofme]

35. The oil reserves are routinely released during supply disruptions

caused by hurricanes.

He did it last year when huricaines struck the gulf, and people here wanted Kerry to "call him out" on "flip flopping" but is really just routine and I see no reason why he wouldn't release some of the reserves this time.

[seabeyond]

36. yes yes yes. isnt this interesting, goodwill cause of natural disaster

or horde because of greed and corruption and other plan. wow

[Renew Deal]

40. I'm not sure if you realize how much oil that is.

It's 700 million barrels. The US uses 7.2 billion barrels a year. It's enough oil for a little more than a month without conservation.

[BeFree]

42. Ok, thanks

We will see, they tell us, a 15% decline in supply if the absolute worst happens in NO. That's about 300 million barrels in the next year (rough math, correct if mistaken).

That means the reserve would resupply us - if the NO region goes totally down for two years. That's what the reserve is for - emergencies like this. Thanks.

[bigluckyfeet]

48. These Reserves

are for the military.

[BeFree]

49. You have a link to that?

Clinton released oil from the reserves and it wasn't for the military.

[JNelson6563]

50. It's not so much supply

that's the problem. It's refinery capacity.

Julie