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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 03:46 PM
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4 PM CDT Hurricane Advisory from NHC (yes it's out early)
Edited on Sun Aug-28-05 03:46 PM by steve2470
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCPAT2+shtml/DDHHMM.shtml

ZCZC MIATCPAT2 ALL
TTAA00 KNHC DDHHMM
BULLETIN
HURRICANE KATRINA ADVISORY NUMBER 24
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
4 PM CDT SUN AUG 28 2005

...POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC HURRICANE KATRINA HEADED FOR THE
NORTHERN GULF COAST...

A HURRICANE WARNING IS IN EFFECT FOR THE NORTH CENTRAL GULF COAST
FROM MORGAN CITY LOUISIANA EASTWARD TO THE ALABAMA/FLORIDA
BORDER...INCLUDING THE CITY OF NEW ORLEANS AND LAKE PONTCHARTRAIN.
PREPARATIONS TO PROTECT LIFE AND PROPERTY SHOULD BE COMPLETED THIS
EVENING.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING AND A HURRICANE WATCH ARE IN EFFECT FROM
EAST OF THE ALABAMA/FLORIDA BORDER TO DESTIN FLORIDA...AND FROM
WEST OF MORGAN CITY TO INTRACOASTAL CITY LOUISIANA.

A TROPICAL STORM WARNING IS ALSO IN EFFECT FROM DESTIN FLORIDA
EASTWARD TO INDIAN PASS FLORIDA...AND FROM INTRACOASTAL CITY
LOUISIANA WESTWARD TO CAMERON LOUISIANA.

FOR STORM INFORMATION SPECIFIC TO YOUR AREA...INCLUDING POSSIBLE
INLAND WATCHES AND WARNINGS...PLEASE MONITOR PRODUCTS ISSUED
BY YOUR LOCAL WEATHER OFFICE.

AT 4 PM CDT...2100Z...THE CENTER OF HURRICANE KATRINA WAS LOCATED
NEAR LATITUDE 26.9 NORTH... LONGITUDE 89.0 WEST OR ABOUT 150 MILES
SOUTH OF THE MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER.

KATRINA IS MOVING TOWARD THE NORTHWEST NEAR 13 MPH...AND A GRADUAL
TURN TO THE NORTH IS EXPECTED OVER THE NEXT 24 HOURS. ON THIS
TRACK THE CENTER OF THE HURRICANE WILL BE NEAR THE NORTHERN GULF
COAST EARLY MONDAY. HOWEVER...CONDITIONS ARE ALREADY BEGINNING TO
DETERIORATE ALONG PORTIONS OF THE CENTRAL AND NORTHEASTERN GULF
COAST...AND WILL CONTINUE TO WORSEN THROUGH THE NIGHT.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 165 MPH...WITH HIGHER GUSTS.
KATRINA IS A POTENTIALLY CATASTROPHIC CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE ON
THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON SCALE. SOME FLUCTUATIONS IN STRENGTH ARE LIKELY
UNTIL LANDFALL. KATRINA IS EXPECTED TO MAKE LANDFALL AT CATEGORY
FOUR OR FIVE INTENSITY. WINDS AFFECTING THE UPPER FLOORS OF
HIGH-RISE BUILDINGS WILL BE SIGNIFICANTLY STRONGER THAN THOSE NEAR
GROUND LEVEL.

KATRINA IS A LARGE HURRICANE. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS EXTEND OUTWARD
UP TO 105 MILES FROM THE CENTER...AND TROPICAL STORM FORCE WINDS
EXTEND OUTWARD UP TO 230 MILES. SUSTAINED TROPICAL STORM FORCE
WINDS ARE OCCURRING OVER THE SOUTHEAST LOUISIANA COAST. SOUTHWEST
PASS...NEAR THE MOUTH OF THE MISSISSIPPI RIVER...RECENTLY REPORTED
SUSTAINED WINDS OF 48 MPH WITH GUSTS TO 53 MPH.

A NOAA HURRICANE HUNTER PLANE REPORTED A MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE OF
902 MB...26.64 INCHES.

COASTAL STORM SURGE FLOODING OF 18 TO 22 FEET ABOVE NORMAL TIDE
LEVELS...LOCALLY AS HIGH AS 28 FEET...ALONG WITH LARGE AND DANGEROUS
BATTERING WAVES...CAN BE EXPECTED NEAR AND TO THE EAST OF WHERE THE
CENTER MAKES LANDFALL. SOME LEVEES IN THE GREATER NEW ORLEANS AREA
COULD BE OVERTOPPED. SIGNIFICANT STORM SURGE FLOODING WILL OCCUR
ELSEWHERE ALONG THE CENTRAL AND NORTHEASTERN GULF OF MEXICO COAST.

RAINFALL TOTALS OF 5 TO 10 INCHES...WITH ISOLATED MAXIMUM AMOUNTS OF
15 INCHES...ARE POSSIBLE ALONG THE PATH OF KATRINA ACROSS THE GULF
COAST AND THE TENNESSEE VALLEY. RAINFALL TOTALS OF 4 TO 8 INCHES
ARE POSSIBLE ACROSS THE OHIO VALLEY INTO THE EASTERN GREAT LAKES
REGION TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY.

ISOLATED TORNADOES WILL BE POSSIBLE BEGINNING THIS EVENING OVER
SOUTHERN PORTIONS OF LOUISIANA...MISSISSIPPI...AND ALABAMA...AND
OVER THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE.

REPEATING THE 4 PM CDT POSITION...26.9 N... 89.0 W. MOVEMENT
TOWARD...NORTHWEST NEAR 13 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...165 MPH.
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 902 MB.

AN INTERMEDIATE ADVISORY WILL BE ISSUED BY THE NATIONAL HURRICANE
CENTER AT 7 PM CDT FOLLOWED BY THE NEXT COMPLETE ADVISORY AT 10 PM
CDT.

FORECASTER PASCH

$$
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 03:47 PM
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1. down to 165, and down to 902mb pressure
beat me by a few seconds
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 03:48 PM
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2. I love to be first, I admit it :-)
For the next one, you can be first :-)
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 03:50 PM
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4. I lost bc I took 10 seconds to snipp it down to 4 paragraphs!!
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 03:51 PM
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6. It's government information so no copyright :-)
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 03:52 PM
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7. Ill remember that next time
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jasmeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 03:49 PM
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3. Hurricane hunter-sounds dangerous!!!
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 03:50 PM
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5. Pressure Down...the 10 mph drop in wind speed is probably meaningless...
As I understand it, pressure is the only reliable measure of intensity. Winds are just what hurricane hunters happen to find on that particular flight.

It's strengthening.
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 03:54 PM
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8. Absolutely worst case scenario for New Orleans
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 03:56 PM
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9. Yeah, pressure is really the measurment to go by...
when you have winds THAT fast, they are bound to vary by 10, 15, even 20 mph. Remember, these are sustained (as in they must see the speed for a whole minute) winds, not gusts. And the difference between being hit by 165 and 175 mph winds is how many pieces you will be in.
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acmejack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 03:58 PM
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11. 902 is low, real low.
As an old mariner, it was the first thing I looked for. I think my response was GD!
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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 03:57 PM
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10. Karl Arredondo (WWL's meteorologist) has said that it just shifted a bit..
to the west. At this rate, the eye will pass directly over east New Orleans and Slidell.
:scared:
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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 03:58 PM
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12. This is the one time on DU we should advocate leaning to the right (east)
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 03:59 PM
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13. I-10 Eastbound moving about 10 mph tops
Edited on Sun Aug-28-05 04:00 PM by soup
report from the road at 5 pm eastern time.
(and it's starting to rain)

caller saying 'it's just a bad situation'

edit to add out of New Orleans
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 04:03 PM
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14. Sounds like too many waited until the last second to leave...
Traffic was moving good earlier...
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 04:05 PM
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15. Bad thunder squalls rolling through NOLA area right now
per WWL TV.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 04:07 PM
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17. Got them in Louisville, KY, too...but not related
;)

wind, lightning/thunder, pouring rain just rolled thru here.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 04:06 PM
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16. Here's the 5pm Discussion:
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCDAT2+shtml/282047.shtml?

WTNT42 KNHC 282047
TCDAT2
HURRICANE KATRINA DISCUSSION NUMBER 24
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
5 PM EDT SUN AUG 28 2005

KATRINA IS MAINTAINING A CLASSIC PRESENTATION ON SATELLITE
IMAGES...AND CATEGORY 5 INTENSITY. THE CENTRAL PRESSURE MEASURED
BY A NOAA HURRICANE HUNTER PLANE AT 1755Z AND 1923Z WAS 902
MB...WHICH IS THE FOURTH LOWEST ON RECORD IN THE ATLANTIC BASIN
BEHIND HURRICANE GILBERT OF 1988...THE LABOR DAY HURRICANE OF
1935...AND HURRICANE ALLEN OF 1980. HAVING SAID THAT...DATA FROM
THE STEPPED-FREQUENCY MICROWAVE RADIOMETER INSTRUMENT ON BOARD THE
AIRCRAFT SUGGEST THAT THE SURFACE TO 700 MB FLIGHT LEVEL WIND RATIO
IS NOT QUITE AS LARGE AS WE TYPICALLY USE...AND THE INITIAL
INTENSITY IS ADJUSTED SLIGHTLY TO 145 KT. HURRICANES DO NOT
MAINTAIN SUCH GREAT INTENSITY FOR VERY LONG. HOWEVER THERE ARE NO
OBVIOUS LARGE-SCALE MECHANISMS...SUCH AS INCREASED VERTICAL
SHEAR...TO WEAKEN KATRINA. THE HURRICANE IS LIKELY TO MAKE
LANDFALL WITH CATEGORY 4 OR 5 INTENSITY.

THERE IS NOT MUCH CHANGE TO THE TRACK FORECAST PHILOSOPHY. INITIAL
MOTION IS ABOUT 315/11. KATRINA IS EXPECTED TO GRADUALLY TURN
NORTHWARD INTO A BREAK IN THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE ASSOCIATED WITH A
LARGE MID-LATITUDE CYCLONE NEAR THE GREAT LAKES. THE 12Z GFDL
HURRICANE MODEL'S TRACK HAS SHIFTED A LITTLE WESTWARD...AS HAS THE
LATEST NOGAPS RUN. THE OFFICIAL FORECAST IS SLIGHTLY TO THE WEST
AND SLIGHTLY FASTER THAN THE PREVIOUS NHC TRACK. THIS IS VERY
CLOSE TO BOTH THE DYNAMICAL MODEL CONSENSUS... AND TO THE LATEST
FSU SUPERENSEMBLE TRACK. AMONG OUR MOST RELIABLE MODELS...ONLY THE
U.K. MET. OFFICE IS SIGNIFICANTLY TO THE EAST OF THE OFFICIAL
FORECAST TRACK. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT THE SMALL CHANGE IN THE
OFFICIAL FORECAST TRACK IS ESSENTIALLY AT THE NOISE LEVEL. ONE
SHOULD NOT FOCUS ON THE EXACT TRACK...PARTICULARLY IN THE CASE OF A
HURRICANE AS LARGE AS THIS ONE. DESTRUCTIVE EFFECTS WILL LIKELY BE
FELT WELL AWAY FROM THE CENTER AND IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO SPECIFY
WHICH COUNTIES OR PARISHES WILL EXPERIENCE THE WORST CONDITIONS.


ON THE BASIS OF AIRCRAFT FLIGHT LEVEL AND SFMR SURFACE WIND
DATA...THE WIND RADII HAVE BEEN EXPANDED EVEN MORE OVER THE
NORTHERN SEMICIRCLE. HURRICANE FORCE WINDS ARE FORECAST TO SPREAD
AT LEAST 150 N MI INLAND ALONG THE PATH OF KATRINA
. CONSULT INLAND
HURRICANE AND TROPICAL STORM WARNINGS ISSUED BY NATIONAL WEATHER
SERVICE FORECAST OFFICES.




And the track has shifted west a bit:
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at2+shtml/205423.shtml?3day?large
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