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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:10 PM
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OMG! They're going to ride out the storm on their BOAT!
Edited on Sun Aug-28-05 05:14 PM by in_cog_ni_to
A father, mother AND THEIR 3 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER! This was a BIG boat, but STILL. Can they survive in that through a category 5 hurricane?? Just reported on MSNBC.

edited daughter's age.
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jasmeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:10 PM
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1. OMG! That is child abuse!
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phish420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:32 PM
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35. oh please
their other choice was a wooden shack thats old as dirt. They logically concluded that they would be safer in a 90 foot steel shrimp boat that was built to withstand and survive violent storms than an old crickety wooden shack.
Some of us arent made of money with nice block houses. Some have to do what they can to keep their family as safe as they can given their circumstances. Worry about your own children and stop with the cries of 'child abuse' on those you know nothing about. MYOB
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:10 PM
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2. the answer is no. Even huge ships have to go to a safe harbor and/or
be drydocked.
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:37 PM
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40. no a lot of them go out to sea
Sometimes it is safer to be out on the ocean instead of tied up to a dock and being smashed to bits.

I'm talking about very large ships- carriers ,etc. Mostly they will have moved the bug ships elsewhere in advance of the storm. To, say, Galveston or Houston.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:11 PM
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3. only if the boat is in California
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:12 PM
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9. Stop
:) first laugh I had all day
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:14 PM
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14. I know, the whole thing is extremely depressing
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:11 PM
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4. They're insane
I was a live aboard. There is no safe harbor in a storm like this.

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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:12 PM
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5. Were they leaving trying to flee on their boat . . . out of the path?
They won't survive if a Cat 5 hits their boat. IMHO.

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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:14 PM
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13. No.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:16 PM
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17. NO. It's docked and they and their 3 year old BABY are staying on it!
:cry:
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:12 PM
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6. I just heard that. He said many people are staying. They aren't
Edited on Sun Aug-28-05 05:26 PM by Pirate Smile
rich and can't afford to leave.

He was at Houma, LA, where the eye is supposed to hit.

He said the people don't have much $$$ and think the boats are more sturdy then their wooden homes. They were shrimp boats and sturdy boats, the reporter said.

He acted like that family wasn't the only ones going to do that.

This is horrendous.:-(
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geomon666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:17 PM
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20. Someone needs to call the cops


They can't survive on a boat.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:32 PM
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:18 PM
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22. I think it's Houma.
I didn't know that is where the eye will pass.

It doesn't sound as though staying on land will be safer, so maybe they are right to take a chance on the boat. (I think they have no chance either way.)
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:27 PM
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32. The reporter said that was where he was located.
Edited on Sun Aug-28-05 06:05 PM by Pirate Smile


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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 09:42 PM
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44. The horrendous comment was about the size, strength, location, etc.
of the storm - not a judgment of the decisions people have to make to deal with it.

I didn't realize at the time that people might interpret it as an slam on the family. It wasn't.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:12 PM
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7. They're in a race to beat the storm...
For the kid's sake, I hope they win...
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:28 PM
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33. They are "riding it out" not racing the storm.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:12 PM
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8. Unless it's a submarine
bad idea.
:banghead:
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:15 PM
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15. or a naval ship
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dogday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:12 PM
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10. Do you remember the movie Perfect Storm
those big boats had terrible problems and one went down. The surge alone will wipe them out, they won't be able to get up a wave that high... They are dead....
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:17 PM
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19. I do remember that movie.
:scared:
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:13 PM
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11. aren't waves in the eye up to 50 ft now?
I can't remember if I read this on DU or heard it on the live news stream.
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:22 PM
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25. hell, there's already a small craft advisory out for Galveston, Texas
I can't believe someone in Houma is doing this.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:14 PM
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12. I saw a story a month or so ago
about people riding out a hurricane on a naval vessel that is used as a museum in a harbor somewhere in Florida. They were safer there than on land. But that was a huge vessel.
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:15 PM
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16. During WW-2
A US naval task force got caught in a typhoon. Several destroyers were lost and end the big aircraft carrier sustained substantial damage.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:43 PM
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43. A relative of mine was in it that storm -- typhoon Cobra.
He died when the ship turned over.

Boats are hardly the safest place to be.

But I suppose some people don't have a lot of choice.
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blue sky at night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:17 PM
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18. It can be done..........
the skipper must stay on the "right" side of the storm, where the damage is least. See this diagram:




http://www.wral.com/hurricanes/2489291/detail.html
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:24 PM
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29. I've heard of people doing this in hurricaines (don't know what category)
as boats tend to do better at sea than at the dock.
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blue sky at night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:35 PM
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39. most of the accounts I have read.......
were folks who were at sea when the storm overtook them. Many of the stories were about single-handed boats, and it ain't a pleasant thing to go through. Many sailors risk their lives and boats in extreme conditions around the world, especially in the "roaring forties", if you look at a map, that is where there is no land mass to slow any wind from moving west to east.....it just roars most of the time. Big decision to make, do I stay here and know the boat is toast, or do I flee and see what happens?
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:41 PM
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42. When a child is concerned, screw the boat and make it to higher ground.IMO
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Silverhair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:18 PM
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21. Insanity!!!
In WWII, in a great typhoon on Dec 17, 1944, the Third Fleet was caught at sea by a typhoon with winds of 145mph. Three destroyers were lost, numerous other ships heavily damaged, 778 men killed.

Those were WARSHIPS, designed to stay afloat after receiving battle damage, and the officers were trained professionals with trained crews.

And this nitwit thinks he is going to ride it out?
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Porcupine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:21 PM
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23. Water is bad but the debris is fatal factor.
supposing they survived the ride debris hitting a boat at 175 mph is certain to take it out.

Have mercy on their souls.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:24 PM
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27. I remember the debris flying in FL when Anderson Cooper was reporting
during the last hurricane. THIS is so much more. This is just a disaster, no matter how you look at it.:scared:
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:24 PM
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30. Like the tsunami.
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Launch Pad Donating Member (68 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:22 PM
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24. It would depend on how the boat was designed.
Look at how cruise ships are built. They could flip completely upside down and the design would simply flip it right side up again. You could prove the theory by buying a toy boat with a simular design for your kid and see if he could sink it in the bathtub. The only way to sink a cruise ship is if the windows broke and it filled with water, but those windows are really thick as far as I know. As long as the passengers are seatbelted in, it would be one hell of a roller coaster ride but they'd make it through.

I sure wouldn't want to be out there though.

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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:25 PM
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31. I 'THINK' the reporter said it was a shrimp boat. 80-90 ft. long.
I hope they survive. :(
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Mutley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:23 PM
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26. I saw that.
:grr: If it were just the adults, fine. Commiting suicide is their choice. That little girl doesn't have a choice... :cry:
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katinmn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:24 PM
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28. They must want to die.
Edited on Sun Aug-28-05 05:25 PM by katinmn
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Pepperbelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:29 PM
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34. I rode one out at sea when I was in the Navy ...
Edited on Sun Aug-28-05 05:29 PM by Pepperbelly
I was on an LST ... Peoria, 1183 ... and we had to emergency sortie from Hong Kong during a typhoon. The winds weren't this fast ... only 120 knots ... but still, it was a hurricane. It's very doable, particularly if the ship is mechanically sound and the skipper experienced.

on edit ... my point is, I'd rather be on a ship then in NOLA.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:32 PM
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36. I hope so. Man, I hope so.
:(
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phish420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:33 PM
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38. right on...nt
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BrotherBuzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 05:40 PM
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41. Even money they can survive in open water...
with a very competent strong, rested crew and a heavy displacement sailboat around forty feet in length. They can expect multiple knockdowns and even lose their rig. An E-ticket ride for sure, but a damn stupid venture for foolhardy sailors, and a criminal one with a child aboard.
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