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frustrated_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 07:09 PM
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From New Orleans
7pm CTD. There's a bit of wind. There were a few drops of rain about 30 minutes ago.

In another thread, someone indicated there were high-rise buildings around the Superdome. That is flatly wrong, and there are no adjacent buildings whose collapse might affect the Superdome infrastructure.

Panic-mongering is now OFF limits.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 07:12 PM
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1. Stay safe..and keep us posted if you can.
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 07:12 PM
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2. Please be safe
Yes I'm sure the media is going into hysteria but still this is a massive force of nature of which no one has control. Best to be safe.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 07:12 PM
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3. Where are you?
In the city or in the burbs or where?
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 07:13 PM
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4. Recent post said winds are down and pressure is up and that is good news.
Edited on Sun Aug-28-05 07:13 PM by BrklynLiberal
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 07:13 PM
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5. Stay safe!
Please keep us updated, if you can. Where are you, outside of the city?
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frustrated_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 07:21 PM
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6. I'm in central New Orleans.
About 10-15 minutes from downtown. Walking distance from LSU and Tulane. Rest assured, we're very nervous about now.
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 07:22 PM
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8. Why are you still there?
Just curious, really -- why haven't you evacuated?
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frustrated_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 08:52 PM
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25. I've explained this elsewhere.
My wife is in the hospital. My kids are with me. It sounds stupid. I can't leave my wife, and she would go out of her mind if I took the kids out of the city.

If I took the kids out of town, my wife would feel a) I had abandoned her and b) I had betrayed her to the deepest depths of her soul.

I can NOT leave. It is NOT an option. :(

For what it's worth, the rain here is still fairly mild as of 9pm CDT.
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 09:01 PM
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26. Lefty, why don't you & the kids go to the hospital & stay with your wife.
You'd probably be safer there and they have an emergency generator. PLEASE GO NOW!
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 09:40 PM
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31. give him a break
we need to stop telling FL what to do -- he's obviously thought this through and is doing what is right for him and his family. Let's just support him and wish him well.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 09:42 PM
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32. Your wife is in the hospital?
:hug: Wishing the best for you and your family.
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RevolutionStartsNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 09:43 PM
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33. That makes perfect sense to me
I wouldn't leave my family either.

Best of luck to you. My prayers and with you and your family.
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 07:26 PM
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10. Please please please please evacuate if at ALL possible.
get the fuck out of there. leave everything behind and just get into somebody's car, a bus, a police car,
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 07:37 PM
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12. Where in your house are you going to stay when it hits?
Do you have a windowless, downstairs room, that's in the center of the house, safe from trees falling?

Keep your head down and your chin up! ;) Hoping you weather the storm all right.
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 07:49 PM
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17. FL, hope you see this
I just wanted to let you know that you and your family have been in my thoughts all day and you'll remain there tonight and tomorrow.

Hang in there. May you be blessed with the strength and good fortune to carry you and yours through this storm.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 06:46 PM
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60. You mean Loyola and Tulane
right? I'm an old Tulane grad, have you heard if they had much damage up there?
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 07:21 PM
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7. Last time I was in NO
we stayed at a Hyatt hotel across the street from the dome. I could swear it was far higher than the dome?

180
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 09:48 PM
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35. The Issue Is Wind Tunnels Created By Buildings, Not Falling Towers
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 07:24 PM
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9. Please take care. I know you'll be OK. PM me if you need anything
or need me to contact anyone for you.
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 07:26 PM
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11. if you're going to be staying there, please stay on-line as long
as you can, and let us know how you're doing. stay safe and good luck!
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 07:40 PM
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13. Yes, we'll keep you company as long as you've got electricity n/t
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 07:41 PM
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15. exactly ..
I've bookmarked this thread and will keep checking in to hear from you .... take care!
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 09:49 PM
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36. His electricity will go out pretty much instantly when the storm
hits. Mine did during Charley (everyone else I knew lost power too), but I stayed online for about an hour and a half with a battery. I spent only a bit of that time checking for updates from DUers on the storms progress (the rest of the time I was hiding out in a closet), but most were having fun making jokes about Florida getting what it deserved and only provided me with good wishes (at best). Hopefully this time around, more considerate DUers can be standing by with radar images and other info for those that can stay online with battery power for a short time.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 07:40 PM
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14. It was Bill Curl, Superdome spokesman, who said there were
high rise buildings:

It appears a facility as large as the Dome could hold up in hurricane conditions but Bill Curl, spokesman for the Superdome, says that is yet to be tested and if there is no other choice then maybe the Dome could serve as a shelter.

“Only in dire emergencies. The Superdome is not a shelter,” said Curl.

According to Curl, the assumption that the Superdome can withstand hurricane force winds is just that: an assumption. He says more analysis is needed to determine what the Dome can actually withstand because previous wind studies have become somewhat irrelevant since they did not factor in the new high-rise buildings around the Dome.

“They create a wind tunnel effect and that needs to be tested. There were initial studies that indicated 130 miles per hour, but we don’t know,” said Curl. He adds that the Dome is not impervious to the same elements other areas would be exposed to.
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 07:49 PM
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18. It's my concern, as well...
This is a view looking to the northeast of the Superdome complex (the likeliest direction of the heaviest winds from Katrina):


The turbulence from even a 120 mph wind would be tremendous. :(

And, what about a direct hit from a tornado?:scared:
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 07:59 PM
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20. Quite a few buildings between the Superdome
and the water. Thanks for the picture.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 08:02 PM
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21. Whoa, there is going to be a LOT of glass flying through the air.
:scared:
Debris likely will hit the superdome, but it doesn't appear from that picture that any building is close enough to topple onto the superdome. I hope that domed roof holds up.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 07:43 PM
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16. If you're not going to drive out of the city are you heading over to
the superdome later?
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 07:50 PM
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19. Damn you NO-leener's are a brave ballsy bunch
My thoughts are with the city and it's people--you guys have dodged other bullets and you may just do so again!

If safety and protection can be willed to your city then please know that you have many people pulling for you!

Best vibes and best of luck!
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tjdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 08:02 PM
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22. "High rise buildings"--the picture.
Edited on Sun Aug-28-05 08:05 PM by tjdee
I don't know that they meant high rise as in...the former WTC, but high rise as in...higher than the Superdome. Here's the pic from another thread:



Obviously there's nothing right next to it, but I think people were wondering what will happen should something happen with the taller buildings and be carried/blown in the SD direction.

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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 08:15 PM
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24. What a beautiful city.
We went there on our honeymoon many many years ago. For us, the draw was the Dixieland music. There was also the beautiful architecture and that it was close to home. I remember the cathedral, the chicory in the coffee, the pralines. Right near the cathedral, we saw a kid about 11 years old doing the hand jive for small change. I remember the ads for the strippers on strip clubs, but I don't remember going in any. Anyway, we were young and innocent. I was under 21. Wonderful city. We are praying for you New Orleans.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 09:47 PM
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34. also in NO for honeymoon in December of 65
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 12:30 AM
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42. June 63
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 08:14 PM
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23. I'm sure you will be just fine, I just read your other thread and
just for others to know that they shouldn't ask you why you haven't left yet, here is the thread. I hope those that asked you on this thread did not upset you, I know you realize that was no their intent..

Hang in there and if you need to jabber this is a good place to do it, free of gloom and doom and the panic mongering that really doesn't do any good and I am sorry that I for one contributed my fair share of that today..


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=155x1858#1866



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frustrated_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 09:21 PM
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28. AuntPatsy
Thank you. :) The kind words and thoughts really, really mean a lot.

I don't know how to convey this. Thank you so very, very much for paying attention.

FL.
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WiseButAngrySara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 09:38 PM
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29. Please go to the hospital, the Dome or a high rise building if you
absolutely must stay in the city!
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 09:38 PM
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30. FL, so glad to hear from you!
Hang in there .....
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 12:37 AM
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43. My hopes are with you and your family.
Tell your wife and children that a lot of people are holding them in our hearts and wishing all of you well.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 04:57 AM
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46. How are you and the family doing this morning?.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 09:12 PM
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27. I hope all is well. Please update us if you can
so we know you are okay.

Hope you don't mind a virtual hug from a stranger

:hug:
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mikita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 10:02 PM
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37. keeping you and yours in our hearts...

May you stay safe.... :hug:

Mikita

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ellie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 10:05 PM
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38. I am sick with worry for New Orleans
and her citizens. Please stay safe! And for the record I would never leave my significant other either.
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 10:14 PM
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39. Sending light to you and your children and your wife
Hold them close.
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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 10:25 PM
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40. Our thoughts and prayers are with you.
:hi:
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thebaghwan Donating Member (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-28-05 10:49 PM
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41. Looking at the NOAA radar and reflectivity, it looks like you will be
getting some nasty rain cells through there short;y.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 12:41 AM
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44. Good luck, FL. Stay safe.
We're all pulling for the safety of yourself, your family, and everyone still left in NO.
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cry baby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 12:50 AM
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45. You are really stuck between a rock and a hard place.
I know everything will be OK for you and your family. I wouldn't leave my husband if he was in the hospital, I think I'd just go there with him.

Hang in there!!
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frustrated_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 05:16 AM
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47. Quick note
We've just gotten internet connectivity back.

The rain is pouring down, winds are high and getting worse by the minute.

Not sure how long we'll keep power, but please accept our thanks to the well-wishers out there.
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 05:28 AM
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49. Im thrilled you let us all know you and your family are doing okay.
Ive been worried about you..
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 05:37 AM
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51. I'm glad to hear you are okay
I woke up thinking of you. It's so weird to say that about a total stranger :crazy:

Please be strong - we are all hoping/praying/vibing/whatever-we-do for the best for you and the whole region.

PEACE!!!
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 05:40 AM
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52. hang in there frustrated_lefty
We are pulling for you all
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 05:44 AM
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53. We certainly are.
Across the big pond too.
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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 06:06 AM
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54. Hang tight fl!!! You're in my thoughts.
Be safe!
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progmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 06:11 AM
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55. wow - how wonderful to see your post
Edited on Mon Aug-29-05 06:12 AM by progmom
:hug:

you will continue to be in my thoughts.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 06:18 AM
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56. So glad to see your post.
stay safe, good thoughts to you. :hug:
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thinkingwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 06:22 AM
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57. Hey there!
Good to hear from you! Keep on hanging on.

Be safe.
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 06:27 AM
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58. Thinking of you in Alabama. Thanks for keeping us posted.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 05:20 AM
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48. Reports from the WWL feed
Edited on Mon Aug-29-05 05:20 AM by VolcanoJen
From the WWL feed:

Jessie St. Amant, Plaqueminas Parish E.O.C., in a lengthy live phone call segment, reports:

"As far as a worse-case scenario goes, it could have been worse."

He says that the front of the eye wall is passing over his parish. The anchors are speculating that this might not be nearly as bad a storm as predicted.

I'm starting to breathe again... maybe, just maybe, you'll get through this.

Please....
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 05:31 AM
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50. Thats great to hear...
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-29-05 06:39 PM
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59. are you ok?
Hey FL, are you, your kids, and wife doing OK? When you have a chance please post on DU and let us know how you're doing.

thinking of you ...
shireen
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