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Tue Aug-30-05 06:45 AM
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Our pResident has been advised not to go visit LA and MS |
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to see the storm damage, as per Faux Snooze.
Would it interfere too much with that life he is trying to get on with?
Is it just too much to ask for him to take time off from his vacation?
Seems like a little helicopter trip isn't too much to ask. :eyes:
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:45 AM
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1. You are kidding right. . . |
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:49 AM
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and that was it - no explanation. Just a break for a commercial.
And I am sitting here with my jaw dropping . . .
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Tue Aug-30-05 08:04 AM
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59. WHO THE Flick REALLY RUNS THIS G-D COUNTRY? |
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:47 AM
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2. He wants to distance himself from Bad News... |
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and just wait until the residents learn the NG isn't there to help...
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:47 AM
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3. Oh I'm sure he will show up soon handing out ice and water... |
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along with Laura. That will show us how caring he is and what a great guy he is.
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:48 AM
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7. Jr. did that in FL last year--recall him handing our ice? |
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:49 AM
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9. Yes, I recall him doing that and it was such a blatant PR stunt... |
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:58 AM
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38. But that was before the election |
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and his dear brother was in need.
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:50 AM
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10. Election Year Photo Op |
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That is all that was. Nothing to push this year.
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Tue Aug-30-05 08:05 AM
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60. Nope. French Q flooding--no bars open. Hell no, he won't go! |
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:48 AM
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4. He can't even fly over in Marine One??!!?? |
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Yeah, I forgot...he's still on vacation.
How silly to think that he would actually care about unimagined death and destruction when he's still on his vacation.
I loathe this fucker more every day.
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:50 AM
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How hard would it be to take a helicopter tour? He is only one state away on his vacation.
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:52 AM
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17. I think he's actually gone out to California |
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To scoop up some cash from the haves and the have-mores.
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:48 AM
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5. Who will deliver the Rubber Turkey then? |
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Who will bullshit the people with the bull horn?
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:48 AM
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6. Matter of relief efforts.... |
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Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 06:49 AM by justabob
I seem to recall after some other disaster the relief/emergency workers complained because the security and pageantry of presidential visit got in the way of their efforts.
on edit: I am not saying that is right, its just something I remember from a while back
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:51 AM
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15. A helicopter tour wouldn't interfere |
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Those people need to know he cares.
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:54 AM
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Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 06:57 AM by justabob
but I can see how he might be in the way in eyes of workers... even in a helicopter. Coast Guard is using helicopters for rescue, hospitals evacuating etc.
edit: added some words about the workers
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:52 AM
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26. we have no national disaster plan--local/state --Katrinia has made |
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this very visiable. Not even communications so that people can notify their family that they are ok (or not).
What we have is chaos. yes, red cross is there and local agencies and Fema--but nothing overal coordinating his disaster--like Homeland Security. Here have the ports--and oil all basically in chaos!!!
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:55 AM
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32. What did those people expect at a photo op? |
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They must not have the first amendment zone pumped out yet.
He thinks Cindy might be there.
He can't put on his act, in front of a crowd that isn't on a government payroll and forced to act like they like him.
He's A POS.
All of the above!
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:49 AM
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8. Exactly who advised the chimp ... |
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... not to "assess" the storm damage?
The Chimp is a despicable excuse for a human being.
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:52 AM
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It was just as I described in the OP. "The president has been advised not to visit hurricane ravaged areas."
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Tue Aug-30-05 07:09 AM
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Chimpy see's no political advantage and he doesn't care (he's already expressed his deep concern to the owners of the oil refineries out in the gulf), but he'll think of "your" suffering every day.
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:50 AM
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11. He would just be in the way anyway. |
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The police would have to help out the secret service. No one has time for that mess.
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:53 AM
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would he be in the way in a chopper?
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:56 AM
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Get those people on the Gulf coast what they need.
--and it sure as hell isn't a swaggering smirking 'sympathy'-laden photo-op for the bubble boy and all that would entail--
Let the cost of that go towards the help that's really needed.
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Tue Aug-30-05 07:30 AM
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49. AMEN! Having been through Jeanne and Frances, I can tell you a visit |
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from a politician is the last thing the area needs! Stay the fuck away until basic services are restored.
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:50 AM
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12. Helluva leader, that Boosh, eh? |
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Remember the other day he was talking about "sacrifice?"
I guess that only applies to us little people.
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:54 AM
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29. He's trying to get on with his life eom |
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:51 AM
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14. Feeding tubes seem to have a magnetic pull |
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on the pinhead. Maybe we should ship a crate to LA.
What's this "advised" shit? He's the Take-Charge President. Right?
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:54 AM
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when they tell him it's okay.
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:51 AM
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16. what? seriously, who advised him |
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guess it's back to the ranch for some more bike riding and brush clearing. :mad:
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:55 AM
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33. I don't know who advised him |
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And you know Faux gave no more details.
I guess you could call it a fair and balanced story?
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:52 AM
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18. I am sure the pilot of AF1 will point those |
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states out to him as he flights at 30,000 back to DC from Vacationland TX :grr:
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:52 AM
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19. Our pResident has been advised not to go visit LA and MS |
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to see the storm damage, as per Faux Snooze.
Would it interfere too much with that life he is trying to get on with?
Is it just too much to ask for him to take time off from his vacation?
Seems like a little helicopter trip isn't too much to ask. :eyes:
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:52 AM
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20. Even his father visited Florida after Andrew... |
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Of course, it WAS an election year.
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:52 AM
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And if I remember correctly, he was criticized for that.
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Tue Aug-30-05 07:48 AM
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54. He was criticized for not going to Florida until public criticism.... |
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...forced him to go. By the time he finally got to Florida, everyone saw his effort for what it was...damage-control.
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Tue Aug-30-05 07:07 AM
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40. And it was only after the EMS official in Dade County stated on live.... |
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...television that the area was completely devastated and asked where all of the Federal assistance was that had been promised. If it hadn't been for her, Poppy Bush would never have made the trip.
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:52 AM
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22. What was faux's reason for such a suggestion? |
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:52 AM
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23. Sorry but it's not Terri Schiavo!! |
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Now, if it were just a single person vs 1.4 million people effected.. i'm sure he'd consider it.
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:52 AM
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24. IOW's. He thinks his own skin is worth more than surveying the damage |
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Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 06:56 AM by Solly Mack
from the safety of a heliocopter.
It's OK when Americans die and face hardships - as long as he is safe.
I don't expect a single remotely human reaction from Bush. Not sure why anyone does. I certainly don't expect him to behave as a leader.
And you actually get people who defend lawmakers and presidents securing their own asses before the people's needs are met.
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:53 AM
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27. He should have ended his 'vacation' |
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and gone back to the White House to monitor the situation.
Instead he's partying and eating cake. What a worthless excuse for a human.
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:54 AM
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31. maybe Haily Barbour told him to stay away? |
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Tue Aug-30-05 07:17 AM
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46. There is no need for Bush to go to the disaster area |
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He needs to be in DC to make decisions and issue orders. The shit head is partying and eating cake instead. That is called Dereliction of Duty. It is time for Bush to step down and for Cheney to take control. Since no one can find Cheney either, then whoever is next in line Hastert(?) needs to step up. This is ridiculous.
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:57 AM
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I detest this man more and more all the time.
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Tue Aug-30-05 06:57 AM
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36. The responsible reason would be because he would hamper rescue efforts |
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More likely it's because he'd be booed and hissed by refugees who couldn't afford the gas to get to safety.
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Tue Aug-30-05 07:10 AM
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42. The guy has MUCH more security than any previous occupant of the.... |
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...White House. Dictators are always concerned with security.
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Tue Aug-30-05 07:07 AM
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39. The president can not get to the Gulf Coast! |
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Both New Orleans airports are underwatet,,, The logisitics of getting him andthe appropriate collatteral in place even for a short visit would be daunting.
What is he going to do? A bly-by in AF One. ALl the helicoptes in the tri-state region are need for emergency details,
He needs to adress the nation to be sure,,,but there is nnothing that he can do by doing a visit. except piss local residents off from taking awaay emergency personnel from all they are contending with.
The president can not go to New Orleans and even if he could he shouldn't
To think that the prseident needd to put in a cameo really needs to be thought through before we blather the insensitivity of Mr. Putz.
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Tue Aug-30-05 07:11 AM
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43. It would be a *start* if he would just talk to them |
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Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 07:11 AM by justabob
and acknowledge their situation without making it an afterthought to a sales pitch for Medicaid or social security or the Iraqi constitution or whatever else he is hawking these days.
edit : typos
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Tue Aug-30-05 07:21 AM
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47. He is the president of the US!! |
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I am sure there are some airports open in northern MS or LA.
He can go anywhere he wants.
And check his agenda - I believe he is out west raising money today. Surely you agree that is a bit insensitive?
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Tue Aug-30-05 07:36 AM
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50. iF HE IS DOING FUNDRAISERS HE SHOULD BE BOILED IN OIL. |
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Rove souled pull the plug on that I would think.
Marine One probably has about 320 miles of fuel in it. that is not enought to do a visual inspection from the air.
THink about it.. they would have to figut out where to land. The governor ans state police and whomever else would have to mett them where they land. that means another helicopeter or two
The value in a presienttial visit is the ressurance that it brings. but that value is dimisished significantly because there is no power for people to watch on TV.
He should not ignore it. He should prbably go back to the whitehouse and adress the nation... But the lasthing he whould want to do is take away valuable time from anyone on the ground.
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Tue Aug-30-05 07:45 AM
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53. Leaders lead from the front....not in the rear with the gear.... |
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...but then again, Herr Busch is NOT a leader, is he?
And no, showing his lying, cowardly butt at the scene of a disaster is not taking away "valuable time from anyone on the ground". This kind of effort is supposed to improve morale of those affected by the disaster, and a chance to show what kind of assistance can be brought to bear from the "leader of the free world".
IMHO, you're on the wrong board if you want to defend Herr Busch.
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Tue Aug-30-05 07:39 AM
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51. I don't guess you don't know that he has at least three helicoptors.... |
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...for his use along with Air Force One and Air Force Two. Herr Busch can get into any area of the world that he wishes to go...but he's got to be willing to go.
And yes, if he believes that he's the leader of the country, he needs to show his lying, cowardly butt at EVERY disaster area, and he should be attending EVERY funeral of the people he's sent off to their deaths in the Middle East.
As far as the logistics are concerned, flying into any nearby air base (USAF or National Guard) with Air Force One would be the first step in the process. The next step would be to take one of his helicoptors into the affected area.
Most dictators have VERY little interest in the people they govern other than the taxes they pay, and their willingness to serve in the military. Why should Herr Busch be any different?
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Tue Aug-30-05 07:58 AM
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55. yeak....ok you sold me...n/t |
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I think aloto og people here are just looking for any reason they can find to beat up on *....
At least come up with a rational response to the logictics and the first reposnders issues.
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Tue Aug-30-05 07:11 AM
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44. I don't think he should go now |
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He'd spread pestilence and cooties.
But really, this isn't the time. They have work to do in those state and choppers are a main way of some rescues. Shouldn't go now while the waters are high.
BUT he should go back to the white house, practice looking compassionate and in charge. His stupid PR trips to sell his BS are so wrong and vacation biking is just as bad.
He has just looked horrible. But then he is horrible,
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Tue Aug-30-05 07:17 AM
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45. He woke up IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT for Terri Schiavo. |
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So fox can fucking save it.
They "reported" this because they know he looks bad. Really bad.
This should be his number one priority right now, not flitting here and there as far away as he could possibly be.
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Tue Aug-30-05 07:28 AM
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48. Bush Is PUBLICLY Below The Mendoza Line Now Folks |
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Fox is doing major damage control because Bush is not going to recover from this latest and most insensitive blunder and they so fucking know it.
Remember " Who cares what you think?" while Bush was in PA circa 2000? We've known he has a shitty black heart all along NOW the rest of America does to.
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Tue Aug-30-05 07:44 AM
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52. These are two Southern states |
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that voted for him. He already got what he needs from them. He can't be reelected. Why bother going there? And its so messy, you know. Probably no good golf courses available (or bars).
:sarcasm:
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Tue Aug-30-05 08:00 AM
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56. Yes, I'm real positive the majority of people .... |
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...that are currently suffering the most from the effects of Katrina voted for Herr Busch.
That's probably especially true of all of those people that didn't have the money and/or the vehicle necessary to be able to evacuate.
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Tue Aug-30-05 08:01 AM
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57. My advice to him is to get your ass up in the air |
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and take a look at the devastation and let those people know you understand and are doing all you can to help, you little rodent...
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Tue Aug-30-05 08:04 AM
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58. Why should he waste his beautiful mind on things like that? |
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You know, dozens of dead confirmed so far, billions of dollars in damage, one of the South's largest cities filling rapidly with water. Yuck, who needs that? :mad: :mad: :mad:
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