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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:04 AM
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Hello! Where The Hell Is The Video Of The Canal Levee Breech?
Am I crazy or should someone have footage available of that by now. It is the ongoing event. Everyone is running around looking at storm damage.

Am I missing it? Are there photos of video of the lake "pouring into the city"?

Can't stand not knowing how much water we are talking about. Why are they not showing it?
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:05 AM
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1. They can't get to it and it happened in the middle of the night.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:05 AM
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2. dude
I'd be happy not to see that...I'm really sick of all this media shitstorm covering the event WHEN THEY COULD BE FUCKING HELPING PEOPLE!


not yelling at you, just wondering why we need to have the coverage of this when the man power could be dedicated to helping these poor peeps :(
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:08 AM
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5. Reporters Are Not Rescuing folks. Different Workforce.
Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 10:09 AM by DistressedAmerican
They are busy touring dry stuff that they can drive to.

They should show it so that everyone can make informed decisions about how bad it is. That may save lives. Information is power.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:09 AM
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7. they can still help
Hand out supplies, direct S&R missions...if they can get to those places they are to report, than they can be invaluble to the searchers.
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Jacobin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:07 AM
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3. We have no media
would need helicopters to get video, or someone in a boat.

these fuckwads we have for 'reporters' wouldn't lift a finger if they couldn't get glam shots of them blowing around in the wind
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GumboYaYa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:07 AM
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4. You can see it in some of the helicopter shots.
The footage they had of it last night showed a smaller breech that has obvioulsy increased in size. I don't think anyone knew whtat theyr were looking at, but I definitely saw footage of the lakeview area and a levee breech that I assumed was the 17th street canal.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:09 AM
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6. Photo..
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:10 AM
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9. Thanks! Holy Shit!
Seems like it has nearly reached level. I guess that is good.
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:21 AM
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12. Thank you for the photo. Can someone explain it to me?
I don't understand what it's showing. Is the canal(?) where the break is normally a waterway? for drainage or what? Is Lake Ponchartrain in the foreground - or is that more floodwater? Does that one break allow the entirity of the lake access to the city? Is the system that fragile?

Sorry, have about 100 questions...
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:26 AM
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13. Goggle view of better days - it's a canal that drains Lake Ponchartrain...
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soup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:34 AM
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15. Guess that answers my questions.
Thank you. :cry:
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:45 AM
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16. Again I Say Holy Shit!
They say it is still steadily filling the CBD and French Quarter.

Hard to believe that little wall stood between the city and all of this!

Thanks again. I knew DU would know if there were any shots.
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:10 AM
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8. Because they're busy rescuing people!
You want they should use helicoptors or boats to take pictures from when people are dying?
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DistressedAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:12 AM
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10. CNN Is Not Rescuing Anyone. If They Were, They Would Be Talking About It.
News people cover rescues. They do not perform them.
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:19 AM
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11. Not watching TV
But if CNN has a helicoptor that's not busy rescuing someone, they should have it taken from them immediately. People are dying out there!
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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:31 AM
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14. DU'er Posted A Detailed Pic

at the following post (large picture).

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1736635#1736723

It was an earthen levee topped with a concrete floodwall. Appears that the levee failed from slope (slide) failure as evidenced by the somewhat intact remains of the floodwall visible in the background. This is a common risk when earthen levees are raised with floodwalls (or temporary sandbags) to provide additional freeboard from overtopping.

The intact levee to the right does not seem to have a liberal height to width ratio. Considering the poor subsoils these levees are built on . .

This could be a case like I have seen over the years where a substandard levee is retrofit to provide for more height without addressing underlying foundation issues. Due to the adjacent development, widening of the levee was when they raised the height was not practical.

Civil Engineering is a process of risk management and tradeoffs. We are just renting from mother nature, after all.
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