FAUX ANCHOR says there is a difference between looting to sustain

[xultar]

life and looting for opportunity.

:wow:

The reporter however in his wisdom shoots her down.

[Teaser]

1. Well

if it came to it, and I needed to smash and grab some food to live after an event like this...I wouldn't think twice.

[RebelOne]

3. No, CNN reporter Jim Spellman is on Canal Street

and is witnessing looting and says that people are stealing electronics and everything they can get their hands on. Plus, they are breaking storefront windows. These people are scum.

[aquart]

10. Stealing electronics? In this situation?

Darwin award.

[Cleita]

12. I'm not saying this isn't wrong, but why is CNN just showing

the sensational looting problems only? I'm not watching but it seems from the posts on DU that this is all they are focusing on. They should be showing the WHOLE picture. Desperate people trying to survive, and many drowned it seems. But I guess this would make our illustrious President look bad.

[Teaser]

13. Gotcha...

hopefully they can identify these people from videotape.

[Midlodemocrat]

27. But what if they are stealing that stuff because they

have lost everything, have no insurance and need to find a way to provide for themselves or their families in the days to come?

I don't advocate stealing, either, but I am not in that situation. If I had no way to provide for my kids, you can bet your damned ass I would steal. I would steal anything and everything I could get my hands on with not one regret.

[BikeWriter]

Stupid question self-deleted...

[Midlodemocrat]

48. ?

[BikeWriter]

51. I deleted a question I decided needed no answer.

[Midlodemocrat]

52. Oh. Thought you meant what I wrote

was a stupid question. Mea culpa

[BikeWriter]

54. No, I have decided to try avoiding this discussion like the plague.

[Midlodemocrat]

55. LOL. Probably not a bad idea.

I think I am going to head over to LBN and see what is going on over there.

[bpilgrim]

39. "These people are scum" - i'm sure the M$MWs got the story straight

wonder where these folks are gonna plug these electronics in or store them?

i bet 99.9% is food and water with a few young'ns not thinking straight during this disaster.

people who call survivors of an on-going disaster 'scum' are simply regurgitating the M$MWs programming and revealing their ignorant and hateful hearts.

meet your new boss...
http://news.globalfreepress.com/mp3/katrina/looting_will_be_treated_ruthlessly.mp3

peace

[aquart]

4. I completely agree.

Anyone stealing diapers and canned food and bottled water makes sense to me. Anyone stealing liquor is too stupid to live anyway.

Does this mean I have no morals?

[ohio_liberal]

6. I don't know about the liquor...

If I were there I would be self medicating right now.

[aquart]

11. Yeah, but you don't want to pass out and slip below the water line.

[TheWraith]

20. Actually, liquor would make sense.

Potent enough liquor could be used as a sterilizing agent. That water, with everything that's in it, and in those temperatures, is going to be incredibly septic. Anybody who's been wounded, even minimally, is going to need treatment, and they probably don't have nearly enough antibiotics for everyone.

[zbdent]

24. one slight point

Aside from drinking, alcohol does indeed have medicinal purposes . . . but it's not likely that it would be stolen for this reason, especially if the "sterilizing" alcohol is on the shelf, and the "pleasure" alcohol is being stolen . . .

[xultar]

23. Please re-read my post. I didn't take a position I simply reported

what was going on on Faux.

Actually I was shocked that someone on Faux could have compassion.

Again, please re read my post.

[sellitman]

2. Loot or starve? I'd loot so fast it would make your head spin.

You are kidding me aren't you?

[xultar]

9. I'm not making an opinion I'm reporting what the Faux Anchor said

I'm shocked that a Faux Anchor would be able to have compassion.

Again.. I did not take a position on the issue. Please re-read my post.

[Reverend_Smitty]

25. I was flipping through the channels at work today

and I saw Faux briefly, a woman reporter was interviewing a man who I guess was in flood waters and was holding on to his wife and children. His wife made him let go so that he could save the kids. One of the saddest things I've ever seen on TV, it had the reporter crying too.

[xultar]

30. I'm almost unable to watch. I can only tune in to see news on my old

parrish. I lived in Orleans Parrish in the 9th ward on Desire Street.

I wanna see what happend to my old house. IT was 100 years old. A single shot-gun. All cypress with all shutters and brackets attached and original wood cypress floors.

[Reverend_Smitty]

33. it probably didn't fair too well

the 9th ward got hit pretty hard and considering it was made out of wood probably didn't help too much either

[xultar]

38. we didn't live down by the canal luckilly. The water in the Bywater

would come up through the streets like The Quarter. Plus the house is about 3 feet off the gound. But I can only give excuses right now hoping it will be o.k.
:cry: :cry:

[Prism]

49. I saw that was well

The reporter looked like she was just barely keeping herself from doubling over into sobs.

That poor man. I'm getting a lump in my throat just thinking about what he went through.

[AnnInLa]

17. I am watching local Baton Rouges TV stations

The looters are not starving. They have filled garbage cans full of jewelry, electronics, TVs, and stuff that is not for immediate survival. The looting is now totally out of control, and the police can't do much about it. In biloxi, people are on the waterfront taking everything that isn't nailed down. They seem to like the go-carts and recreational vehicles, just pushing them down the street. Witnesses are describing the looting in N.O. and Biloxi as being like downtown Baghdad. The police are still in search and rescue mode, and so have better things to do than dealing with the looters. May I remind you people who are so concerned about looters who may be mis-understood and mis-treated, that New Orleans is a Blue, Democrat stronghold. Many of our DUers, or at least other "Blue" homes and businesses are being looted. It's sickening, and I don't mean those poor, poor looters who are hungry.

[SammyWinstonJack]

21. So would I, I think anyone would.

Stealing electronics, what would be the sense of that. Food I can totally understand!

[VADem11]

5. On CNN

Rob Marciano just said the same thing. He said that he can give them the beneift of the doubt if they need supplies and their houses are damaged or destroyed but not looting casinosin Biloxi. Of course Kyra Phillips paid no attention to that.

[SoCalDem]

14. casinos "put their money" in a safe place..trust me on that one

unless the want some red velvet soggy furniture the casinos probably have little to take anyway.. worth anything that is.They hauled their booze, chips & cash OUT before the storm

[mondo joe]

7. I'm sorry, but I don't see the problem. No one is condeming people

taking food or water to survive.

Stealing ATMS or TVs is something else.

[xultar]

15. Please re-read my post. I didn't take a position I simply reported

what was going on on Faux.

Actually I was shocked that someone on Faux could have compassion.

Again, please re read my post.

[Cleita]

16. You know, it's probably not that many out of everyone left behind

that is doing this. People have died and CNN only seems to want to show African Americans looting. :eyes:

[Cleita]

22. Like I said if people didn't want their stuff stolen, then they

shouldn't have left those people behind. If everyone had been evacuated there wouldn't have been any looting.

[mondo joe]

28. The people who are getting stuff stolen are not in a position to

evacuate everyone. Some of them are holed up in the Dome themselves.

And some people refuse to evacuate BECAUSE of looters.

I'm not sure who you want to blame here.

[Cleita]

34. Actually, the government up to the highest level who should

have had an evacuation plan in place to evacuate everyone, not just those who could afford to leave. Telling people to leave isn't good enough. You have to have a plan in place to evacuate the poor, the elderly and the handicapped who might not be able to take care this themselves.

We had a long thread on Sunday about airlifting people out in helicopters, putting public buses and boats to use to evacuate people, but nothing was done. Of course the National Guard are mostly in Iraq, so whatever assets they had are not here. Mr. Bush has a lot of 'splaning to do.

These people were essentially left behind to drown and I find that dispicable.

[mondo joe]

37. But since they didn't (and since it reeks of martial law I'd be

disinclined to support a FORCED evacuation anyway), we have to deal with what we DO have. And I can't think of an acceptable reason to loot homes and businesses for anything but necessary food or ither critical items.

[Cleita]

40. Excuse me but, most people would be willing to be evacuated

if offered the opportunity. Just a little story. Years ago when I was hiking with a friend outside of Fairbanks, Alaska, we got caught in a forest fire. We were rescued by soldiers who were coming to fight the fire from the nearest army base and taken to a safe place in town. When offered the rescue, we didn't sit there and say, no we'll wait it out in the nearest body of water, which is what we would have had to do if we hadn't been rescued.

[mondo joe]

43. Some people don't WANT to be evacuated and one reason

is they fear looters. And it's the very people who are not well positioned to take care of themselves that have the greatest fears.

I agree the government has done a poor job.

But that doesn't excuse in any way the exploitation of the bad situation.

[Cleita]

47. LIke I said we have disasters like this all the time in California

like earthquakes and fires. They evacuate people for fires. Earthquakes you have no warning for. Some home owners stay behind to try to save their property by hosing everything down as long as they are able to get water. Some looting happens, but not very much really. In the wooded areas around the perimeters of wilderness areas, there are trailer parks full of desperately poor people, yet the authorities make a point of getting these people out too. Imagine if they were left behind, I am sure they would loot too out of necessity and maybe even out of greed, but since our usually Democratic government officials care, they make an effort to save these people. This didn't happen in Louisiana.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

29. Do you know for sure if they weren't told to leave.......

...or might have hid in their homes?

Then again, had they been made to evacuate by force, I'm sure you would have bitched about that too.

[aquart]

18. Yes. It's useless and stupid.

The refrigerators have nothing but spoiled food because electricity is out and the foragers return with TVs??? I'd take 'em and throw 'em at their brainless heads.

[notadmblnd]

8. does it really matter at this point?

Won't everything be lost anyway? People stealing food.. won't that food go bad or be lost to the rising water?

[xultar]

19. Please re-read my post. I didn't take a position I simply reported

what was going on on Faux.

Actually I was shocked that someone on Faux could have compassion.

Again, please re read my post.

[Cleita]

26. They will probably be reprimanded harshly for that.n/t

[xultar]

32. I'm sure it won't be long before they yank her ass you are right.

[notadmblnd]

31. I wasn't accusing you of being judgemental

I was more or less just wondering out loud if it really matters at this point.

If someone thinks it does, please post your reasoning behind it so I can understand.

[xultar]

36. You're right, it doesn't matter. But it will be used as it aways has to

prove that products in poor communities need to cost more to cover for the loss due to possible looting.

I lived in NOLA we had to drive to the white areas because the food was cheaper there. The produce was fresher and of better quailty.

[bpilgrim]

35. "Looters will be treated RUTHLESSLY" - Gov of MS, Barbour - does DU AGREE?

listen to the quote here...
http://news.globalfreepress.com/mp3/katrina/looting_will_be_treated_ruthlessly.mp3

take the poll here...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x4504058

peace

[MadHound]

41. Let's see, you're in a disaster area,

Your house and everything you own has just be demolished, you are poor and have no insurance to replace anything.

All of these fat cat stores have insurance, and will be claiming virtually everything inside as a loss, whether it actually was or not.

Yeah, I can understand the motivation for looting now. Not that I condone it mind you, but I do understand the motivation for it.

These folks are picking up a little nest egg to get them started back on the path to a normal existence, everything they had is gone, and they have no way other than this to replace things. The stores are just going to claim it on insurance, thus the store owner isn't out the money.

Like I said, I understand the motivation, even though I don't condone it.

And it also seems to me that the coverage of this is being done in a very bigotted, biased manner. The MSM is covering the few to paint the many with a very broad, racist brush. Sad, very sad.

[mondo joe]

44. Not everyone being looted is a "fat cat". Most small businesses

won't even succeed, that's how on the edge they are, and people's homes are being looted as well.

And the stores that make big insurance claims get big increases in premiums, which they pass on to the customers.

No matter how you slice it whether it's Katrina or looters the victims are the same.

[styersc]

42. Limbaugh is pushing this same line.

They know that the National Guard troops that are being misused in Iraq are desparately needed on OUR Gulf at this time and this fact is about to become obvious.

[Perky]

45. I don't endorse looting

But OMG the food was otherwise going to rot. Desperate tiems call for desperate measure.

NOw if someone is stealing a widescreen I'd punch him in the mouth.

[Cleita]

50. Nobody "endorses" looting except maybe the Republicans who

have no problem looting our treasury. However, you have to put circumstances in perspective. During desperate times, people do desperate things.

[Perky]

46. I don't endorse looting

But OMG the food was otherwise going to rot. Desperate tiems call for desperate measure.

NOw if someone is stealing a widescreen I'd punch him in the mouth.

[Ganja Ninja]

53. Who gives a crap about a few lousy TV's or whatever!

At the rate the city is flooding today whatever the looters took will be destroyed whether it was looted or left in the store. People are dying and a major public health disaster is looming and the worthless f-wads on FOX are upset over someone grabbing a 12 pack and a bag of chips from a damaged 7/11.