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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:38 PM
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Has anyone seen a helicopter other than the Coast Guard doing rescues?
I haven't seen the National Guard in action yet.

Am I wrong?
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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:39 PM
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1. self delete
Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 01:40 PM by Not_Giving_Up
Typo and double posted.
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Not_Giving_Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:39 PM
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2. All I've seen chopper-wise is Coast Guard
There are National Guard people in the Superdome.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:39 PM
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3. I've heard "talk" of National Guard on the way....
Nobody said where they were on the way FROM, however...
(It may be awhile)
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:41 PM
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4. I heard neighboring states
It is a sin that the NO NG brigade is in Iraq. :cry:
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MildyRules Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:42 PM
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5. Does the "NO Brigade"
Have attached helos?
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:44 PM
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8. There is/was a helicopter unit at Lakefront airport
The airport is under water. I dunno where the unit is at all!

Link to post on it:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=4505211&mesg_id=4505211
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:42 PM
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6. CNN reports that the National Guard has arrived at Canal Street...
... where there are reports of rampant looting.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:42 PM
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7. It'll take a while to fly some Blackhawks from Baghdad.
Maybe next year, if they aren't in Iran then.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:44 PM
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9. i saw or am watching a military with a red cross
Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 01:45 PM by seabeyond
now out there helping the coast guard. making me cry watching these people being rescued. anyway, on cnn. i did see what looked military with a red cross
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:50 PM
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13. I hope there are more Guard on the way
Texas, Arkansas, Alabama ain't that far way.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:45 PM
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10. I think I just saw a NG Huey
But mostly it's the Coast Guard.
National Guard would normally be everywhere in the disaster zone.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:46 PM
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11. Well....
Coast Guard helicopters are much more suited to this mission.

I doubt the NG has very many rescue copters or at least copters with winch and basket ability.

I found this link for what copters the Army National Guard use:

http://www.arng.army.mil/about_us/equipment/default.asp?category_id=52

I would guess that the Black Hawk would be the most appropriate but how many are outfiited with winch and baskets? Can those be added quickly? Anyone know?




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chopper boy Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 02:01 PM
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19. As far as I know...
Rescue Hoists come installed on the helicopters... you can't just add them on unfortunately.



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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:05 PM
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27. Thanks for your reply (nt)
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 02:02 PM
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21. Rope ladders aren't high tech gear
and will work fine as would a simple loop on one end of thick mooring line and a 3 man belaying team inside the chopper.
If you're stuck on your roof facing the prospect of the sun going down in another 5 hours with water all around you for miles and nothing to eat, you aren't to care if the rescue rope chafes your armpits. Getting out of there and getting clean water food and shelter is what's important.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 02:07 PM
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24. Being able to climb a rope ladder is physically demanding...
...and is more dangerous than a basket.

Would I be able to do it? With some effort, yes.

But don't forget alot of the people stuck there couldn't get out for whatever reason. Kids and old people especially would have difficulty.

Still that may become very necessary.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:47 PM
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12. MSNBC showing Coast Guard rescues live right now
No National Guard that I have seen. Their helicopters are probably all in Iraq. God damn Bush.

Kudos to the Coast Guard. They are showing whole families being air lifted off of rooftops.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:53 PM
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15. Local link - best news coverage - showing rescues now:
http://www.wdsu.com/video/4907831/detail.html

Breaking News: Begin Evacuating Superdome now by way of Crescent City Connection maybe by air. :scared: More and more people on rooftops in NO. Water is rising.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 02:00 PM
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18. Hey CottonBear, did you say that you were waiting to hear from family?
Any word yet?
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:14 PM
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29. Yes. They are OK. Got word to us by ham radio operator somehow.
We got a call this AM from Mr. CottonBears'niece in KY. I have no idea if their homes are OK or where or how they are. They are alive, which is good. They had been planning to ride out the storm. I hope their homes are still there and can be rebuilt. :( Thanks for your concern.
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PA Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:16 PM
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30. Glad to hear they are safe! n/t
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:52 PM
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14. Seems to me they should take any boat.................
ANY BOAT, they can and send a flotilla of small craft to get people.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:57 PM
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16. Those olive green copters could be NG.
I think the CG only has orange ones, so they're visible.
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 01:58 PM
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17. Thanks. Hope they are the first of many to come
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chopper boy Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 02:03 PM
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22. Yes, they are
The green ones could be either Army, Air Force, ANG, or AirNG Black Hawks. The Coast Guard only has Dolphins, and Jayhawks, and those are always Orange and White

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VADem11 Donating Member (783 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 02:07 PM
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25. I think they are
Those look like Hueys and appear more like the military.
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theHandpuppet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 02:02 PM
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20. I'd like to take just a minute --
To thank our many heroes in the United States Coast Guard.
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 02:05 PM
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23. I agree. They were first on the scene from all I can tell (helo-wise)
Keep up the good work.
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 02:09 PM
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26. OK, I just saw a Military rescue UH-1 Huey make a rescue
Hope more are on the way
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 03:07 PM
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28. I saw "United States Army" choppers
I assumed they were National Guard.
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