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Horse with no Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:21 PM
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Not sure I want to know the answer--but what happens if the
Mississippi levee breaks? They are watching it.
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merbex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:22 PM
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1. New Orleans becomes Atlantis:a sunken city
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:22 PM
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2. More water
Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 08:22 PM by DoYouEverWonder
and it will be lot longer before they ever get rid of the water.
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huskerlaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:23 PM
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3. They're expecting
an ADDITIONAL 9 feet of flood water, from the levee that's already broken.
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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:23 PM
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4. I heard last night...

that the government was going to put a 3-star general in charge of coordinating the full consequences of this storm - which is not going to just hit these coastal areas, but all through the Tennessee and Ohio valley.

The Ohio and Mississippi, two big rivers could flood large land masses potentially.
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Kenroy Donating Member (768 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:24 PM
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5. then everything is underwater
including the French Quarter, which MIGHT survive a Pontchartrain flood. But if the Miss goes, it floods it all.
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:25 PM
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6. But, can't they let those waters into the Atchafalaya Basin?
That's what they usually do....does anyone know?
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:26 PM
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7. Mississippi is at a seasonal low
Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 08:46 PM by Teaser
thankfully. And it can absorb a storm surge better than Pontchartrain.

But if that levee were ever topped over, New Orleans would meet its fate.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:27 PM
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8. The levee broke. They mayor ordered all of NO evacuated
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shirlden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:34 PM
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10. The sandbagging idea
didn't happen for some reason and now the pump has failed at the 17th street canal. The lake is 3 ft above sea level. It will now flow into New orleans which is on average 9 feet below sea level. There is nothing to stop it and this is the worse case scenerio now happening.
My brothers house, in the Bywater, near the river levee had been spared flooding. By morning it will have 8 ft of water in it. The French Quarter too will be at least 6 feet and the Garden District downtown will be 6-9. This is it, folks.

My heart is breaking !!!!
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:45 PM
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14. That's the pontchartrain levee
not the river.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:46 PM
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15. really a canal off Pontchartrain...
nt
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:39 PM
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12. The rains all day here in Indiana (and elsewhere)
are causing Flooding that is going to go downstream to New Orleans.

I don't know if it can be held back upstream or not - or how much.

I was thinking I read somewhere that the Lake Ponchartrain situation made it more difficult to divert water from the Mississippi. :shrug:
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:27 PM
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9. Part of it is broken already
That's what the reporter on MSNBC just said.
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yowzayowzayowza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:47 PM
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16. Gotta link?
Don't see anything on MSNBC regarding river levee breaches. Thx.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:54 PM
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18. It just happened
Nothing has been posted yet. But there are a couple posts on this thread that say the same thing. The reporter I heard said that the levee close to Jackson Square and the aquarium on the riverfront has broken. I have been to NO many many times. I know where Jackson Square is. I know where the aquarium is. That would be the Mississippi River right there next to the aquarium, correct?
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yowzayowzayowza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 09:04 PM
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21. Yea, been there.
Familiar with that part of town. A river levee break would be REALLY BAD NEWS.

Still haven't found a link yet....
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:35 PM
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11. It did break. NO ordered evacuated.
fuck. I just got off watching tv news videos and am shocked. I knew it was bad, but thought that it might be partially internets inflated (internet news getting inflated I mean) but I was wrong. It is bad. They show pictures of different places, then more different place, then more different places, then more different places. Oh crap.
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tx_dem41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:44 PM
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13. PEOPLE....the Lake Pontchartrain levee broke last night...on the
north edge of town....the Mississippi River Levee did NOT break (thank GOD).
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:50 PM
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17. Isn't the Mississippi levee by the aquarium and Jackson Square?
MSNBC reporter just said that levee HAS broken and the mayor ordered NO evacuated. Maybe he was misinformed. But that's what I heard him say.
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Nikki Stone 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:55 PM
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19. From the WWLTV blog (levee is 17th st canal only)
8:04 P.M. - Mayor Nagin: Unhappy that the helicopters slated to drop 3,000-pound bags into the levee never showed up to stop the flow of water. Too many chiefs calling shots he says.

7:59 P.M. - Mayor Nagin: Pumps at 17th street canal has failed and water will continue pouring into the city. Nine feet of water is expected on St. Charles Avenue that will be nine feet high. Water is expected to spread throughout the east bank of Orleans and possibly Jefferson Parish. ...

6:41 P.M. - Efforts to stop the levee break at the 17th Street Canal have ended unsuccessfully and the water is expected to soon overwhelm the pumps in that area, allowing water to pour into the east bank of Metairie and Orleans to an expected height of 12-15 feet.
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:58 PM
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20. When there is flooding upriver, they let the swollen Miss River
waters into the Atchafalaya Basin. Around New Orleans, there is not just one long levee.
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