nothingshocksmeanymore
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Tue Aug-30-05 08:30 PM
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Anyone watching Larry King? It would shut up the "Why didn't they leave |
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crowd"
Blanco is on talking about how airlines cancelled outgoing flights which LEFT a lot of people stranded. Caller is saying his flight was cancelled..no rental cars were available..
Larry asked him about looting. The caller stated that he saw SOME lootig but MOST of what he saw was people looking for food. He stated there IS no food and water where he is and that people are hungry.
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Tue Aug-30-05 08:35 PM
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This is the first time in a year that I've missed television. I'd like to see what's going on, even if I'm only seeing one tiny facet of the problem.
So much is happening that we really don't have a clue. Every person in the disaster zone has a different story. We can't just lump them into categories like "too poor to leave," "too stupid to leave," "looters," etc.
I would like to see an end to flame wars over the hurricane. What has happened has happened. What will happen will happen. Now, let's see how we can help, shall we?
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OrangeCountyDemocrat
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Tue Aug-30-05 08:37 PM
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3. How Could A Hotel Be Out Of Food? |
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I stayed at Hotel Monaco before. It's about 2 blocks outside the Quarter, in the Central Business District. I'm wondering how a 4 Star Hotel could not have food or liquids? I'm assuming it's not full, but wouldn't they have enough for at least a few days on hand?
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Tue Aug-30-05 08:42 PM
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5. It surely wouldn't have enough to feed |
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everyone in NO who is hungry.
One story I found interesting was Brian Williams on TV this morning said when he went to bed last night, his hotel was safe and dry. But when he woke up, there was two feet of water in the lobby.
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Tue Aug-30-05 08:47 PM
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unless the kitchens and storage are on the third floor...Refrigerators don't work (no power)
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Tue Aug-30-05 09:18 PM
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that most of the stuff the hotel has would probably be perishable; for sit-down dinners. The drinks are probably soft drinks that mix soda syrup and carbonated water. There is probably very little that could just be eaten straight out unless it was fresh fruit or vegetables. And that's probably been contaminated.
Other than the bagged snacks at the gift shops, and bottled water from hotel fridges, hotels are not going to be the food mecca they would seem.
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Tue Aug-30-05 08:42 PM
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6. While I agree we need to help, one way we can help is to start |
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holding our government accountable for the very REAL incompetence they demonstrate with PLANNING or NOT THINKING of catastrophes. We also need to start holding our fellow citizens accountable for their voting patterns. Not even a YEAR after the San Diego fires, the community voted AGAINST funding emergency services even though many people would not have lost their homes and the losses would not have been so severe if they didn't let the lease on their water dropping helicopters lapse.
This is the ill effects of the Republican "starve government to feed the rich" echo chamber.
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Ladyhawk
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Tue Aug-30-05 09:42 PM
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19. Yeah, no kidding. I agree with you on that, as well. |
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I'm terrible in a debate, though. I get too emotional. I wish there was some way I could convince my family, but I think they are too set in their ways. :(
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Tue Aug-30-05 08:36 PM
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2. There was also a cruise ship that came into port on Sunday |
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and dumped all the passengers in New Orleans without any other assistance. Nice folks, not.
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Tue Aug-30-05 08:40 PM
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and the person who posted it came back later to say they had heard from their family members who were on this ship and it had gone on to Houston and did NOT make passengers get off in NO.
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Tue Aug-30-05 08:53 PM
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9. I hadn't heard that part |
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thanks for clearing that up for me. I hate to post misinformation.
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proud2BlibKansan
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Tue Aug-30-05 08:57 PM
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But my friend who works on cruise ships says it wouldn't surprise him in the least if a ship did that. So I am not shocked that you or anyone else believed it.
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Tue Aug-30-05 08:44 PM
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after Barbour made it real clear that he told Bush, who was raring to come down, to stay away, she finessed when Larry asked her if Bush offered to show up. Bush called, we've been on the phone many times, he's been very helpful.
Haley's either lying or Bush is playing favorites. Despicable, either way.
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Tue Aug-30-05 08:54 PM
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10. With all due respect to the people stuck in N.O. |
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My best friend died last year in a plane crash during a thunderstorm that was approximately 1/800th the ferocity of Katrina. I don't think that not filling up a bunch of planes that MIGHT make it out is a fair criticism.
What if only 1 out of 50 flights crashed? How about 2? How about 25?
Do you really think people would be looking at the bright side and saying, "Gee, half the flights managed to get out of the city. That's good, isn't it?"
Planes don't fly in dangerous weather. Neither do Helicopters. If they did, then there would have been a bunch flying around Monday morning, and there weren't. It's comparable to sending buses to rescue people from roads covered in 15 feet of water. It's foolish to do so.
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Tue Aug-30-05 08:58 PM
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13. The planes were gone Sunday morning |
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IIRC, the rain/wind didn't even start until Sunday afternoon/evening.
Still, there were no military troop transports that could get people to a safe haven, like DFW? Oh, that's right, they are playing in the sandbox.
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Tue Aug-30-05 09:05 PM
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14. No one is criticizing the airlines for cancelling flights |
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They're explaining why people remained in New Orleans - because they were stranded from cancelled flights and all the rental cars were taken. Had the majority of the LANG been at home with their trucks, of course, they could've had more groups evacuated. But they're in Iraq. With those non-armored trucks. Getting shot at and blown up. Meanwhile, people are stranded in a disaster zone in New Orleans.
Not everyone drives. Not everyone has a car. Some people had no choice but to remain because they had no ground transportation out. Where were the trucks? Where were the city buses? Where was Junior? Oh, right... He was having photo ops in California. His father sent 25,000 NG troops to Florida for Hurricane Andrew. The son sent 3,000 to Louisiana. What a leader. :eyes:
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Tue Aug-30-05 09:11 PM
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16. The governor was criticising the airlines for cancelling flights |
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on Larry King. She said she was 'very disappointed' in the decision. She also said that the weather was fine through Sunday morning.
As for the NG, they are all in Iraq.
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Tue Aug-30-05 09:43 PM
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20. These are the same airlines that the pubs bailed out after 9-11, eh? |
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Just floatin' a thought out there...
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Tue Aug-30-05 09:11 PM
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17. Self delete..posted twice |
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Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 09:12 PM by renie408
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Hubert Flottz
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Tue Aug-30-05 08:55 PM
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11. The Freepers are here like flies on shit today! |
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DAMN!
If your kids were hungry and you didn't do ANYTHING you could, to feed them, then YOU WOULD BE A CRIMINAL TOO, just like the ones who ARE stealing things they don't need to survive.
Hell BUSH has stolen the country blind and the freepers have no problem with that. But the "Compassionate" conservatives would shoot someone, because they scrounged some food when they are hungry, tired, cold, scared, lost everything they own and were abandoned because they couldn't afford to leave.
It's the government's fault that most of those people had no way out of that trap! * HOMELAND SECURITY MY ASS! * MORALITY MY ASS!
I'm thankful I'm not "Compassionate" like them fucks!
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Tue Aug-30-05 09:07 PM
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15. Watch them hop on this topic like the savages they are |
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Tue Aug-30-05 09:48 PM
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21. A Lot Of People Made The Wrong CHOICE & Stayed. Accept It. |
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It's lamentable but can't be changed. Stop trying to ignore that.
A lot of the looting is for CRAP like jewelry and electronics. Accept it and stop apologising for the reptilian behavior.
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