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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:40 PM
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It is time for the most ambitious environmental restoration project ever!
unfortunately the government should condemn much of the destroyed property for exactly this purpose.

I am in no way opposed to paying property owners for their land to be reclaimed for natural beaches, barrier islands and marshes and swamps.

it would be a big plus for a lot of property owners who didn't have flood insurance, for some it would be a big loss, but for the Gulf Coast as a whole and thus the nation it would be the only right thing to do in the face of global warming and rising sea level
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:45 PM
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1. Amen! It's about time to start thinking this way!
Did you hear the environmentalist on CNN about an hour ago?

He said the levees are what has caused NO to be below sea level. Without normal silt deposit the land just keeps on sinking behind the levees!!
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:51 PM
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4. yeah, i did catch that
Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 08:56 PM by tk2kewl
i used to work as an environmental scientist in a planning dept in a coastal municipality on L.I. We used to talk about how the government should condemn all of the multi-million dollar homes along the cost and raze them.

the long term (50-75 yr) cost benefit analysis would probably be favorable when you look at federal flood insurance payouts and constantly trying to prevent the dynamic geologic processes of barrier islands and ocean beaches with structures and pumping sand up onto the beach from offshore
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Eloriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:46 PM
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2. Definitely has merit. n/t
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 09:00 PM
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6. It beats the hell out of spending all our tax dollars on killing people
with our war machine
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Don Claybrook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:49 PM
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3. Calculate the odds of Bush EVER doing environmental restoration
Especially when it costs untold tens of billions of dollars. Great idea, but we have a sociopath at the helm.
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 08:54 PM
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5. environmentalists have been calling for this for decades
it is the only way not to repeat this disaster sometime in the next decade of two. this needs to make it into the mainstream discussions about the response to this disaster
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 09:23 PM
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The River Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 09:29 PM
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8. During The Great Flood of 1927
New Orleans made a decision which layed the
foundation of the present day disaster.

"As the flood approached New Orleans, Louisiana 30 tons of dynamite were set off on the levee at Caernarvon, Louisiana and sent 250,000 ft³/s (7,000 m³/s) of water pouring through. This prevented New Orleans from experiencing serious damage but destroyed much of the marsh below the city.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Mississippi_Flood_of_1927

This destruction of the wetlands diminished protection from hurricanes
coming off the Gulf.
Returning it to a natural state is a good idea...but one that won't be followed.



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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 09:40 PM
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10. the understanding of natural hydrology wasn't as deep
and didn't have the same widespread recognition it does today. this really needs to be part of the national debate. i agree it will not be followed to the degree necessary, i just hope it is at least made a small part of the plan
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 09:31 PM
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9. But Bush has to restore the marshes
in Iraq first.

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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 08:58 AM
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