let me break it down for the DU conservatives

[datasuspect]

eh, why bother?

why should i have to argue with fucking conservatives on a liberal/democratic/progressive website?

howsabout this: take your asses off to NOLA and see if you can feed these devastated people a heaping helping of armchair morality.

tv's? dvd players? BIG FUCKING DEAL.

SO WHAT!?!?

i get a thrill from seeing the downtrodden and poor taking back some power and just grabbing what they can. the whole place is FLOODED. thousands of HOMES are DESTROYED.

SOMETHING LIKE THIS DOES A LOT TO ERODE HOPE.

it's just material shit anyway.

and btw, i don't have a t.v. to steal.

[swag]

1. Atrios' post to the media on his blog was spot on here,

http://atrios.blogspot.com/2005_08_28_atrios_archive.html#112545372093464075

"Note to the Media


New Orleans is being destroyed. Looting, especially by those who are obtaining food, water, and other necessities, is about number 589 on the list of things which matter right now."

[merbex]

16. Looting while in the midst of a flood doesn't come close to

the definition of looting in my book

But that's just me

I'd call it survival

[tmooses]

2. The masses have been so culturally brainwashed by the marketing

campaigns of these corporations that in the middle of a disaster, the first thing they can think of is carting of the designer clothes they have been told they need to be cool.

[Chovexani]

6. Truer words...(n/t)

[stray cat]

3. Do you also support the looters who are shooting policemen?

[datasuspect]

5. you probably wouldn't like my answer

but i am not a big fan of police.

[Joe the Revelator]

12. So you support the killing of another human..

because of the job that the do? An you're trying to lecture others on this board about being a real "liberal"?

[datasuspect]

20. i didn't say that now, did i?

you said it?

and why are you so cock strong to put words in my mouth.

i didn't say anything about anyone being a real "anything."

just shouting out to the freeptard lurkers who aren't really even trying to hide themselves anymore.

[donco6]

25. You certainly implied it.

Don't be obtuse.

[datasuspect]

33. i'm not

lots of people die everyday.

i don't shed crocodile tears for anyone. just real tears for family and friends.

[liberalnurse]

18. Then, you are not fond of me.....

I work in law enforcement.

[datasuspect]

23. like i said

i don't really dig cops.

nothing personal.

[Telly Savalas]

21. You don't like T.J. Hooker?

Great fuckin' show.

[datasuspect]

24. that is some great cop drag right there

you got me on this one.

[liberalnurse]

14. Sounds like it to me......

Looting is a selfish, greedy crime. If someone is wanting water or nutrition, I can let it pass but anything else is an abomination.

[datasuspect]

39. an "abomination?"

holy fuck.

you value possessions that much?

[madeline_con]

19. Searching the people going into the Superdome...

was mentioned earlier as if it were a bad thing. They said they'd found firearms.

[bpilgrim]

29. what kinda juvenile nonsense is this

:eyes:

peace

[fishnfla]

4. Let me break it down for you

Looters should be shot and left to rot

they're just scum anyway

[datasuspect]

8. yeah

shit, god knows that merchandise is almost fucking holy.

"culture of life" my ass

[liberalnurse]

32. It is not theirs for the taking.

Shoot them!

[Spider Jerusalem]

42. With Tasers!!!

:eyes:

[Eloriel]

35. Well, if you stop and think about it, our laws are built to

protect property and property owners much better than people and people's rights. It's very clear to me that STUFF is more important than PEOPLE.

I like what Atrios said.

[markus]

22. What about the cops who looted (walgreens still?) on Canal St

earlier today, who told a reporter they were taking water and medicine for people in a hotel.

So, the rich people get the police to loot for them?

If people are taking food, they should be left alone. I'd include beer.

If they're taking TV, they should be arrested.

But frankly, the police have better things to be doing right now, like save people still trapped in their attics in Bywater.

[madeline_con]

27. Some people only had food and water...

It wasn't like they were driving cars out of showrooms.

[Name removed]

28. Deleted message

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[bpilgrim]

38. "they're just scum anyway" rummy is that you?

http://news.globalfreepress.com/mp3/katrina/looting_will_be_treated_ruthlessly.mp3
that'll give ya a woody, enjoy

peace

[Joe the Revelator]

7. There is no viable excuse for taking the possessions of others...

unless you need those possessions to survive and if by taking said possessions you will not hurt someone else's chances of survival.

Thats why I support "looting" food, but cannot rationalize taking "TVs and DVDs"

Also, are you saying that in order to be a liberal, one has to support stealing?

[datasuspect]

9. whoo boy

i'm stating my opinion.

i don't speak for everybody.

[never_get_over_it]

44. But in stating your opinion

you decided to determine who is liberal and who isn't. I think you said why should i fucking argue with conservatives on a liberal website. I got news for you I think the looting is disgusting and I'm a liberal. I've been on this board since close to the beginning. So I'm just asking who the fuck appointed you to decide who is liberal or conservative. It is a question of morality - stealing is stealing - but since I am a bleeding heart I might excuse food and water - but for God's sake now they're shooting people.

[orpupilofnature57]

17. SURVIVAL!

[Joe the Revelator]

26. Sorry for the spelling mistakes in that post...

I worked a 13 hour day and forgot to hit the spell check button. My bad.

[madeline_con]

10. My apologies...

I just this second watched a video on Faux of "looters". Grabbing food and drinks in a store. my 10 y.o. can't sleep, said I HAD to see this to believe it...

I noticed none of the perfume display was messed with.

(That's not to say some poeple won't take advantage.)

Most is for survival, it seems. I'd do the same thing, and I know it! :blush:

[orpupilofnature57]

11. datasuspect, I suggest Todd Rundgren. DU conservatives, what are ya nuts?

[datasuspect]

13. they are here

i see dumb people!

[KittyWampus]

15. you get a thrill from the suspension of law & order? hope you don't get

shot in the head buddy.

cause violence is the next step after looting.

[Telly Savalas]

Law and Order is OK.

It's just all of those idiotic spinoffs like Special Victims Unit which are annoying.

[datasuspect]

31. that's why i am well-armed.

and violence is an integral part of the american psyche.

this country was founded on violence. it's what we are good at.

[madeline_con]

Somebody finally said it... on DU no less!

Good for you. and true words!

[Qibing Zero]

40. Law does not equal order, and the slippery slope is a fallacy. nt

[Field Of Dreams]

30. We have met the enemy and he is us

And what you do with a shopping cart full of stolen tennis shoes when you are surrounded by water is beyond me.

[Swede]

34. Being a liberal does equal being an anarchist.

Taking food I would not consider looting in this situation. Taking others property is theft.

[Telly Savalas]

41. Aren't you totally pissed off that the Leafs didn't get Anson Carter?

I am.

[stillcool]

36. I hear you....

Who knew there were so many ignorant, bigoted, small-minded, self-righteous, money-loving, up-tight, form before function progressives?

[manic expression]

37. I completely agree

These people are left to fend for themselves in a HURRICANE, and others who are sitting pretty in their safe houses expect them to not take unreasonable things for a.) survival and b.) a little luxury (like something to wipe their a**es with), something denied to those same people on a constant basis. It is ridiculous.

[Moderator]

43. Locking this thread.

Please refrain from posting flamebait.
Thank you for reading this, and thank you in advance for helping the moderators and administrators of Democratic Underground try and maintain civility for all to enjoy.

[The Magistrate]

45. locking

There was a glitch....