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joanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:12 PM
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The NG needs to be a huge story
I mean, of course, lack thereof.... because so many are in IRAQ.

This is an absolute outrage.

The NG is supposed to protect and help AMERICANS. They should NEVER have been sent to Iraq.

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
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SunDrop23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:13 PM
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1. Agree 100%
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:13 PM
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2. That and the story about how President Nero gutted FEMA
almost immediately upon stealing his way into office.
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KAZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:15 PM
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5. And strummed while NOLA sank.
Think we'll see it? Right.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:20 PM
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10. On the Corporate owned media? No.
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:14 PM
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3. I agree. The NG AND the billions * recently cut from LA disaster funding
Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 10:15 PM by ultraist
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blue sky at night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:15 PM
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4. national emergencies are......
just a theory. I say we blame it on........Anyone for Golf?
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:18 PM
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8. You know, it's a real shame. I look at that pic of George and
realize what a great used car dealer the world has lost with him as president.
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blue sky at night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:22 PM
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are they still as disliked as.......
this moran? I would rate him at the bottom of that totem pole. See those clubs, wouldn't you like to just...............
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chicagiana Donating Member (993 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:26 PM
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13. We'll see ...

We'll see if people are finally starting to figure out the Bush "formula" in the next couple weeks.

1) Enact disastrous short-sighted policies.
2) Play "Macho Man" to the press corps while your friends gut the federal government.
3) Act the big "hero" when your idiotic policies tips the nation into an emergency situtation.


Obviously right now the #1 priority is helping the poor souls affected recover. But I wonder if our nation has a long enough attention span to scrutinize the series of short sighted idiotic policies 2 months after the disaster that they brought about.


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marzipanni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:35 PM
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14. Bush*: Hey, why're you holding that club over my head?!!
Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 10:35 PM by marzipanni
Us: We're giving you what's coming to you -the WMD! The Whuppin' for Massive Deception!!!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:58 PM
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17. I'd like to see him tried and hanged for war crimes.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:41 AM
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23. Not a one is nearly as dangerous.
Edited on Wed Aug-31-05 02:02 AM by Kurovski
Which is kind of the point. it's sad--and I do mean profoundly sad-- that he's not shilling questionable cars instead of catastrophic policies with that "personable", "down-to-Earth" personality, single-mindedness and dishonesty of his.

Just some dark humor for a dark time.

I know you're being humorous too, but I have no desire at all to club anyone.

Like posters above me, I just want to see justice done. I want more bravery, honesty and humility in how we deal with the world, and most certainly in our own poor, battered nation

Just like George said about how our foreign policy should be. He said it what seems like decades ago in 2000.

He said "humility", but perhaps George thought it meant "humiliation."

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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:55 PM
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16. My husband is a used car manager. I can tell you he has more integrity
than bush ever could think of claiming to have!
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:58 AM
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25. I know, it's a stereotype.
See my post #23 above for clarification.

Bush would be the guy moving clunkers without looking back.

Maybe your husband has run into guys like that?

Most folks wouldn't have cars at all if it weren't for the used car dealers doing what amounts to recycling! :-)
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:17 PM
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6. Not only that, the DELAY in getting any Federal assistance mobilized.
Along with the Coward continuing his vacation.

The Congressional Democrats MUST initiate investigations of all this, once things settle down.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:17 PM
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7. I hope CNN shows their graphic again ...
Edited on Tue Aug-30-05 10:18 PM by Lisa
They had it up earlier today -- showing that Mississippi and Louisiana had contributed heavily to National Guard units now in Iraq (40% and 35% of each state's current personnel respectively). As had Alabama and Florida, though not in as high a % (and they didn't get hit as hard by Katrina, either).

I was nearly floored when I saw that information.
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:19 PM
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9. any red vs. blue state NG contribution stats? n/t
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:22 PM
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12. Which doesn't square with the numbers I read
but I can't remember where I got them. I thought I saw that 3000 NG went from LA to Iraq, leaving 1500 for NOLA.
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Lisa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:58 PM
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18. just found another figure ...
This seems to be fairly close to the CNN info -- 35% for Louisiana and 37% for Mississippi. Apparently it's from the Mercury News:

http://www.michaelmoore.com/mustread/index.php?id=483
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:20 PM
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11. Yep, anytime ANY member of the junta goes out in public, we need to shout
them down with questions about the Guard being frittered away on a war for profiteering corporations, leaving the Homeland (their word) totally unprotected.

We gotta be so loud and so constant that the bastards become captive in their fucking offices. Hound them like Cindy hounded the Chicken In Crawford! Do not let them know a moment free of righteous wrath at the price America pays for 'stay the course' when that course is insane.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 10:51 PM
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15. Stay the course
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redacted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 11:05 PM
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19. I am guessing NG issue is the ultimate cause of this:
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 11:07 PM
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20. Agreed
Nominated.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 11:34 PM
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21. We should all start raising hell with our state governors.
DEMAND the return of our National Guards!

I've also had some darker thoughts about this: Think about the implications of this: Nat'l Guard in Iraq, NorthCom HERE.

sw
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-30-05 11:41 PM
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22. You are so right.
We have to make a big stink of this somehow so that it gets in the news, even if they don't like it. Cindy Sheehan might have given us the way. We need Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi families of NG overseas and residents as well to sit in protest on the White House and demand answers. Just a question like Cindy posed, "For what noble cause did my son die?"

Louisianans and Mississippians et al need to ask him. "Why didn't we have our NG here when the hurricane struck?". Not necessarily this question but something like it that makes a statement.
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katamaran Donating Member (352 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-31-05 01:48 AM
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24. I do feel sorry for the guardsmen and women in Iraq right now...
...who CAN'T go home to help their families and friends. As bad as communications are within the US, they're ten times worse from Iraq to the gulf coast. All of those people not being able to contact their families, don't know what they will come home to, if they come home to anything at all.

If anything, they need to be brought home for their own sanity and well-being.
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