Stranded in New Orleans will be dead soon....No Water in 3 DAYS!

[Roland99]

Humans cannot survive long without water, esp. the elderly and the very young.


This is just so freakin' tragic.


:( :(

[YOY]

1. They'll get water

Chill out with the panic attacks.

[karlrschneider]

7. Good. When?

:eyes:

[YOY]

22. Like I'm supposed to know!

If they can be helped they will. It appears that every and all efforts to help are going in.

Have faith in the efforts of those helping and cease with the damn panic attacks.

[karlrschneider]

24. You sounded pretty goddamn certain in post #1, now you don't know.

Nice work, junior.

[YOY]

28. It sounds like you've got all the answers. So why hastle me?

nice work senior.

Don't mistake my lack of panic for a lack of empathy. There is no reason to.

be optimistic and for crying out loud,
NOW STOP WITH THE PANICKING!

[geomon666]

34. This bickering isn't helping anybody n/t

[Ladyhawk]

55. geomon, everyone is really emotional. I've seen the tension from it

cause a lot of unnecessary flamewars on GD. At first I was upset, but now I think I understand what's going on: people are just freaked. They are on the edge of raw emotion and are having trouble containing it.

We need mods like you to remind us that the bickering doesn't help, but it might also be a good idea to realize why this is happening.

Thanks, geomon. :hug:

[geomon666]

57. I understand

I just want people to try to stay calm and not freak out all over the place. :)

[Bouncy Ball]

46. You don't seem to have a handle on the scope of this situation.

There's no way they can get clean water in to the thousands and thousands of people who are stranded. People are dying of dehydration and they will continue to for the next few days.

That's not panic. That's facts. The way things are with the water levels, lack of accessibility, there's just no way enough potable water can be brought to those people. There's too many of them and they're too hard to get to.

It's tragic, to say the least.

[YOY]

58. There us nothing I can do about it but to be optimistic

and the same goes for you unless you can get there to help.

I have hope that the rescue and humanitarian efforts will shine through.

Even when in difficult situations I make a steady and thoughtful effort not to panic. It helps me to handle the situation and makes me about twenty times more effective than those who act like it is the end of the world. It also has allowed a couple of people to call me an emotionless b*****d.

Have hope, if it is all you can do. If you can get there to help then get there. When hope fails then it fails. Panicking will help nothing and nobody.

[Bouncy Ball]

59. Who, exactly, is panicking?

I see no all caps posts around here. I see no Chicken Littles.

I was simply telling you that while I am holding out hope, of course, I WANT those people to make it, I am also a realist. And I know what I know.

[geomon666]

60. We always want to hope for the best though

No harm in doing that.

But we also want to be real. So let's try to be realistic optimists. :)

[Bouncy Ball]

61. Which is exactly what I'm saying.

The other poster was trying to make out some here to be panicking and I see no panicking, simply pointing that out.

I want the best result. But short of a miracle, it's not looking good, water-wise.

[Roland99]

10. N.O. is a large city and people are stranded all over the place.

[spuddonna]

15. Panic attack? I just watched a sheriff BEGGING for water ...

in St. Bernards on WWL. They had a ferry that was full of people, several were literally passing out from dehydration on the deck as they were filming.

[kenny blankenship]

41. I saw that too, unbelievable

but then again since it's been clear from the first sunrise after Katrina that not enough help was coming in, you have to believe the unbelievable things you're seeing are real. When the reporter asked Is this the worst you've ever seen? I thought the old guy was going snap and kill him.

[spuddonna]

66. Yeah, when he he said "Shit..." I thought he was going to snap too...

Either that or cry... I know I was crying watching it...

[malta blue]

18. Nice attitude

[YOY]

23. Yes, being level-headed is a horrible attitude

Don't mistake it for a lack of empathy.

[malta blue]

25. Perhaps you should have worded it a little more gently then...

your tone suggested otherwise.
-peace

[Bouncy Ball]

48. I'm level-headed enough to know

some magical water fairy isn't going to arrive with millions of gallons of potable water in the next 12-24 hours, which means plenty of people will die of dehydration in that time frame. They're dying now.

Don't mistake realistic for panicky.

[chascarrillo]

31. Panic attacks from WWL

3:40 P.M. - WWL photographer Willie Wilson: People being rescued from Chalmette were begging for water, wanted to talk to family members. People rescued in Chalmette were ferried across to Algiers. People hot and parched from days on roof tops.

3:43 P.M. - Photographer Willie Wilson: Those rescued from Chalmette homes are dazed, don't know where they are going and just asking for water and to find family members.

3:44 P.M. - Tugboat captain who rescued those in Chalmette. "Without more help, many people will die."

3:46 P.M. - Tugboat captain: We have so little help. Send us some food and water immediately!

3:49 P.M. - Survivor from Chalmette: We spent two days on a roof, swam to a storefront, food was pouring out, we ate it, we drank the water. We had to do something. There's no help.

3:54 P.M. - Wilson: People were passing out in the heat in front of me.

http://www.wwltv.com/local/stories/WWLBLOG.ac3fcea.html

[Roland99]

35. Add in Methodist Hospital begging for help.

[Gloria]

2. Why aren't helos dropping big pallets of bottle water??

This is incredible....Oh, where are all the ASSETS being brought in???

[ewagner]

3. I feel helpless

I can't go down there and hand them water....I can't get water down there to them.....

where the hell is the relief????

[Jersey Devil]

4. Maybe that explains some of the fires

Maybe people boiling contaminated water out of desperation.

[Roland99]

9. That's what I'm thinking. Starting fires with matches/cigs/lighters?

[spuddonna]

19. Lots of fires from natural gas lines rupturing, too... n/t

[LSparkle]

5. More blood on Bush's hands

He's going to have a LOT to answer for when he meets up with his master (whoever that ends up being).

[patrice]

6. Can't airplanes drop things to them? Where are the airplanes?

. . . ?

[Xtreme]

8. Dont you know the military planes are busy?

Bombing a desert?

[patrice]

26. ALL of them???

Where are the "other" airplanes? You know, the ones for that "War on ALL Fronts" some a-hole was pitching a few years ago.

Un-ending War is real.

[Don Claybrook]

11. Unfortunately, there is one source of water

It's all around, and these people will do the same thing you or I would do when faced with death by dehydration: they'll drink the toxic water that's all around them.

[leveymg]

17. That's precisely why so many will die.

That and typhoid.

[leftofthedial]

12. the bushturd's arrogant, narcissistic negligence

is yet ONE MORE FUCKING CRIME that bastard has inflicted on thousands of innocents.

[One_Life_To_Give]

13. Are the Taps still working?

I know they lost a 50in main. And as a result the residents were going to be advised to boil their water. But are the taps still working?

[Roland99]

16. If they could get to them. Most homes are flooded.

[karlrschneider]

21. I have heard several times there's either no city water or it's contaminat

ed.

[leveymg]

14. There are tons of bottled water, but it's in supply depots

They didn't plan for this, even though they had plenty of time to do so. It points out the utterly paralyzed, brainless nature of the federal gov't under BushCo.

[atreides1]

27. Bush had priorities

He had to sell his medicaid and social security rip offs to hand picked audiences, he had to have birthday cake with his bitch McCain,
and then he had to go to a military base and compare WWII with Iraq.

All of this was much more important then making sure that preparations were being made for a worst caes scenario.

[SammyWinstonJack]

43. So frikking pissed!

:grr:

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

62. Since the beginning...

...of Bushco's illegitimate reign, mindless ineptitude has repeatedly been demonstrated as their Achilles Heal. Hopefully, one day soon, it will be their downfall.

[geomon666]

20. And it's hot

That affects how long someone can survive without water. These people are running out of time.

[jpak]

29. The military has large-capacity R/O water purifiers

I don't know why they don't have one in NO somewhere...

[G_j]

30. four days

and the kidneys can start to fail, at least that is what I was told by a doctor once.

[rodeodance]

32. clean water is scarse no matter how you look at it. They need h2o NOW>

[G_j]

37. they sure do!

I was agreeing that time is VERY short.

[geomon666]

36. You can live for 2 days in 120 degree weather with no water.

It's in the low 90's to high 80's, plus high level humidity makes the temp feel even hotter.

[Roland99]

38. Is that for a healthy young lad or for the elderly and the infants?

[incapsulated]

39. There are babies passing out on the highway

For lack of water and the heat. They were just able to get a family with a 5-day old baby who was burning up and limp out by car, they were lucky, who knows how many are in the same situation with no one to help.

This is criminal.

[geomon666]

44. That's the "average" person supposedly. n/t

[skygazer]

54. Add in stress and fear

As well as increased physical effort because many of these people are working to get out or get to safety or move from one place to another - they're not at rest. All those factors increase the need for water. Horrible, horrible.... :cry:

[Roland99]

33. Methodist Hospital in eastern N.O. PLEADING for help. No food/no water!!

[BronxBoy]

49. I'm not the brightest bulb in the box

But couldn't they land some food and water on the roof? That's not under water is it?

edited for spelling

[geomon666]

51. They probably could

But will they? That's the real question.

[buddysmellgood]

40. Hopefully people will be resourceful enough to boil water or take bottled

water from the stores.

[Roland99]

45. If they can get to stores. 20' of water in many places

Also, how are they going to boil it?

Survivor: New Orleans.

[buddysmellgood]

47. Good point.

[Bouncy Ball]

50. With what's in that water, boiling won't help.

Neither will plain old chlorine bleach. There's rotting flesh from animals and humans in that water, human waste of other kinds, gas and oil from vehicles, chemicals from factories, who know what else.

[karlrschneider]

53. Boiling that gunk they're swimming in won't remove many of the

poisonous contaminents (hydrocarbons for example)

[Qibing Zero]

42. This is what I'm talking about

Every minute counts when you're in a situation like this, but either people don't seem to recognize this, or they don't seem to care. * gets up and talks about what is going on and how long a process it is, but the food, water, and essentials supposedly being sent are days late! People like us can donate and offer ourselves up to help with the aftermath, but we have no control over the situation that occurs in the first few days. The people who do have that control - mainly the president - did nothing at the time. THAT is what sickens me.

It's been mentioned before - we evacuated seven thousand some people from Saigon in 19 hours, 30 years ago, yet this situation is utterly helpless?

[Bouncy Ball]

52. He didn't even seem to have the tiniest bit of urgency about him.

Not at all. But hell he could hardly pronounce the speech. He did pretty well for being drunk, though.

[tblue37]

64. He said "a" very clearly and forcefully during his speech--

like a first-grader reading aloud from a primary reader.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

56. This is why I am in absolute sympathy with the people who took

beer and other alcoholic beverages from the stores.

I spent five weeks in China in mostly 90 degree plus weather drinking nothing but beer, tea, and the occasional Coke. All of these are supposed to be dehydrating, but when your body really needs the moisture, it retains even caffeinated and alcoholic beverages.

[Roland99]

63. Yeah...I definitely understand some degree of looting now.

Pure survival.

[Roland99]

65. Check this out from the WWL blog:

quote:
9:17 P.M. - E-mail report from viewer Jorge Bravo: My good friend, Mark Ottman, from Berkeley, CA, has been staying at the Fairmont since Friday. I haven't been able to get through to him today, but I did speak to him last night, using the main hotel phone number. He told me that were guests still trapped there, staff, and even families of staff, who have moved into the hotel. He estimated about 1000 people there, with a lot of people camped out in the halls. There's no plumbing, no electricity, no water, and no food. As of last night there was a couple of feet of water on Baronne St.; I suspect it got higher today. I was able to reach the hotel operator again today, but not my friend. The operator said that as of early this afternoon there hadn't been any evacuations. Hope this info helps. I would be grateful for any info you might have.