The Christian right--trouble a brewin'?

[bliss_eternal]

Unless I missed something, quite a few black churches garnered votes for the royal one. Yet, I've heard a few reports, here on DU about some derogatory comments about NOLA survivors made on Christian radio.

Am I accurate in thinking that whole facade is about to crumble?

:evilgrin:

Seriously, I can't help but wonder how some of the black church leaders that encouraged their congregations to vote for shrub are feeling right now?

[I_Make_Mistakes]

1. It has been happening for a while (the RW will mostly be RW),

There are Catholic, Lutheran, Methodist, Presbyterian, etc, you get the drift RW affiliates (mostly moderates). Katrina has pushed them over the edge, the abortion issue and gay marriage issue, will no longer play with them. I hate to say this, but, this is the Big wake up call among moderates. Katrina, with her death toll, will, let us focus on the living and not un-born!

[Skittles]

3. they just can't hide this one, you know?

they can spin like tops but it is front and center on TV - they see the suffering, the neglect for themselves - and believe me, only a real sociopath could not feel for the babies, the children they see in all that destruction

[I_Make_Mistakes]

4. They will try, they have no conscience, but you are right

[bliss_eternal]

6. I sure hope you're right...

:hi:

[WePurrsevere]

12. Other then the extreme RW fundies...

I think it has.... I truly hope it has.

Those who call themselves Christians need to ask themselves "Am I my brothers keeper?" and then look to what did Jesus SAY about taking care of others... one that comes immediately to mind is the story of the "Good Samaritan" (by the way Chritians need to not just read that story but know more about who the two involved were.. they too often don't). Another one to look to guidance from would be "The Sermon On The Mount" in Matthew, not Luke (Matthew was an eye witness.. Luke just relayed the story). :)

[FreedomAngel82]

23. I hope you're right

I get so tired of them talking about abortion all the time. That's a very very personal choice and belief as well (when the fetus is a baby etc) and should stay personal. Instead why not worry about the living and find out why women have abortions and work on that instead of wanting to overturn a law that helps protect women (especially those that need to have an abortion).

[DoYouEverWonder]

2. By their deeds you shall know them

and the people who do take christianity seriously are finally seeing that.

[GoBlue]

5. fundamentally misleading

"and the people who do take christianity seriously are finally seeing that". Think about it.

[amandabeech]

7. And he wouldn't let the Southern Baptist and Salvation Army

into New Orleans to help the hungry, thirsty and sick.

I'm sure the SB's thought that they'd be welcomed with open arms after all the votes they delivered to him.

[bliss_eternal]

9. Let's hope they are as horrified as we've all been...

:scared:

[bliss_eternal]

8. How could those so-called Christians have said

what they did on the radio? :crazy:

Then a friend said she heard some saying that the hurrican funnel was shaped like a fetus! So it was sent (by the lord, presumably)as punishment for NOLA allowing abortions in it's state.

:wtf:

If that's Christianity--something is REALLY wrong!!!

[WePurrsevere]

11. Someone posted about that here as well...

apparently this email circulating mentioned it was "orange"... that right there would more likely indicate that it was not sent by God" but by Science... they enhance the images that way.

Also it was mentioned that it looked like a fetus at about 6 weeks... first of all I can see a dragon in the clouds too with a bit of imagination... second of all... IF it did look like a fetus at about 6 weeks what makes them so sure it was a human fetus? The fetus of many animals look very very similar at some point in their gestation... so we could also say that Mother Nature is sending a message about how mankind is hurting and killing her beloved animals.

As an artist, parent, etc I know that spiritual faith and imagination can be amazing and wonderful things but logic and science also need to have a place for balance to exist and I also tend to believe that any Divine worth it's salt also believes that way.

[bliss_eternal]

15. Great points--

it's a shame they are too short sighted to even consider them. Hopefully others that aren't short sighted will...

I agree with you!

[Pharlo]

24. These are the same people who see

the Virgin Mary in water stains under a Chicago underpass...

A 'Cristian' lunatic is still a lunatic.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

10. Bush is weak at the base too on Supremes

Bush must try to satisfy the hard so-called-Christian right with a hard right replacement for Rehnquist, but in his weakened state he may not be able to get enough support in the Senate for a hard right replacement.

[KharmaTrain]

13. Remember Terry Schaivo? They Do

That's strike one. When meester boosh didn't move heaven and earth to keep a brain dead person brain dead. That was the first strike.

Roberts is not going over well either...believe it or not, many think he's too MODERATE. While we've found a papertrail on the guy, these people don't do the homework unless it involves Bill Clinton's penis.

There are other iritations as well. The war is taking a toll on some...not necessarily their support of either the war or troops, but in meester boosh's motives and honesty about what's going on. Not everyone was comfortable with the Sheehan...doesn't look good for a big man to bully on a woman.

The blacks were open to some Repugnican messing with gay marriage, but that was maybe 10% or so of the vote. Consider that gone.

As a black friend told me..."this storm has doomed the GOOP with blacks for the next two generations".

[bliss_eternal]

16. I thought strike one was when the boy king was

confirmed and didn't immediately reverse Roe V. Wade. I heard that many on the radical right were pretty pissed about that and felt completely betrayed. They delivered votes for him and he didn't move heaven and earth to turn back time for them...

But I could very well be wrong. Just something I heard buzzing about.

Either way, two big issues that didn't sit well with them--Schiavo and Roe v. Wade still existing.

[FreedomAngel82]

25. Just from watching these people

I don't think they'd ever get rid of Roe V Wade. What else would they have to talk about to win votes?

[bliss_eternal]

26. lol--I never thought of it that way...

It's interesting, though. A while back--a freeper on another board I used to frequent (it got too hateful), said he honestly believed roe v wade would never be overturned. When others asked why, he responded that it would be political suicide on the part of the gop if they did so.

While I can see his point in this, it doesn't seem that the boy king and his crew think this way at all. It seems they are more the 'let's get everything we can, while we can' kind of people. As opposed to the 'give a little, take a little' kind of politicians.

So many rw-ers have been wrong about so much that their party has done. Do they even KNOW what party they are signed on with?

[xchrom]

14. don't expect anybody paranoid about gay folk

and drooling for federal dollars to give up on the chimpster.

greed and hate have funny ways of crossing colour barriers.

african americans who were already suspicious are more so -- african americans hopped up on geezus juice -- in that way that white folk are -- will remain so.

[HEyHEY]

17. I'm shocked fundies haven't said it's "God's wrath for NO's sinful ways"

[bliss_eternal]

28. I've heard that one.

I think it was Friday or Saturday, some of them were saying it was punishment for allowing abortions in their state, the sins of Mardi Gras, and all the gays in their state...

:eyes:

HI, HeyHey!
:hi:

[alfredo]

18. They sold out their congregation for a few

pieces of gold.

[alfredo]

19. ignore this. Hit the post button twice

I said, ignore this, dammit!

[Arugula Latte]

20. But, Bush is such a godly Sociopath ...

Why wouldn't they want to continue to support him? Such a prayerful mass murderer, he is ...

[bridgit]

21. i think that is reasonable to conclude...

if ever 'the right' may chide dems for their use of the black vote? then let 'the christian right' make no further mistake about the notion of what is usury in a biblical sense & what is not.

[FreedomAngel82]

22. I remember hearing

someone called in, I believe it was, Mike Malloy's show. It was either his show or Mike Webb's. But this person was saying how a lot of the GOP officials were giving black church's money in return of votes and encouraging their members to vote for Bush.

[bliss_eternal]

29. I heard that, too...

Kind of disturbing.

[onager]

27. Won't make a bit of difference.

We're dealing with Magical Thinkers here. They all worship a strange sort of omnipotent yet incompetent invisible-man-in-the-sky. When you have that mindset, pretending you never said (or heard) something is a piece of cake...even with audio recordings.

The Belchers Of Sacred Platitudes on Xian radio will simply claim they were "misquoted," probably by evil atheists or gays. And all gawd's chillun will continue to happily shear their flocks.

Count on it.