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Tue Sep-06-05 09:57 AM
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Shrub is going to get away with it. |
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I saw one poll that showed that 48% believed shrub has done a good job dealing with the disaster. How could that be? Truth is, there are a lot of smoke screens and distractions going up now. The media is talking about the mayor and others, but I've heard very little in the MSM about shrub's incompetence in this disaster. They only mention shrub when he goes to the gulf coast and hugs some people. They are almost completely ignoring the fundamental issue: why did it take so long to send in the military? (Once the military arrived the situation began to improve dramatically).
Many are saying that the people should have been evacuated before the hurricane, even some on this board are repeating this talking point; but no one is saying how the 200,000 people could have been evacuated in time. (200,000 in two days when it was taking several hours to get out of NO, and where do you take them?)
Shrub has gotten away with an abundance of corruption and incompetence in the last five years, is there any doubt he will get away with this? Yet, a couple of weeks ago, when I posted that we need a voice in the MSM, no one thought it would make a difference. We need a lot of voices in the MSM. The more the better.
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Tue Sep-06-05 10:02 AM
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1. Lots of smoke going up, for sure. I'll have to wait and see how the |
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story is reported in the following days and weeks. there's still a lot of people pissed. someone, prob. fema director or chertof, will have to resign so the question is whether people will settle for that or not. i hope not.
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Tue Sep-06-05 10:02 AM
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2. gee, what an original post n/t |
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Tue Sep-06-05 10:02 AM
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4. First, if you are seeing these polls, please link to them in your post. |
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Second, don't let them get away with it.
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Tue Sep-06-05 10:10 AM
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11. The poll I saw was on CNN |
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Tue Sep-06-05 10:13 AM
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14. 501 respondents does NOT an accurate poll make... |
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+/- 4%???
Yawn, nice try.:eyes:
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Tue Sep-06-05 10:03 AM
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5. wasnt there a staged event for bush, back drop....food and water |
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that was collected and taken away after the picture was taken
mommy and daddy coming out to defend their boy. this si the fuckin president, and he has mommy and daddy and that bad man, clinton.
fuck......
people arent stupid
aint gonna fly
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Tue Sep-06-05 10:07 AM
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10. I hate to say this... |
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but people ARE stupid. how do explain him being the CIC in the first place. People are still defending him and saying that they would vote for him again...He can do no wrong in their eyes...Not everyone is stupid, but certainly enough to get us where we are today.
I weep for the future.
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Tue Sep-06-05 10:11 AM
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12. only if you want to see it that way. it isnt going to happen |
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local is doing. we are seeing once again it is local. not federal. this is out there. yes, rove goes to stage, limbaugh is on it, so many are aboard and more and more repugs cannot defend
i sit in the panhandle of texas. purple map, this area as red as red can be. we are getting the victims here in amarillo. we are immediately working on integration into community in every way. we see we can do it. now they are saying, bush, you are not doing.
repugs are seeing in this area. i am getting ugly and hateful talking bush, an uppity female, and not a single challenge. many agreeing. repugs.....
media goes to manipulating numbers for bush. this we know. why are you buying it i am watching community and seeing them d it, why dont you see
no, i disagree.
now gotta get to work
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Tue Sep-06-05 10:39 AM
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26. I'm in a blue pocket of a red state, West Virginia. |
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I'm going to go out and sample the reaction of the people. I have a feeling that a lot of them are going to be pissed. I expect to find some Bushbots, but I'm prepared for that. I'm going to immediately cease discussin it as soon as it becomes apparent that I'm talking to an ideologically-blinded, heartless worshipper of Bush. But I still think that it'll be interesting to see Rightists as pissed at the idiot-in-chief as I am. How ANYONE could have watched those people suffering for DAYS and still support der Fuhrer is beyond me.
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Tue Sep-06-05 10:33 AM
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25. You are (sadly) exactly right! |
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If people were dumb enough to elect him twice (maybe there was vote-rigging in Fla in 2000, or Ohio in 2004, but it shouldn't have even been close in the first place), they will be perfectly happy to stand by him now. All the screaming from DU'ers, "name" Dems, progressive Media and websites will only serve to strengthen the meme that we're just about politics and don't really care about anything except hating Bush. Which for some of us may not be an altogether unfair assessment, frankly.
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Tue Sep-06-05 10:04 AM
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6. Evacuations should be nationalized, because you might have to take |
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people across state lines. And it should be part of any disaster preparedness program.
What if there's a dirty bomb in Chicago, for example? Leaving the evacuation to the MAYOR is a ridiculous idea -- it needs to be a widely coordinated effort.
You know if Cuba can do it, we can.
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Tue Sep-06-05 10:06 AM
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I think if we have to get moveon.org or some other group to get some air time on TV and show what the people went through. It must not be forgotten. It shall never be forgotton...
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Absolutely EVERY newscast I have seen has nailed Bush for a slow response. The only blasting of the Mayor has come from Right wing radio. Also, every poll I have seen says just the opposite.
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Tue Sep-06-05 10:12 AM
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13. Too many people out there realize what really happened ... no way |
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Tue Sep-06-05 10:16 AM
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15. There is no way he will get away with this. This many deaths on |
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US soil will not be tolerated by their survivors, the Congressional Black caucus, the blogesphere and many (newly awakened) in the press.
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Tue Sep-06-05 10:17 AM
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16. If Bush Himself Placed Explosives In the Levee's .... |
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he would still get away with it. They would probably thank him for a new swimming pool in NO.
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Tue Sep-06-05 10:18 AM
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We have yet to really see the true extent of this disaster. We have yet to have scenes on TV of mass graves being dug or - more likely given the ground water problem - the funeral pyres going day and night to dispose of the bodies before they become a health hazard - we have yet to see this group of clowns try and figure out where to shelter, feed, clothe, and care for over a million people who have nowhere to go now (this includes all those folks who were able to get into hotels and such). We have yet to see the Baghdad like cluster fuck that rebuilding all this is going to be (with * and the VP's cronies more concerned with stealing government money than doing rebuilding) we have yet to hear from the survivors who were left to die by *. All these things are coming. The impact of Andrew on Bush the Elder took time.
we're all in shock a bit - we need time to comprehend what the hell just happened.
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Tue Sep-06-05 10:19 AM
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he is NOT going to get away with it. think it. make it happen.
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Tue Sep-06-05 10:20 AM
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19. I felt that way at one point, I no longer do. |
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Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 10:21 AM by Walt Starr
Oprah is on right now talking about how they are taking those who are about to die straight to the morgue to die.
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Tue Sep-06-05 10:22 AM
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That just took by breath away.
We need to make sure it's not just Bush but the whole neo-con philsophy of how society ought to be in their minds that is what is wrong here.
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Tue Sep-06-05 10:20 AM
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20. .. cough, cough - Who's in charge? |
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Edited on Tue Sep-06-05 10:23 AM by 0007
CNN Poll
Do you agree with former President Clinton that government "failed" the people in the aftermath of Katrina? Yes 78% 177171 votes
No 22% 51217 votes
Total:
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Tue Sep-06-05 10:22 AM
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21. I hope against hope that he doesn't get away with it.... |
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But the cynic in me says
"Just wait and see."
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Tue Sep-06-05 10:24 AM
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The polls that AREN'T inflated show a different story.
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Tue Sep-06-05 10:28 AM
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Doesn't matter what Oprah or anybody else says about it. Bushco controls everything of any importance. MSM is just looking for whatever will generate the most viewers, not the truth. SCOTUS fight is on, so all the Katrina stuff is for PBS to cover now.
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