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Fri Oct-03-03 06:36 PM
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I just got back from helping my neighbor ID her dead 21 year old son |
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in the military morgue. He was in the army. He was in Iraq in the 507th Maintenance Division...the ones who were captured early in Iraq. He shot himself in the chest with a rifle. He came home from Iraq early and I thought he would be safe if he could keep from going back. They are assuming it was post traumatic damage that caused this gentle, kind, extremely intelligent young man to off himself. I had known him since he was a little boy.
A hearty thank you to the Bush Crime Family.
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Fri Oct-03-03 06:38 PM
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OMG. How awful. How bloody awful. All our love to you and your friend. She's going to need it.
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Fri Oct-03-03 06:38 PM
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My heart goes out to you all.
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Your neighbor must be devastated. :(
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How tragic. My heart goes out to you and your friend.
Please, please, please get these sons of bitches out of power.
I pray your friend finds some peace and comfort in the love of friends and family. How in God's name do you recover from something like this?
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Fri Oct-03-03 06:40 PM
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What a terrible tragedy. My thoughts and prayers to you and your friend.
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Fri Oct-03-03 06:41 PM
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8. Condolences to you and your neighbors |
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What a terrible fate, what an terrible waste.
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Fri Oct-03-03 06:42 PM
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11. I hate BFEE hate them |
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this is tragic! Please send them my heartfelt condolences.
OMG this makes me sad!
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Fri Oct-03-03 06:43 PM
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12. This is hitting home for many of us |
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Fri Oct-03-03 07:16 PM
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34. Right it is...this is tough to take |
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Fri Oct-03-03 06:43 PM
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That is so sad! Please let your friend know I send my condolences. Damn!I detest Bush!
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Fri Oct-03-03 06:44 PM
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14. Wow, what a sad story..... |
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Goddam it, this situation just didn't need to happen....
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Fri Oct-03-03 06:44 PM
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I am so very sorry. What a tragedy. Thanks indeed George W. Bush - How do you sleep at night?
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Fri Oct-03-03 06:45 PM
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16. I can't imagine having to do that. |
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I'm also infuriated that you had to do it. And that the mother had to as well.
This invasion was wrong on so many levels that it almost seems pointless to single one out...
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Fri Oct-03-03 06:46 PM
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17. I'm so sorry! Your story really hits home! I can't imagine anything |
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worse. My heart goes out to you, your neighbor and her family and friends.
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Fri Oct-03-03 06:46 PM
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How can Bush live with himself? heck the deaths and maimings don't phase him in the least. He hasn't even gone to one funeral.
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Fri Oct-03-03 06:49 PM
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23. Would he be welcomed? |
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Fri Oct-03-03 06:47 PM
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or your friends.
All I can offer is my thoughts and prayers that peace will come quickly to the family after this tragedy.
Little do those chickenhawk bastards realize what they are doing when they start this kind of stuff. The scars go deep and the pain never really fades. Those that avoided service seem all too often to send others in their stead. This is truly sad.
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Fri Oct-03-03 06:47 PM
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20. another needless death. |
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peace be with you and your neighbors. soon we will be free of this darkness............
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there is no way this can be allowed to go on
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I'm so sorry for you and your friend, and most of all for her son.
I cannot imagine how I could deal with such a heartbreak. A parent's love for a child has no comparison.
Bush and his gang of thugs should have to experience the same conditions as our soldiers and then let these war criminals decide if their own ives are worth this invasion.
The callousness of Bush makes this loss unspeakable.
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Fri Oct-03-03 06:50 PM
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My deepest sympathies.
It sickens me to think what this war is going to do to those that are over there. The war doesn't end when they come home.
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Fri Oct-03-03 06:52 PM
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25. Angels be all around your neighbor! |
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And also around her family and her loved ones and you. May the soul of her son be comforted and escorted to Peace Eternal.
May all the true fruits of this war be reaped by George W. Bush, amen.
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Fri Oct-03-03 06:57 PM
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What a terrible thing. my heart goes out to you
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Fri Oct-03-03 07:00 PM
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28. My condolences to your neighbor |
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And to you for having to go through such a heart-wrenching and painful experience. Stories like this really bring home the utter depravity and callousness of the devils that brought that young man into this war. :(
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The suicides continue just the same thogh. Sorry to hear of your friend's {and your own} loss due to a tragedy too common to war.
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Fri Oct-03-03 07:08 PM
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30. my sympathies and check yuor PM |
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Fri Oct-03-03 07:09 PM
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31. Please let your neighbor know that we loved him too.... |
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He was not our child but he was America's son. So many of us have children and family currently serving in the military, and our hearts are breaking with hers. This young man gave his life in service to OUR country, and while we despise those who brought the end of his life in this world, we all honor his memory.
I too lost a young man to war in 1971, and my heart grieves with this family and with you, leesa. This young man's family and friends have special prayers within my heart and spirit today and I am so very, very sorry - please extend all our understanding and sympathy for the loss of her child.
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Fri Oct-03-03 07:14 PM
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32. how incredibly sad, I am so sorry |
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He was my younger son's age. I can't Imagine the E going over there and coming back damaged enough to kill himself.
Please tell your neighbor (if there is ever an appropriate time) that there are people here who care.
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35. So sorry - my heart felt sympathy to the family. |
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My thoughts and healing energies go out to your neighbor.
I can't even imagine this kind of grief.
Please take care, and know that you, your neighbor, and their family are in the thoughts of all DU'ers.
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Fri Oct-03-03 07:21 PM
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38. Sorrow is the harvest of war |
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Tears are the prize that no-one wants to win.
There is nothing more I can say.
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Fri Oct-03-03 07:22 PM
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39. My condolences. Here is yet another tragedy in that vein |
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and with your neighbor.
These are our children, the future of our country - carelessly thrown away by this evil administration.
This makes me so furious...I will redouble my efforts to get this horrible regime out of office in his memory.
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I hope that we can bring his buddies home before there are too many more casualties.
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Fri Oct-03-03 07:26 PM
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42. I can't imagine how painful this must be for his mother. |
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But I strongly believe that those who take their own lives are embraced and healed by the Creator. You sound like a very good friend for her to have right now and I'll pray for you.
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Fri Oct-03-03 07:32 PM
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43. That's a terribly sad story! |
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Fri Oct-03-03 07:33 PM
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44. My deepest sympathies to you and your friend's family. |
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Oh, I am so terribly sorry for you and your friend's family on your irreplaceable loss. May the Great Spirit of Love grant you all strength and bring you all peace.
Reading your words brought back many sad memories. One of my friends in high school joined the US Army days after graduation 28 years ago. He wanted to be a police officer and was getting advanced training as an MP. For some reason, he decided he didn't like the Army, went AWOL and came home. He, too, shot himself in the heart with a hunting rifle. Like your friend's son, he too was a wonderful human being. God, I miss Ian.
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Fri Oct-03-03 07:33 PM
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45. My condolences to your friend and her family |
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how many have offed themselves over there. they do not include them in the death count. because if they released that info, i bet the suport would be nil.
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Fri Oct-03-03 07:35 PM
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47. May God bless and keep you and this child's family. |
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I am so very sorry for your loss.
Bush Crime Family is right, every one of those deaths . . .
He is with God, in peace at last.
(((leesa)))
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Words escape me at a time like this. Please know that I'm thinking about you and the young soldier's family.
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Fri Oct-03-03 07:41 PM
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49. What can I say that hasn't been said? |
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May "they" rot in hell, while he soars on eagles' wings. My love and sympathy.
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50. My deepest condolences to you and your neighbor |
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child is every parent's fear and the age of the child matters not. This is a terrible thing for your friend and for you. You are a true friend to help her with this. May God be with you both.
This is a combat-related death, resulting from injury to the man's soul as real as any physical injury.
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Fri Oct-03-03 07:58 PM
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58. Amen to that. Bush WILL Pay! |
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God help that woman. Please people...no more bickering about what candidate...Bush has to go, and fast. ABB. Impeach, march, scream.
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Fuck Bush and his stupid war!
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Fri Oct-03-03 07:55 PM
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54. This is so beyond awful. Can we send condolences to the family? |
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I know it isn't much but I would like to send a card expressing my support for them in their awful sorrow. Sometimes knowing people are praying for your family would help, even if it is someone they don't know.
I would hate for them to think that their boy wasn't loved by a lot of people.
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55. I am so sorry for you and yours |
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I have a terrible feeling that the true cost of this mess will only be known years from now.
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57. I'm so sorry leesa.... |
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My thoughts are with you and the boys family.
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Fri Oct-03-03 08:01 PM
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59. I am so very sorry, leesa |
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for you, for your neighbor and for our brave soldiers who have been placed in harm's way for no good reason. I was talking to my friend this afternoon. She was telling me that a friend of her family saw his 23-year-old son leave for Iraq just today. Damn this illegal war.;(
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60. very sorry to hear. hang in there... |
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my sincerest condolences for both you and your neighbor.
Somehow, just saying I'm sorry for you and them doesn't seem to be enough. I wish there was more I could do.
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Fri Oct-03-03 08:23 PM
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You sound like a real neighbor and a needed friend, thanks. My heart goes out to the family.
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Fri Oct-03-03 08:30 PM
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....he begged for hours on the floor of the Senate that America's "lambs" not be sent to harm's way. It's an age-old heartbreak -- the mothers' lambs fodder for the desires of the powerful.
How our hearts break with this news. Let us win this presidential election for this young man's sake.
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This is terrible. I cannot imagine what his mother must be feeling.
My deepest sympathies to the family, and to you.
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Fri Oct-03-03 08:26 PM
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64. My condolences to your friend |
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That's my worst nightmare as the mother of three boys (they're little). I hope somehow she can be okay. I'm very sorry. Damn these people who made him do there.
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I'm sorry for your neighbor. It is my hope that time will ease her grief. I'm sorry for you, who must deal with this also. I'm sorry that all of our efforts were not enough to stop the greed & the killing.
I was right this afternoon when I shouted "Murderers" at the people getting out of the cars in the * motorcade in Milwaukee.:grr:
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Murderers, Tyrants, Despots. Thats what they are who would kill our children for their greed.
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brainwashed the young children into believing it's for freedom! They should send THEIR children there to fight for FREEDOM..they'd sing another song fast!!
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that the battle we fight over values and ideologies affects the lives of real people ...
thanks for reminding us ...
what a terrible loss ...
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71. What She Said... Me too. |
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73. My deepest sympathies |
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My thoughts and prayers to your friend and her family and God Bless you for being there for your friend. We all have so many different beliefs, having lost a daughter I kept my sanity by knowing she was embraced by God. May her chosen faith bring her great comfort in this time of need.
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Fri Oct-03-03 08:45 PM
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70. Thank you for the kind replies. I will give these to my friend and to her |
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husband and remaining son some day when I guess that it is appropriate. He wanted to be a soldier and he thought he was doing the right thing. I listened today as she struggled through the reams of paperwork and questions about burial preparations and I often heard the comment about the soldiers doing this for our freedom. But this is a lie. Freedom has absolutely nothing to do with what is going on in Iraq or Afghanistan or probably any war since the Revolutionary war. I am so sick of the American Lie. Thank you again for the support.
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world we have created and that he saw first hand, down and dirty, no holds barred! There are no words, yet my soul cries out at this needless pain...this needless loss.
May he find his answers, his peace, his healing on the other side where he will see the TRUTH and may that TRUTH and healing cascade down to encircle his family and those who mourn his loss, resulting in the same healing and love here as is found in that place he now calls home.
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Fri Oct-03-03 09:06 PM
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75. OMG! That is one of the saddest stories I have ever heard. |
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I remember those young guys and that one girl who were captured.
I am tellin' you these thugs should be tried as war criminals because that's what they are.
I am sorry for your pain, but am very angry right now.
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at where this country is and where we're headed...this may put me over the edge!
what the fuck is wrong with this country that these bastards who call themselves the administration put these kids in harms way for their fucking Halliburton money making power grabbing egos. The hell these soldiers must be going through to rather be dead than go back!!!!!!!
God Damn every one of them for causing life long pain or death for decent people who have nothing to do with their schemes.
I am so sorry you and your friend had to do that and I hope this poor kid is at peace now though Mom may never feel that again.
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Fri Oct-03-03 09:26 PM
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77. Just one tragedy like this is too many |
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After living through the Vietnam War era, when members of my generation were coming home in boxes, I hoped that we would have learned about the waste and futility of war. But no. It is the privileged --not the principled--draft dodgers of the post WWII generation who are sending today's young people into an unjust and unjustified war.
May there be a special private circle of hell for all who waged this war, and may your friend's son and all the promising young people killed in or as a result of this war find the peace they deserve. May the broken-hearted friends and families know that we support them in these terrible times.
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Fri Oct-03-03 09:34 PM
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78. Heartbreaking. My deepest sympathies to you and your neighbor. |
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May her son rest in peace.
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79. Oh, man - I am so sorry. I'm crying as I write this. |
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There's nothing words can say.
But there's a lot in our hearts, and deep down in our guts, about this. We WILL find a way - SOME way - to stop this. However long it takes. We will not stop fighting these awful bush pirates. We will not stop until they are gone. However long it takes. We will not stop. We will do it in memory of your friend and her son. AND all the other sons and daughters who've given their lives, or had their lives stolen from them, and those who live on, the walking wounded.
DAMN. Gee, thanks george.
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80. My deepest sympathy to you and your friend ;( |
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Thank you for being that mother's support. I feel weak against the strength you've exhibited. There just are no adequate words to say when such goodness is taken so early in the journey. The unspeakable chaos of this world is weighing heavily on us all this day. Gather, children, we shall overcome it!
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82. Leesa , I am so sorry |
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for you and your friend. It is too much to bear. My heart is breaking for you both, tonight. Big hugs and warm thoughts and prayers to you both from northern NH.
How dare they destroy our children, in the name of greed?
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I'm so very sorry for yours and your friend's loss. How awful.
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Fri Oct-03-03 10:06 PM
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My thoughts and prayers are with you both tonight.
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Fri Oct-03-03 10:09 PM
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when a story like this reminds us that these are individual men -- boys, really -- not "troops".
My condolences to your friend, it is heartbreaking.
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Fri Oct-03-03 10:10 PM
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Edited on Fri Oct-03-03 10:28 PM by rocknation
He came home from Iraq early and I thought he would be safe if he could keep from going back. They are assuming it was post traumatic damage...
Is it possible that he did it because he believed that he WOULD be going back? I mean, look at all the news stories that have been cropping up about extended deployments, calling up more reservists, and troops stretched too thin. Maybe that pushed him into a panic. And he evidently didn't feel free to talk about what he was feeling--maybe that would have made a difference.
My deepest condolances. And if there are any Californians reading this, you'd better get your asses out and vote against the GOP on Tuesday, convince at least one person to do the same, and tell THEM to convince at least one person to do the same. The vast liberal-wing conspiracy starts now.
:( rocknation
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Fri Oct-03-03 10:14 PM
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87. My late husband also died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound |
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Five years ago. In 1970, he lost both legs (one above the knee, one below the knee) in Chu Li Viet Nam. And he always said he was one of the lucky ones as his wounds were physical and obvious, but there were other Viet Nam veterans who were even more wounded, but their wounds didn't show. I don't know what to think of that now. I am heartbroken for your friend, for you Leesa,for all of us who have lost another AMerican lamb. There are several groups (Survivors of Suicide, 1,000 Deaths) who can be an option for you and your friends when the time comes. I found them helpful. I pray for love to comfort your friend...and you
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Sat Oct-04-03 08:05 PM
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104. I am so sorry for your terrible loss, duhneece! |
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I cannot even imagine what you must have gone through. I have lost friends to suicide, but to lose a husband has to be a million times worse. My heart goes out to you and I also wish you a warm welcome to DU!:toast:
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Fri Oct-03-03 10:15 PM
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88. Sorry to hear this... |
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Many condolences and hugs to you and the family during this terrible time.
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Fri Oct-03-03 10:18 PM
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For the grief this young man's family and friends are experiencing, and for his loss.
:cry:
And ((((hugs)))) for those left.
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Fri Oct-03-03 10:20 PM
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Condolences to all whose lives have been touched by this tragedy.
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Fri Oct-03-03 10:22 PM
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91. leesa, had he been able to talk about his experience in Iraq? |
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I won't pretend I can even imagine the shock and horror of such an experience, especially to such a young man.
This is heartbreaking....I'm so sorry. (((hug)))
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Fri Oct-03-03 10:24 PM
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what a terrible thing to have to do. I hope your neighbor has enough help to get her through this.
Mark Twain said that war is the greatest obscenity of all.
And he was right.
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Fri Oct-03-03 11:14 PM
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94. may God's peace be with your friend, her family, and you. |
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You're a good and kind person. Bless you.
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Fri Oct-03-03 11:15 PM
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95. Good people of DU, this is why we fight! |
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My deepest sympathy to the family. This is the type of thing that frustrates me to the point of tears. They just use these people up for their flag waving show and forget all about them. This is just why we are Democrats and this is why we fight whether you're for Dean, Clark, Kerry, Edwards and on and on.
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Sat Oct-04-03 02:19 AM
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96. Please add my totally inadequate tears and sympathy |
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to your friend (and to you as well). Will his story be told?
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Sat Oct-04-03 03:11 AM
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to lose a child under these circumstances. My tears are falling and I'd rather it was me.
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Sat Oct-04-03 03:12 AM
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98. I dont know what to add...this is incredibly sad news. |
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This is a tragedy. Another unnecessary tragedy.
I am so sad and sorry to hear this news, and I wish for the family they find hope and healing through loved ones and friends.
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Sat Oct-04-03 03:35 AM
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99. There are no words... |
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so please accept my sincere silence. :(
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Sat Oct-04-03 08:02 AM
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Please tell your friend that her grief is shared by every mother in the world. There is no pain, no loss, as complete as loosing a child. It has been said that God did not intend for a child to die before his parents. My love and prayers to this family and to you. From the mother of a son.
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Sat Oct-04-03 08:10 AM
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101. The Bush family and friends have no idea what you're talking about |
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Sat Oct-04-03 08:41 AM
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102. I am terribly sorry to hear of your loss |
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please accept my condolences and convey them to the family as well.
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Sat Oct-04-03 09:33 AM
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103. We must act with great purpose |
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to get these folks out of power and to expose their criminal behavior. This tale is too horrifying for us to wait for more of the same. I am torn between anger and grief.
Get the truth out!! Write letters, send e-mails, post signs, talk to folks! Anything you can think of, do it!
This madness must end!
Stories like this make me fear for my children and everyone else's. I am deeply moved by this as a mother and a human being.
My inadequate condolences to you and this young man's family.
Julie
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