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brainshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:32 AM
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I just heard a rumor that Colin Powell is going to give a speech tonight.
Powell is planning to condemn the Bush Administration.

A friend just told this to me on the phone, but I don't know if this is real or not. Anybody hear of this?
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:32 AM
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1. It would be a great first step, but I'm not going to count on it. n/t
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:32 AM
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2. WOW!
Haven't heard that. Time to do a little searching.
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dave123williams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:34 AM
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3. How long will it take them to gear up and smear him...

...not that he doesn't deserve it. That UN speech was laughable.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:34 AM
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4. Wonder if he made some "deals."
Talked to Fitz, maybe? Naw, that's a childish thought.
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im10ashus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:34 AM
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5. He did condemn the response though.
BC-Katrina-Powell,0338
NEW YORK — Former Secretary of State Colin Powell criticized the response to Hurricane Katrina, saying "a lot of failures'' occurred at all levels of government.

Powell, the highest ranking black official in President Bush's first term, also said he does not believe race was a factor in the slow delivery of relief to the hurricane victims.

"I think there have been a lot of failures at a lot of levels — local, state and federal. There was more than enough warning over time about the dangers to New Orleans. Not enough was done,'' Powell told ABC News' Barbara Walters in an interview to be aired tonight.

"I don't think advantage was taken of the time that was available to us, and I just don't know why,'' said Powell, who recently visited storm survivors at Reunion Arena in Dallas.

cont'd...

http://www.startribune.com/stories/587/5605460.html

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yy4me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:34 AM
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6. Perhaps this is his chance to redeem himself,
I hope it is true. Keep us posted, anyone who may hear! We need all the help we can get, even is it is from someone who may have finally seen the light.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:34 AM
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7. I think BabaWawa interviewed him; he'll be on 20/20. nt
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:35 AM
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8. There's a Barbara Walters INTERVIEW of Powell on TV tonight.
On ABC, probably 7:00 or 8:00 CDT -- you can no doubt find out more on the internets.

sw
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JugDack Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:35 AM
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9. Hate to get hopes up
But that could really turn the tide against Bushco. Powell is pretty popular with the average Joe Sixpacks out there.

Or maybe he's just going to announce that he's still not running for President....
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dubyaD40web Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:18 PM
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38. ROTFLMFAO!!
"Or maybe he's just going to announce that he's still not running for President...."

THANKS FOR THE LAUGH JugDack!!!
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:35 AM
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10. "Condemn?!" Oh, please.. nothin short of his listing of every crime he
witnessed these people committing will even come close to washing the blood off that man.

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glarius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:41 AM
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12. As I remember it, he was instrumental in the cover-up of the massacre in
Mi Lai (sp?) Viet Nam....I remember reading a lot about him in this forum with regards to how he managed to wiggle out of that one....He strikes me as a grade A opportunist!
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:54 AM
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15. Yep.. I had heard that about him too
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:57 AM
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28. Yep
After I learned about that I just don't trust the guy anymore. *sigh* He could've easily gone and condemned everything in the beginning since he knew they were lying but he didn't. He took the opportunity. If he is going to be doing such a thing it's only because the "war" is unpopular with people now and he doesn't want to get in trouble. He is probably going to find a way to wiggle out of being held accountable. He, along with every other person in the Bush administration, should be held accountable for their war crimes against humanity.
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The Witch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:36 AM
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11. He criticized Shrubco in an interview to air tonight
http://story.news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050909/ap_on_re_us/katrina_powell

NEW YORK - Former Secretary of State Colin Powell criticized the response to Hurricane Katrina, saying "a lot of failures" occurred at all levels of government.

Powell, the highest ranking black official in President Bush's first term, also said he does not believe race was a factor in the slow delivery of relief to the hurricane victims.

"I think there have been a lot of failures at a lot of levels — local, state and federal. There was more than enough warning over time about the dangers to New Orleans. Not enough was done," Powell told ABC News' Barbara Walters in an interview to be aired Friday night.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:59 AM
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29. I call that saving his ass
He's not really critizing Bush directly.
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moobu2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:44 AM
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13. Powell is not going to “condemn” the Bush administration
Bush is being heavily criticized for letting race effect the initial response to hurricane Katrina and guess who shows up, uncle Tom. Powell will offer a mild critique of FEMA but he will lay the blame on Louisiana state and local officials, I guarantee you that. Just wait and see.

Powell has as much blood on his hands as any of the rest of those lying bastards.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:02 AM
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18. I gotta say I agree. That's why "class" and race need to be addressed by
those who wish to hold Bush accountable.
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:45 AM
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14. Powell is trying to photoshop himself out of the picture.
Fuck him. He is just as guilty as the rest of the felons and he should be doing the same hard time they need to do.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:56 AM
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16. I'd like to see that, but Powell has "0" credibility in my home
He blew it in his sales pitch to the UN before the war of choice.
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cmf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 10:56 AM
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17. Hahahaha, yeah right.
I'll believe it when I see it.
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The Night Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:05 AM
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19. Don't hold your breath waiting for Powell to do the right thing.
Powell has had seemingly countless opportunities to do the right thing and he failed every time.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:07 AM
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21. Yep.
I gave up on him doing the right thing long ago.

Remember how he shook that empty vial at the UN and said we'd soon all be dead of Saddam's chemical, gas, germ weapons? Not to mention the fake WMDs. There's a special place in hell for Mr. Powell.


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spooky123 Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:06 AM
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20. Powell on 20/20
I know that he is going to be on 20/20 tonight giving an interview with Barbara Walters and admit that he was dupped with wmd speach to UN.
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moobu2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:42 AM
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22. He chose to give that speech knowing it wasn’t true. He wasn’t “duped”

He might claim he was but he wasn’t. He cant get out of it by saying “I feel bad about it”. He’s got to completely confess and tell on his fellow conspirators to even start the redemption process. Otherwise it’s just political PR…I bet he’s even consulting with Karl Rove on this. That's just how I feel about it. Unfortunately it'll probly work for him.
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SheWhoMustBeObeyed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:49 AM
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24. Agreed, and I don't care how bad he feels about it.
What he has to repent for - what he needs to feel bad about - goes all the way back to 1968, to a village of slaughtered, unarmed Vietnamese civilians, and his role in the cover-up of their massacre.

But I don't think he consulted Rove. I think Colin didn't get his invite to join the Carlyle Group, so he's trying to rehabilitate himself for future work, perhaps the inspirational speaker circuit.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:04 PM
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31. More then likely
He's probably trying to wiggle his way out. And if/when we can hold trials he's hoping he would not be apart of that and go to jail. Tough shit Powell. You were apart of it and could've stopped it but did shit.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:03 PM
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30. So true
There's a reason why Bush chose him. I think it's the whole Mai Lai experience. I remember hearing an interview a while back on Bernie Ward's program on the guy who wrote the book "Losing Iraq" and according to this guy before all the war stuff started happening and the public nonsense Powell wrote a 1,000 page document about all that could happen in Iraq. According to this guy everything that is happening now Powell told about and they completley ignored him. :shrug:
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Warren Stupidity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:08 PM
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36. exactly.
He's got blood on his hands. In fact the reports were that he threw an initial version of his speech on the floor calling it total bullshit and demanding a rewrite.

He also seems to claim that he knew that there was no connection to 9-11 or al qaeda - when he gave his speech and when at the same time the administration he was a major figure in was claiming at every opportunity that there was a connection. So Powell convicts himself of conspiracy to take this nation to war on fraudulent grounds right there: he knew his co-conspirators were lying and he continued to participate in the deception. Powell to the Hague along with the rest of the Cabal.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:48 PM
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34. Hi spooky123!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Field Of Dreams Donating Member (570 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:48 AM
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23. Probably something about aluminum tubes n/t
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:51 AM
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25. He has irrefutable proof that Saddam ordered the hurricane...developing..
n/t
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:52 AM
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26. Interesting
I still say he is accountable for his lies. He knew he was lying and he helped kill thousands of innocents!
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 11:54 AM
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27. He's on 20/20 tonight with Bawbwa Wawa.
they showed snippets where he said "NO ONE could have anticipated how badly things would go wrong in Iraq."
Yeah, Colon, except for EVERYONE here on DU.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:07 PM
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32. Uh what the hell?
Flipflop! This guy was on Bernie Ward's show a good while back and he talked to a guy who wrote the book "Losing Iraq". According to this guy Powell wrote a 1,000 page document on everything that could happen and according to this guy everything that is happening now Powell predicted it! Powell is lying shit!
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kansasblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 12:27 PM
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33. he's got the military way...

I mean that's great if you are in the military and I have great respect for the chain of command. But he had a civilian job! With a duty to serve the country, not just be a yes man for the admin which he didn't agree with.

Maybe he wants to make thing right and not die a man with zero credibility.

let's see.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 01:53 PM
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35. Oh yeah? Is he going to condemn his asshole son Michael?
Who cares what he has to say - the lying prick!
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-09-05 02:10 PM
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37. Did he get a pang of conscience? Or is he trying to
Edited on Fri Sep-09-05 02:10 PM by Cleita
polish his tarnished image? Somehow I'm not believing the zebra is changing his stripes that quickly.
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