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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:48 PM
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Drudge: pres pee note photoshopped
but link to story goes nowhere...does it work for anyone else?
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:49 PM
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1. I thought this came from cspan???
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:50 PM
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3. got link...
says nothing about "Photo Shop" inside... what a crock of crap headline.
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TwilightZone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:49 PM
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2. There have been several posts about it. Here's one:
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:50 PM
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4. Reuters says the photo is real. The photo editor said he was responsible
for publishing the photo!
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htuttle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:50 PM
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5. They used photoshop to brighten the image so it was legible
There was a story about the photo on Reuters -- it's in LBN somewhere.

A thread here on DU said that when CNN covered it, they also showed Bush getting up and going to the bathroom (and Condi taking his chair) shortly after the time the note had been written.

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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:51 PM
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6. Its technically true
Reuters says the photos were photoshopped to clean up some overexsposure in the documents behind the note. It is particularly noticable near his hand where the text bleeds out.
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BlackVelvetElvis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:51 PM
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7. It was photoshopped in order to bring out the writing.
Which is okay per photojournalist ethics.
A photojournalist may improve the contrast, density, etc. but not put something that isn't there.
The original shot was overexposed and rendered the writing unreadible.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:52 PM
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8. Yes. Photoshop was used to clarify, crop.
Edited on Thu Sep-15-05 05:52 PM by aquart
Nonetheless, it is the note George wrote. The note is truthful Drudge is, minimally so.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:53 PM
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9. Drudge is an idiot
Having said that, here's a link to the Reuters story regarding the pic.

It's real, it was enhanced but not changed.

http://www.pdnonline.com/pdn/newswire/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001137642
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:55 PM
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10. Not Photoshopped as Drudge would like people to think.
From the link:

http://www.pdnonline.com/pdn/newswire/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001137642

According to Hershorn, Wilking was one of several photographers covering the United Nations Security Council meeting between about 11 and noon yesterday. He was part of a pool stationed on a balcony that faced Bush's back; a group of White House photographers was on a balcony facing the president.

Wilking shot about 200 images and sent two memory cards to the press room at the U.N., where Hershorn was working. Hershorn looked at the images on a computer and initially decided not to send any of them.

But a few hours later, he started to wonder about a note that Bush was seen writing in three of the pictures. Out of curiosity, he zoomed in to see if he could read it.

Once he saw what it said, Hershorn decided the note was interesting and worth publishing. The white parts of the picture were overexposed, so a Reuters processor used Photoshop to burn down the note. This is a standard practice for news photos, Hershorn says, and the picture was not manipulated in any other way.
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MnFats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:55 PM
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11. www.snopes.com still lists it as 'undetermined.'
Edited on Thu Sep-15-05 05:58 PM by MnFats

but only because bush may be RESPONDING to a note from someone else. Yeah, fat chance.
they do declare the image to be authentic


http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/bushnote.asp
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politick Donating Member (885 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 05:57 PM
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12. Man is that misleading
In the olden days, before digital or even color photography, people in labs actually had to chemically produce prints, often compensating for over- or under-exposure by manipulating how much light hits certain parts of the exposure. Now we do it on a computer. And if you want something unclear to become more clear, this is what you do.

Nearly all digital photos are enhanced in one way or another, and the photoshopping that took place here -- at least according to Reuters -- was to make the note more clear; not, as is implied by the headline, to fake or superimpose the note itself. I suppose that, strictly speaking, Drudge's headline is accurate, but what he's getting it is not.
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matt819 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-15-05 07:27 PM
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13. In some ways it doesn't really matter
If it's real, then it's just fun to have fun mocking this madman.

And whether real or not, it's a hoot to see the RW go nuts over this. As if going potty is somehow a liberal thing that neocons just don't do.

Talk about getting your knickers in a twist (so to speak).
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