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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 02:29 PM
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If, and I say IF, Roberts is gay
Is there anyway he could be convinced to come out after he is sworn in?

It would destroy BLP's* base.

And I'd love to watch the Right Wing Homophobic heads explode. :popcorn: Hell, I'd even go PPV for that! :evilgrin:

*Bush League President (Copyright, pat pending, Halliburton, Inc.)
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 02:32 PM
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1. His wife might not like that too much. n/t
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 02:34 PM
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5. I have no idea about Roberts, but there are millions of wives of gay men.
I personally know about a dozen (they all have kids too.)
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 02:37 PM
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9. Oh, sure
I know a couple in the same position. But I'm saying his wife might not like it too much if he comes out... in public.... as Chief Justice of the U.S.

Kind of blows the whole privacy thing for a couple, I'd guess.
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ToolTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 02:47 PM
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16. My wife didn't like it one bit.
But my kids didn't mind.
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TallahasseeGrannie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 02:51 PM
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21. Well, I have a lot of gay men friends
but I'd freak if my husband turned out to be gay, if for no other reason than I'd feel damned stupid not to have figured it out!

I wouldn't have a problem being married to a gay man in a platonic way if I were single... there is more to marriage than sex.

I am always fascinated with how the wives of transgendered men handle the transformation, as it appears some stay in the relationship

Sometimes gender confuses me.
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 02:33 PM
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2. Yes.
Edited on Sat Sep-17-05 02:34 PM by Harvey Korman
Someone needs to go...um...undercover. Maybe a well qualified 3L who's looking to clerk soon...
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 02:33 PM
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3. What makes you suspect that he is gay?
Did I miss something?

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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 02:34 PM
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6. See this
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 02:38 PM
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11. mmmmmm, juicy!
Still, WTF? I arrange flowers for the store as a hobby, and I'm only a little gay...

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ToolTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:17 PM
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38. Mongo, the only way I know to tell if someone is gay
is to look down, and if he is sucking your c**k then it's pretty certain he's gay. However, if you're looking up, then he may well be completely str8. :D
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ToolTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 02:41 PM
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13. "What makes you suspect he is gay?" My Gaydar!
n/t
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 02:33 PM
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4. To be honest, I hope he doesn't come out, IF he's gay
Edited on Sat Sep-17-05 02:35 PM by rateyes
until after * makes his nomination for Sandra Day O'Connor's seat. If he comes out before the the RW Repigs in this country will NEVER allow another "unknown, perhaps moderate" nominee to take a seat. But, IF he is, I hope he comes out of the closet.

On edit: The thought of seeing RW heads explode is a good one.

:popcorn:
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mongo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 02:35 PM
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7. The most that I can hope for is that he comes out
as a moderate....
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Daphne08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 02:35 PM
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8. Even IF he is, I'd say that's a personal matter.
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 02:38 PM
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10. All those questions about his favorite movie when
the Dem's should have been going through Guckert's private phone book.
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Lancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:57 PM
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43. Roberts's favorite movies
At least he didn't say Ben-Hur or Spartacus. And if the committtee had gotten into favorite directors, and the first name that popped out of his mouth was John Waters…

The horror! The horror! But we'd have our answer.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 02:39 PM
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12. Why bother? Let him alone.
IF he is, hopefully that will make him a bit more of an empathetic judge. And I don't think it'd do one whit to Bush's popularity -- after all, they didn't know when they appointed him, did they?
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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 02:45 PM
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15. You realize, of course
that the position of Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court is THE head of one of the three co-equal branches of Federal Government, on a par with President and Speaker of the House?

I agree that if he is, that it will make him a bit more of an empathetic judge.

As to "they didn't know"....well what can I say....didn't they vett him? And if they didn't know, isn't that a bit like not knowing Mike Brown had more experience with horses than disasters?

Goes back to incompetence, not of Roberts, but to Bush and his cronies. And that the Base WILL not like to see exposed.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 02:54 PM
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26. Well, it would be fun.
I'm just not gonna bet on it happening. :P
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:11 PM
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35. Every action, every spoken word exposes
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 02:50 PM
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19. As empathetic as J. Edgar Hoover?
Edited on Sat Sep-17-05 02:52 PM by Zen Democrat
Or as empathetic as all the undercover gay Republican officeholders who make careers out of sponsoring legislation to deny rights to gays and lesbians?

Why is it everytime an undercover gay Republican is outed it turns out to be someone actively practicing homophobia?
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 02:52 PM
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23. Yeah, I realize there's two ways that could go.
The self-hating closet case thing = not good.
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 02:43 PM
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14. Why does it seem like I'm seeing the start of...
a Rove style "whisper campaign" here at D.U.? I'm ALL for playing hardball politics and taking the fight to repukes but why are we resorting to it here? Why aren't those who "represent" us standing up and opposing this nomination head on?

Just wondering.

P.S. and if this is a deliberate whisper campaign why here? D.U. is not the best place start it. Most of us would welcome a gay S.C. justice (unless he were of the Hoover variety). I think someone may be giving the freepers a little too much credit when it comes to spreading dis-info... (half of them can't even SPELL homophobic...)
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 02:48 PM
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17. Nah, it's all OVER the net, DU is actually pretty late on this one.
Now, if you're going to blame anyone, blame the New York Times, from what I've gathered they were the ones to run the "three guys and a pie" picture originally.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 02:50 PM
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20. Roberts and a pie?
Linkage.

:blush:
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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 02:53 PM
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25. See post #6
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 02:56 PM
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27. Roger that.
:rofl:
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leeroysphitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 02:59 PM
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30. Thank you. I did not know that.
You have exposed me for a fool...
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:01 PM
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32. Nah, just somone
who hasn't read the entire "three guys and a pie" thread. :P

Backstory:
http://underneaththeirrobes.blogs.com/main/2005/08/more_grist_for_.html
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ToolTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:06 PM
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33. Not pie. Looks like Quiche to me.
n/t :grouphug:
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:07 PM
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34. "Three guys and a quiche!"
EVEN BETTER! :rofl:
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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 02:49 PM
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18. No dis-info, notice the post heading...IF
In fact, I hope that if he is gay it will make him a better, more compassionate jurist.

What this is about is the REACTION by the RW if he did come out, nothing more.
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daninthemoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 02:51 PM
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22. Could be. It does make him alot more acceptable to most dems.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 02:57 PM
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28. It would not surprise me one bit if he is gay

Since I have several friends that are gay, that would be fine with me for him to be on the Court.

If so, I hope he will have more compassion fro others.

Isn't Souter gay or did I just read that someplace crazy?
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ToolTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:01 PM
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31. Could be Rove inspired. But a closet case would frighten me.
Experience has taught me that gay bashers are always trying to kill-the-queer-within. The craziest closeted fags I've ever known were always Catholic. In my earlier slutty life, I'd always hide the knives if I learned the nights trick was catholic.

So a closeted, (but disturbed), judge could do a lot of harm. He would probably be OK though, unless he was trying to prove his hetero-ness with his decisions.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:13 PM
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36. You're seeing it because gaybashing by the "left" is tolerated by DU
and it's tolerated because, well you'd just have to ask them about it.
Watch this vanish.
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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:15 PM
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37. Excuse me, but
just where is the "gaybashing" in this post?
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Balbus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:59 PM
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44. Hit the nail on the head! eom
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 02:52 PM
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24. Gimme a break.
Mehlman is gay. And who's that Repig poobah who married his partner in the Northeast? This "Roy Cohn Gay" subset must be distinguished as an abberation in the gay community. These guys are fucking looney. They conflate power and being "above" the rules while relentless pursuing anyone engaging in their same behaviours. This subset was also manifest in the Third Reich. We need a DSM on it.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 02:58 PM
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29. he has been groomed from the day he was born
to become someone that the puppetmasters can use and they could care less if he screwed ducks as long as he did their bidding.
thru the years i`ve meant a few people like him and they fucking frightened me because they have no humanity. they have no understanding of what it is like to be human because that was bred out of them the day they were born..they are taught that those below them will drain them of their purity.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:19 PM
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39. Didn't Michael Huffington come out during or after an election?
Does anyone (except Arianna) remember? Can I ask how his coming out AFTER as opposed to BEFORE would cause the Homophobic heads of which you speak to explode -- more? better? Are you thinking THEY would deep-six him isf they found out he was gay BEFORE the vote?

You think they would derail part of their own agenda to control the SCOTUS for the next 50 years over his sexual preference? Hmmmm...

I have to think about that. Personally, I think they want to firmly control every arm of the government so badly, they would spin or hide it if they found out.

TC
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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:27 PM
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40. Good questions
I prefer to think that they don't know.

On another post someone ask for bets on confirmation votes. Most gave 60-70 or more for. I said 51-49 because of the wild fire this is out on the net now.

Would they sink him? Good question, while they do want control, the conflict would be do they want it so bad?

Hard to tell, I guess we have to see how it plays out.

But if he does "come out" after the vote, all I'm saying is that we will have a spectacle of GOP'ers once again eating their young

And that is always fun to watch.

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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:33 PM
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41. After
It was definitely after he lost the election.
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meisje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-17-05 03:38 PM
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42. Step away from the Kool Aid!!!
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