I'm telling you now, this movie is gonna change the world

[Melodybe]

You just don't know it yet.

George Clooney's Good Night , And Good Luck is going to win a bunch of Oscars and it is going to make America and the world just a little bit better.

Scoff at me if you will, I don't care cause I know.

Watch the trailer and see for yourself:

http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/goodnightandgoodluck.html

[gauguin57]

1. If it gets David Strathairn an Oscar nomination, I'll be happy.

I think he's such a fabulous (and overlooked) actor. ALWAYS good.

[Melodybe]

2. I also am a big fan of David Strathairn, he always does an outstanding

job.

Look for he and Clooney to get Oscars, Strathairn for best actor and Cloony best director, not bad for his second movie.

[TomClash]

29. Nope, he acted in too many John Sayles movies

Politically incorrect.

[Melodybe]

31. So what? why would that matter, he's brilliant

Just watch, he will be one of the front runners in this year's best actor catagory.

[TomClash]

36. I'm kidding

John Sayles is a bit outspoken by Hollywood standards.

[NashVegas]

39. This Trailer Looks More Political Than Anything I've Seen from Sayles

Which means you're probably right.

[bear425]

96. Thanks for posting this! We cannot defend freedom abroad

by deserting it at home. Goodnight and good luck.

Reminds me of KO's signoff.

[dave123williams]

151. I saw him on stage in NYC with Macellan and Hellen Mirren. Brilliant.

He's a hell of a good actor, and is way past due for recognition.

[elehhhhna]

114. ooh baby i love d stra'n

[Autumn Colors]

9. Ditto re David Strathairn

I can't tell you how happy I am to finally see him in a leading actor role in what will be a BIG film.

An Oscar nomination or award would be icing on the cake!

[aquart]

18. Additional adoration of Strathairn here.

[BrklynLiberal]

131. Another Strathairn fan here. This movie does look fantastic!

I cannot remember which movie it was ..He played the slightly slow suitor of one of thae female leads.... I always try to see every movie that he is in.

[Skittles]

55. I have been a fan of his since The Days and Nights of Molly Dodd

yes INDEED

[CrispyQ]

88. I'll always remember him as Whistler!

He's a great actor!

[gardenista]

128. Absolutely! This looks like the perfect role for him.

Bravo!

[texpatriot2004]

3. I can't wait to see it. Oct 7th right? I have been hearing journalists

use that phrase lately.

[Melodybe]

5. It opens on Oct. 7th, and it is going to make history

I love it!

[Rainscents]

4. I can't wait!!!

[nonconformist]

6. I'm really looking forward to this movie too! nt

[Child_Of_Isis]

7. Is it the movie or the message

that you feel will change the world? I am not really into movies but if you feel that strongly about it, I will go.

[Melodybe]

8. Both, just watch the trailer and look up some stuff on McCarthy

and Murrow.

The enitre national news media was in love with McCarthy's fascist propaganda back in the 50's, the parallels to our current media are the reason that Clooney wrote, directed, and starred in this movie.

His father said that the movie is meant to send a cold chill through every news room in the country.

[ClintonTyree]

17. Hey, Annthrax Coulter says McCarthy was an American hero.....

I guess that's all I need to say about that.

[niallmac]

107. She is one strange person but most of all a phony.

She is, I am convinced, playing a part, a role and there is no intellectual substance to it.

[BrklynLiberal]

132. Doesn't that make what she does even worse?

[eleonora]

10. Too bad it's a limited release :(

I hope it's successful enough to open nationwide. Grrr....sucks.:banghead:

[Melodybe]

12. Why would it be a limited release? It is made by Warner Brothers.

[eleonora]

46. The Yahoo page says it's limited release....n/t

[Autumn Colors]

75. So was Fahrenheit 9/11 ... at first

Go see it, then get everyone you know to go see it. If the box office starts showing them that it's a money-maker, you can bet on them releasing it to larger and larger numbers of theaters.

Word of mouth can turn a small indie pic into a blockbuster ....

Think:

"My Big Fat Greek Wedding"

[Cooley Hurd]

11. Here's a page with posters and stills from GN&GL:

http://www.clooneystudio.com/goodnightandgoodluck2.html



I agree, Melodybe - this movie will hopefully jump-start dialogue about the present corporate media's complacency and complicity with our out-of-control federal government.

[fooj]

13. IMO, this is perfect timing! "We will not walk in fear."

Let's hope this inspires some authentic journalism.

Peace.

[Melodybe]

14. It just looks beautiful, I am so proud of George.

[fooj]

134. Yep! This should ruffle a few feathers...

Peace.

[chknltl]

15. Not a movie goer much any more but this one...

... I will stand in line for on opening day. Thank you for the heads up Melodybe

[roguevalley]

16. I grew up with this man. He was awesome. I feel for you youngins

that never saw Industry On Parade and the White Papers and his interviews. Amazing. Salon had a write up on this. It is going
to kick ass. Mark my words.

[aquart]

19. I never even heard of it.

[Melodybe]

22. You have now

[malaise]

20. Can't wait for the DVD

Should be a wake up call and since the tide has turned, it should be one more nail in their coffins.

[Judi Lynn]

21. The timing is superb.Look for right-wing radio beasts to kick up the hate.

They'll be screeching about this, and I hope it will arouse a ton of interest within their barely conscious listeners.

[Melodybe]

23. Clooney is beloved, it would really be suicide for them to go on an

all out Clooney Hatefest.

Clooney is too well liked and powerful in the Movie Industry, he has friends.

But hey, suicide would mean that we wouldn't have to hear their ignorant bigotry any more, so cheers.

[Melodybe]

24. Did I mention that he is brilliant and hot as hell.

[AtomicKitten]

25. If we don't learn from history, we are doomed to repeat it ...

in a nation terrorized by its own government. This movie could be a real kick to the nuts when America needs it most. Can't wait.

[Melodybe]

26. I'm telling you, this movie is going to be huge.

[BootinUp]

27. I really hope it does well

The more people that watch it, the better of course. This is actually the first I have heard of it, I don't watch much commercial tv.

[Melodybe]

28. Get the word out and it will.

It is our duty that America learns this little history lesson.

[chat_noir]

30. Slant Magazine review

The film's bedrock is Strathairn's performance, a masterpiece of calibrated dignity and self-doubt so potent that the absence of glimpses into the iconic journalist's private life becomes unimportant. Clooney's film, confined to a small series of indoor locales (the CBS studio sets, a bar, a convention hall), has a claustrophobia that heightens the story's climate of repressive fear and intimidation, and the tight shots of Strathairn's rigid, somewhat-lined visage, his eyes trembling with both conviction and fear, similarly seem to be squeezing the man to the breaking point. Moving little within Clooney's frame and allowing his piercing glance to occasionally falter in moments of introspective repose, Strathairn plays Murrow as not simply a person but as a force, a presence, of righteous indignation in a world of comforting lies and half-truths. And thus when the hustle and bustle of the newsroom is juxtaposed with a measured pull-back shot of Murrow working at a typewriter in an empty room, his face and hands moving with the efficient rata-tat-tat of a man focused on the work at hand, both director and actor get at the essence of the character's calm, quiet assurance and clarity amidst the era's political hysteria.

The dichotomy between Murrow and McCarthy is emblematic of Good Night, and Good Luck's fixation on contrast, which manifests itself not only in See it Now's ethical condemnation of the House of Un-American Activities Committee's insidious leader, but also in the film's view of an American culture naively willing to take everything at face value. In an exquisite sequence that highlights the disparity between what's seen and what is, Clooney presents an authentic commercial for Kent cigarettes in which the patronizing spokesman compliments the audience's intelligence for not being easily swayed by consumer marketing, and then asks them to buy—hook line and sinker—the company's (thoroughly preposterous) claim about Kent smokes' healthiness. Immediately after this found-artifact advertisement, Murrow's hilarious interview with Liberace finds the queer pianoman discussing his hopes and dreams for marriage (and his interest in Princess Margaret!), a similar instance of deliberate image-manipulation in which messy, unfavorable realities are glossed up with phony facades in an effort to coddle and hoodwink a public still under the false impression that politicians, presidents, and TV personalities are always operating on the level.

Though never overstepping the story's period-specific confines, the film's contemporary allusions are nonetheless there for those who would seek them: McCarthy's uncompromising view of good and evil (and slandering of anyone who opposed his cause, including the ACLU) is meant to recall George W.'s post-9/11 "You're either with us or against us" declaration and the payback-motivated leaking of Valerie Plame's covert CIA status; his dogged refusal to supply evidence against accused communists, instead preferring to try suspects on speculation and hearsay, is intended to evoke the current brouhaha surrounding prisoner rights at Guantanamo; and his justification that "security risks" necessitate the bending of constitutional freedoms is expected to parallel similar rationalizations for the Patriot Act. "We cannot defend freedom abroad if we desert it at home," Murrow states during his historic nightly news attack on McCarthy's slash-and-burn approach to weeding out potential socialist sympathizers, a famous proclamation that—along with Murrow's similar belief that "We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty"—is meant to reverberate as a censure of the current administration's preferred tactics in selling and orchestrating the War on Terror.

Yet more forceful than its digs at the Bushies is Good Night, and Good Luck's eloquent articulation of television news's duty to challenge the powers-that-be, and the erosion of modern broadcasting's adherence to this responsibility in the face of profit-prompted corporate interference and exaltation of infotainment fluff—the latter of which is Murrow's focus during a 1958 honorary ceremony speech that serves as the narrative's frame. As Murrow's employer William Paley, a superbly conflicted Frank Langella elicits both empathy and condemnation, exhibiting loyalty to the news division's demand for independence while simultaneously becoming increasingly concerned for his network's financial health should Murrow alienate one too many lucrative sponsors. In the film's magnificent finale, Paley and Murrow stare each other down over the lengths to which the media are (and should be) truly autonomous truth-seekers, and the brilliance of Clooney's (and co-screenwriter Grant Heslov's) explosively tense presentation of this face-off is that, though the film's sympathies staunchly lie with Murrow, Paley comes across not solely as a money-hungry scoundrel, but as a resolute pragmatist who believes that facts, even in the hands of an esteemed anchorman, are always subject to biased interpretation and manipulation.

http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/film_review.asp?ID=1798

[Melodybe]

32. Wow, I told ya'll this is going to be huge.

That review is mind blowingly good.

This movie is going to make history on a large scale.

[Melodybe]

35. BTW Welcome to DU

Thank you so much for posting that amazing review.

:toast:

[PATRICK]

37. That balance comment at the end

of the Slant article deals with dilemma not functional pragmatism. Refusing to look squarely at the inadequacy of having large corporate ownership of the news or other alternatives such as total state control seems to find the mediocre compromise as the Ideal. Such hs been one of the myths of truth in America. When one delves into complexity there is no cure, but only more delusion and self-satisfaction or a fixed dystopia
that is OK so long as it pays and nothing TOO bad happens. Well, something too bad has happened and it reflects a lot of other too bad things including the ultimate degradation of a corrupt news world tainted by other upper power realities from its pennies to its thoughts.

Independent, multi view point outlets and deep investigative journalism would be a purer mirror and a step toward dealing with the other pragmatist worldly problems of th married concentration of lies and exploitive power- also degrading faster the environment(we hope).

The difference today is that the angst of the impure soul doing his job in a tough world is replaced by the angst of getting caught out as total fraud. A much greater portion of our country and any nation our corporate media is invading would have been utterly blinded and lost if not for the Internet. When today's pathetic midgets of failed journalism hit rock bottom the job of truth to power and informed citizenship will be here. By comparison, those smugly going about the priesthood of propaganda are a class of world criminals. The token pundit and lone voice does not redeem the system- and they are far outshouted and outnumbered even though truth will have its victory one way or the other.

[Catrina]

133. What an excellent post

This is so true, and so well said.

A much greater portion of our country and any nation our corporate media is invading would have been utterly blinded and lost if not for the Internet. When today's pathetic midgets of failed journalism hit rock bottom the job of truth to power and informed citizenship will be here. By comparison, those smugly going about the priesthood of propaganda are a class of world criminals...

As far as I know, Hitler's propagandists were held responsible for the part they played in the horrors he inflicted on millions of innocent people. That may not happen to today's crop of Goebel wannabes, but I think history will not treat them any more kindly.

I had not heard of this movie, but having read the reviews above, I have to agree with the OP to some extent. It appears to have the potential to stimulate the thinking processes of those who have been asleep, or, perhaps, did not have access to the Internet. I can't wait to see it.

[NMDemDist2]

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[patricia92243]

33. WOW ! We used to have a real media. Sigh, wish we still did. America

would be quite different.

[Melodybe]

34. Did you see Koppel's interview with Hugo Chavez?

there are still a few out there that have trumped it up lately.

It only took 6 to bring down McCarthy, the rest of the American media were in love with his facism and hatred of the ACLU and our civil rights.

[patricia92243]

38. I don't have a tv anymore - for the very reason that the media makes me

sick - after the Gore/Bush fiasco. Do you know if there is a vidio of the interview? I'd watch it if there is.

[Melodybe]

40. here is a copy of the transcript, you can find the video there

http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/International/story?id=1134098&page=1

[Melodybe]

41. kick

[patricia92243]

43. Thanks. I read every word of it. Sounds like Bush is at it again - demon

demonize Chavarz and then invade his country on that pretext. The real reason is the oil, of course. Iraq all over again.

I wonder if CHina might intervene, since Ven. is supplying oil to them and they would not like to see the US hog all of it.

[Judi Lynn]

44. Thanks for the Nightline transcript, and a ->HUGH!!!11!!1!!

for the best movie news I may have EVER heard! WooooHOOOOOO. :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

It's just about time Americans got to confront what really happened in the 1950's at the hands of foolish, hate-driven, alchohol-fueled loser MEpublicans.

[JNelson6563]

42. how many posts you doing on this movie?

:shrug:

[Melodybe]

50. At least on a day until it opens

This movie is too important right now

[NYCGirl]

45. Interview on SALON with Clooney about the film:

http://www.salon.com/ent/feature/2005/09/16/george_clooney/index.html

[Cha]

108. That was Excellent! Thank

you, NYCGirl, who appreciates Dean!

[HeeBGBz]

47. It does look damn good

Tense trailer

[hootinholler]

48. Is the entire movie in B&W or jsut the trailer?

I love B&W it's so grey scale! Very powerful format.

-Hoot

[NYCGirl]

49. The movie is B&W. As it should be, IMO. NT

[Melodybe]

51. kick watch the trailer and you'll understand

[Enraged_Ape]

52. Thanks for that!! Clooney's great and Ed Murrow is my hero!!!

I had no idea about this film!!! I loved Clooney's "Confessions of a Dangerous Mind". He has a deep, genuine love for old TV, and he's one of the good guys!

Ed Murrow is one of my all-time heroes. (If you want a great read about the origins of TV, read "The Murrow Boys".) Strathairn appears to have nailed him!!

This is going to be a great movie!

(Sorry about all the exclamation points. This film looks like it is going to rock in just about every way.)

[Melodybe]

53. I know that is why I have been such a spaz about it

It is going to be a huge deal.

[in_cog_ni_to]

54. THAT is going to be an INCREDIBLE movie! Why a "limited" release

I wonder? A George Clooney movie is being released to limited theaters? Politics? Remember what we went through with F911? Do we need to do the same for this movie?:grr:

From Yahoo:
Drama

October 7th, 2005
Limited

Starring:
David Strathairn, George Clooney, Robert Downey Jr., Patricia Clarkson, Jeff Daniels, Tate Donovan, Frank Langella, Ray Wise, Robert John Burke

[Melodybe]

56. We might, I am calling a few local theatres to ask that they get the movie

I suggest everyone else do the same.

It take just takes a few minutes and you don't even have to talk about politics, just ask will them be getting it, and if they say no ask that they reconsider.

[MelissaB]

57. From Amazon

Opening Date:
September 23, 2005 (limited release)
October 14, 2005 (national release)

I had to know, too. :)


Edited to add: This needs 2 more recommendation. This movie may help change things.

[Melodybe]

58. ok good to hear

thanks melissa

[Faygo Kid]

62. I'm going to see this one - finally, a movie worth seeing

I hope to enjoy it as much as "Quiz Show," and that it will be even more important. Might even shame a journalist or two into actually exposing the madness of this administration.

[in_cog_ni_to]

64. Yay! Thank you!

whew...what a relief. Time to go mark my calender!

on edit...recommended too! :hi:

[Enraged_Ape]

60. It should have more than a limited release

Maybe that's just for a couple of weeks. (I hope.) I looked it up on www.imdb.com and see that it's already won several awards at film festivals in Europe.

There was also a nice bit of trivia at that site: Apparently when Clooney screened this for test audiences, several viewers thought that the actor playing Joe McCarthy was somewhat "over the top". They didn't know it was actual footage of that clown!

[Melodybe]

63. I know I read that too

It was their only complaint about the movie

[in_cog_ni_to]

65. LOL!

several viewers thought that the actor playing Joe McCarthy was somewhat "over the top". They didn't know it was actual footage of that clown! :rofl: Funny!

[ldf]

87. a limited release

is a calculated effort to get "buzz" about a movie.

if it is good, the buzz will fuel the interest.

it will expand to more and more theaters.

[elehhhhna]

117. some mighty decent actors in there...it'll be a goodie

[elehhhhna]

118. some mighty decent actors in there...it'll be a goodie

[spuddonna]

59. Wow, now THAT's a trailer...

"We'll pay you to go after Joe Kennedy..." JMJ

Any links to interviews with the stars? I saw one from salon...

Thank you so much for the link. I hadn't heard anything about this. I hope Jon Stewart gets Clooney and the rest of the cast on soon to PR it!

[Melodybe]

61. me too, I would love to see Clooney on the Daily Show

[IndyOp]

71. Clooney on the Daily Show - Yes!

With Susan Sarandon & Tim Robbins & Gore Vidal !!

Woo-hoo! :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

And Melodybe -- I am 1000% behind you posting at least once a day in regards to this movie -- this is the first I have heard of it.

Wow! What incredible timing -- the press show a hint of backbone in regards to the Gulf Coast tradegies -- and now Clooney clocks 'em upside the head with THIS.

I believe that TRUTH-TELLING IS OUR HOPE.

:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:

Finally, a GEORGE that I could support for PRESIDENT! ...and, oh my god yes - he is hot, hot, hot. :blush:

[Melodybe]

79. You can help, I am a busy girl and I don't always get a chance to post

[NYCGirl]

147. He's on this week. Thursday, I think. NT

[belle]

66. AWESOME. Can't wait.

Great cast, too. I love Patricia Clarkson.

[proud2BlibKansan]

67. It looksgreat but I doubt it will change many minds

It certainly isn't the first movie about the blacklisting of the early 50s. The Front comes to mind. I'm sure there have been others.

Joseph McCarthy is a hero to the Ann Coulter crowd. They will merely argue the details of the movie and then claim it is a pack of lies, just as they did to F/911.

And if a movie had the potential to change the world, F/911 did. But I sure don't see any significant changes, do you?

[Melodybe]

72. Well, the movie was intended to send shiver through every news room

in the country, here's hoping that a few reporters see the movie and see the light.

It's so much more desirable to be a hero, than a villain.

[proud2BlibKansan]

80. Yes that's true

My point was that this is not the first movie about the blacklisting in the 50s.

[libodem]

73. you're right

she loves him and defends him in her books...I'm glad the world gets to see her kind of hero...and what a hater of freedom and civil rights and America she really is!!!!!

[Peace Patriot]

115. I would guess that you think Bush won. So, I want to ask you this:

Given that two Bushite corporations, Diebold and ES&S--run by major Bush donors, Bush-Cheney campaign chair, and far rightwing billionaires--tabulated 80% of the nation's votes using secret, proprietary programming code, with one third of the nation lacking any "paper trail" whatsoever, and the rest with extremely inadequate recount and audit procedures, how do you know that Bush won?

Aside from the result derived by Diebold's and ES&S's secret formulae, there really isn't any other evidence that Bush won, and much evidence that he did not.

You say that F/911, for all its potential to change the world, did not result in any significant change. I'm not sure that is true. It might have resulted in more visible and palpable change if it had targeted Diebold and ES&S, along with Bush and the Cartel. But I think it did create--or, rather, it paralleled and reinforced--an underground change that had been in motion since late 2002, I think--death of Paul Wellstone and buildup to the invasion of Iraq--and is cresting now. I think F9/11 fortified people--me included--for what happened next...

after...

--the Bush regime had run roughshod over the will of the people on the Iraq invasion... (58% of the American people opposed the Iraq war BEFORE the invasion. Feb. '03. Across the board in all polls. That number dipped only once, in the few weeks of the invasion with U.S. troops at max risk, then went right back up to nearly 60%, where it stayed throughout the campaign. (It's over 70% today.)

and after...

--the Bush regime had run roughshod over the majority of Americans on many progressive issues, such as the national, international, and military (UCMJ) ban against torture... (63% of the American people oppose torture UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES--May '04).

...the Bush regime then utilized the capability that had been set up for a fraudulent election--secret, proprietary programming code, with zero or minimal auditing controls, gained by means of lavish lobbying and other bribery of election officials of both parties--to override the desire of the majority of American voters to throw the thieving, lying, lawbreaking, murderous Bush Cartel out on its heels.

I thought of F9/11, when that happened; of Prince Bandar and what money can buy (it can buy Democratic election officials, who would sell out our right to vote for a week of fun, sun and high end shopping at the Beverly Hilton, sponsored by Diebold, ES&S and Sequoia*); I thought of the military recruiting cannon fodder among poor blacks, and of their dastardly deeds against black and other Democratic voters in Ohio; I thought of a lot of things in F9/11, and compared them to what I thought the Bush Cartel might be capable of, if they had SECRET, PROPRIETARY control of the vote count...

...and it helped me to comprehend what they had done, and to seek out information on how they had done it. And it gave me hope that the American public would, one day soon, find out.

Even though Michael Moore disappointed me on the matter of election fraud--I did expect him to do a photo op, after the election, throwing these election theft machines into Boston Harbor--I've no doubt, now, that that photo op will come--whether Moore does it, or someone else, BECAUSE of Michael Moore. Because he showed that the truth CAN be told, and that people WANT the truth.

"Significant" change? I don't know. But hope is a pretty significant thing. Intangible. But important. Very important.

The significant change that F9/11 facilitated is ABOUT TO happen. That's what I'm trying to say. It's been like a hot lava flow, steaming underground, building up momentum. I think it's finally about to break into the open. I think we are about to experience the Second American Revolution.

Call me a dreamer. "But I'm not the only one." Michael Moore helped us to imagine what it would be like to hear someone speaking the truth, and to be among people seeing/hearing the truth for the first time--and cheering and weeping just to able to see and hear something that is not a lie.

[proud2BlibKansan]

122. It doesn't really matter whether they won or not,

does it? They are in office now.

But, FYI, no, I don't believe he won. I think Diebold won.

I do hope and pray we are on the verge of a revolution. I was hoping that was what we would accomplish last year when F/911 hit the theaters. I never dreamed a year later we would still be in Iraq and this horrid president would still be in office.

As for the OP, there have been many movies and books about the blacklisting of the 50s. It is inconceivable to me how anyone can hail McCarthy as a hero. He ruined people's lives with his paranoia. Yet he has his fans. So I doubt very seriously one movie is going to do much to change thinking.

[GreenPoet64]

68. Thanks for the heads up! I'll stand in line for this one! n/t

[HysteryDiagnosis]

69. You got your sixth nomination..... this is a movie I will go out to see.

[MADem]

70. I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY

How interesting that Keith Olbermann has taken to signing off with Murrow's 'good night and good luck.'

Clooney, and to some extent, Robert Downey Jr., will get them in the seats, the plot line will keep them there, and talking about it afterwards.

[Melodybe]

74. Get the word out, this movie should be and will be huge

I can't wait to see Clooney on all the late night shows, talking about why he made it.

It is going to rule!

[proud patriot]

76. Most helpful to remind Americans of this part of our History

I sent the trailer out to friends to watch

[Melodybe]

77. Thanks, we are getting a huge group friends together to catch this movie

and dinner, I suggest everyone do the same, it should be a great time.

[MelissaB]

82. ditto

I'd like to see this spread like wildfire.

[Melodybe]

89. Just tell everyone about it and it will

we have a whole month to hype it before it comes out.

That's plenty of time.

78. there is a bunch of good movies coming out in the fall

I saw a sampling on charles osgood show this morning. Wow, Hollywood is using some of the "real" actors and doing some interesting movies, quite a shocker to me. They usually come out with a crop of violent over the top movies or "feel good" schlock movies.

[sakabatou]

81. That I would see

A million times

[Tace]

83. Wow -- That Looks Like A Great Flick

I'm on the edge of my seat waiting for it.

[speedoo]

84. Great subject, great cast.

Can't wait to see it. I hope it gets tons of PR, and lights a fire under some journalists that have been betraying their profession and their country.

[Donailin]

85. Can't wait. I only wish it was

longer than 90 minutes

[kittykitty]

86. CBS "Sunday Moring" listed it as one of the great films

coming out this Fall. Also the Johnny Cash film (name?). They said it will be a great year for films after the disaster of last year.

[sunnystarr]

90. Well shoot ... now that I'm all hot for this movie I may have to

wait to buy a dvd.

10/07/2005 - NY/LA
10/14/2005 - CHI/BOS/DC/SF
10/21/2005 - Limited

It's not like Nashville is some major center. It will probably be 6 months to a year before I get to see it. Bummer!

[shifting_sands]

91. Edward R. Murrow

Stratharin has done a great job with Murrow's voice, he sounds just like him, it's eerie. Joe McCarthy was a new Senator and was dying in the polls in WV when he and his handlers came up with the infamous list he held up at the beginning of these hearings and said he had a list of 205 Communists right here in America, during the time that the "Red Scare" was at it height. I was a kid and even I knew people were terrified. When they started televising the hearings and all those famous people were accused (thanks to Hollywood's B-grade actor at the time Ronald Reagan) lives were wantonly destroyed, with little or no evidence. People didn't miss the Murrow broadcasts, glued to their TV sets while Murrow fought the disgusting display of McCarthy. Even Eisenhower was afraid of him, it was a horrible time. I can hardly wait for the movie to see with the eyes of an adult what I watched as a child.

[Melodybe]

92. Wow, great post, were you scared then or were you too young?

[shifting_sands]

100. shifting_sands

I was scared then because my father was worried and nothing ever scared him. My liberal father and Conservative aunt had an argument one Christmas about this, she called one of the men in this little town we lived in a communist and my father went off about calling someone that name, "didn't she know what she was saying and the damage she could cause, etc." Nonetheless, it was openly questioned whether there were people in this little town who might be communists. I do know my father thought McCarthy to be a horrible man, and we would have repeated lectures on how untrustworthy politicians were and how corrupt. The lectures were interesting because he had a photographic memory and could tell you every piece of history leading up to the reason things happened like they happened in the government. I sure miss his mind today.

[Melodybe]

105. Well, i hope that you like the movie, you should be proud of your

father for being smart enough to question McCarthy when the whole country was being brainwashed.

Good for you.

[Enraged_Ape]

98. Ed Murrow had gonads cast out of high-tempered steel

Murrow had been at the front lines in World War II, broadcasting all of the action on the radio as it happened. When TV came around, he and several other radio journalists--including Eric Sevareid and Howard K. Smith--saw the new medium as the perfect way to deliver the
WHOLE news. People could finally SEE what was happening as opposed to just listening to an account of it by some announcer. Murrow and his news producer Fred Friendly (played in the movie by Clooney), really looked at TV as a fresh new way to deliver the whole truth about what was going on in the world.

It is just so sad how far TV "news" has fallen from those days. I think that one of the reasons that, of all the broadcast networks, CBS still at least appears to TRY to report things as they are is because they have a portrait of Edward R. Murrow hanging at their corporate headquarters. I can't imagine looking at that coldly earnest face and wanting to spend your day shilling for global corporations.

[redacted]

99. I am almost positive McCarthy was from WI, not WV.

He ran against Robert La Follete.

I grew up in WI and we discussed Mc Carthyism to death in high school gov't.

If I remember right he was born in Appleton and went to Marquette U. Served as a judge, as well.

And hey, high school was a long time ago -- so 3 cheers for the WI public school system. I know thjis info came from there, I dropped modern history in college -- too many disussion sections.

[shifting_sands]

101. Wisconsin

You are right it was Wisconsin, his "Camp McCarthy" where it was decided for him to put names down (any names) on his first shocking list, was in West Virginia. Sorry to have mixed those up.

[redacted]

113. Other WI claims to fame and Tommy Thompson/corruption.

1. the Republican party, born in Ripon WI
2. Tommy Thompson -- became governor when I was a student at NU. Tommy was a college drinking buddy at Yale with the father of a HS friend. Tommy put her dad in charge of labor for the state (no experience). Friend's dad was a nice guy, but a drunk and after that the entire family fell apart. It was hard to watch.

I was a kid from the other side of the tracks with a full scholarship to Northwestern. It was an eye opening experience to see that wealthy people in positions of power could be such self-serving a**hole drunks. Not so unlike their less educated and poorer counterparts -- I had thought that by working hard and going to the big university I could insulate myself from corruption. I had this idealistic vision of how the educated classes would behave.

It was an eye opener.

Ever notice Tommy Thompson has a permanent red nose?

btw, I live in CA now, but if I ever had to move back to the midwest. Madison or the Twin Cities.

[jillan]

93. Looks like it's just the movie that needs to be made right now.

I wish I could say that maybe it would wake up the media, but we all know that the media is gone in this country. If you dare tell the truth, you can become Dan Rather.

[Orrin_73]

94. This one is going to be a very

powerful movie. Darn I live in Holland and will not be able to see it.

[Cha]

110. You can catch it

on DVD like I usually do with the exception of "Farenheit 9/11" and maybe "Good Night And Good Luck".

[Cha]

95. That was an Emotional

trip! Props to Clooney and the rest of the truth telling gang.

Is what's her name gonna boycott it?

[Melodybe]

97. Who Mann Coulter?

She's just piseed that Clooney would touchy her skanky, fascist ass with a thousand foot poll.

Oh man I hope that they start ragging this movie, it will only make tons more money if they do.

[IndyOp]

106. Props?

This is the second time today I've run into 'props' -- and I would appreciate a definition....

Thank you!

[Cha]

109. Hehe! I had to learn, too..

It means..Proper Respect. You know..Props! :)

[IndyOp]

111. Thanks!

I hate being out of the loop.

:kick:

[troubleinwinter]

102. "We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home."

[Oeditpus Rex]

103. When they start ragging, this is key

Clooney, in the Salon interview:

You know, every scene in that movie we double- and triple-sourced; either it was Joe and Shirley Wershba or it was Halberstam's book or it was Friendly's book or it was "To Strike at a King." We really talked to everybody. We went through the videotape of Milo Radulovich , and Joe and Shirley, because I wanted to make sure that it couldn't be marginalized.

As with F911, the Freeptards can say GN&GL is "slanted" and "biased," but if they deny its authenticity they fool only themselves.

[Melodybe]

104. I know isn't it great

You can't argue with real news footage

[oxbow]

112. I've watched the trailer twice and the last line still makes me shiver

we cannot defend freedom abroad...

hell yea

[SeattleGirl]

116. Bravo! Haven't looked forward to a movie this much since F9/11

This is gonna be so good, I can't WAIT!

[DIKB]

119. WOW

I can't wait to see that movie.

People need to take a SERIOUS look at how closely life today is mirroring the actions then.

[Kire]

120. At this point he gets to act as provocateur

http://www.calendarlive.com/movies/cl-ca-clooney18sep18,0,7284751.story?track=hppromobox

[satya]

121. The trailer gives me chills -- can't wait for the film. Great cast. Thanks

for the post, Melodybe -- I hadn't heard about this one yet and will be watching for it.

[glitch]

123. Cannot wait! Really looking forward to Oct 7th theater release.

Now this is a movie I won't wait for dvd release.
Go George Clooney, Go David Strathairn!

[Eurobabe]

124. FAB!! Thanks for the heads up..

Looks like a great flick. Good to see Robert Downey, Jr. active again, after all of his problems. Strathairn is excellent in whatever movie he is in!

[Melodybe]

125. I knew Downey looks really healthy, I hope that he is happy

It's hard to be that smart in Hollywood, kinda makes you wacky.

David Strathairn is always good, period. He is going to win an Oscar for this, I'm willing to take bets.

[sam sarrha]

126. the movie "The Crucible" is about the McCarthy trials also.. in Metaphor.

[Melodybe]

127. Yeah, I know, I love the Crucible.

I understand why Monroe married him.

[gardenista]

129. Chills...... Thanks for that. Great trailer. Looks like a great movie

I hope it educates some people in this country.

[GoneOffShore]

130. I'm going to see this one!

I don't go to see movies cause I work in the business. I wait for the DVD's. This is one I'm going to see the first week that it comes out.
I'd see it on the opening but I'll be in Montreal at a concert that night.
:kick:

[Contrary1]

135. Robert Downey Jr....one of my favorite actors.

Jeff Daniels too. I'll be there.

[blonndee]

136. Ooh, I can't wait to tell my RW mom and dad to see it...as an historical

film. =)

[Melodybe]

138. Nice, blonndee, they won't know what hit them

if they are old enough to remember McCathry, it should really be effective.

Rock on, tell your friends and family to watch this movie.

[fujiyama]

137. I saw the preview the other night

when I saw "Lord of War" (Another great film that at one point even rips on the 2k selection) and the film looks great.

I was especially intrigued by the use of live clips of McCarthy rather than an actor in his place (unless it was an actor that looked exactly like him).

It's very relevant to the atmosphere we currently living in.

[Melodybe]

139. No it was the real McCarthy

if you look at the IMDB trivia for the movie, the only audience complaint during screening was that the actor playing McCarthy was over the top.

Ha Ha Ha can you imagine their faces when they found out that it was the real McCarthy?

[The Backlash Cometh]

140. My eyes are wet.

I think the Clooney clan have managed to stay true to the spirit of America. I hope they have enough energy in them to spark the rest of the country.

[movie_girl99]

142. looks like a great film

Oscar potential for sure.

[peekaloo]

143. George Clooney will be on The Daily Show this Thursday.

:woohoo:

[lectrobyte]

144. We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home. Truer

words never spoke...

[Misunderestimator]

145. That's a great trailer and a fantastic cast!

Thanks for the heads up.

[lildreamer316]

146. I am SO on it!! can't wait.

George Clooney...who knew??

[blindpig]

148. I'm sorry but I find that hard to believe.

When has popular entertainment ever done such a thing? No matter how good it is it will be a blip on the screen of the mass concience and we'll be back in one minute after this message from our sponsors.

In the 60's so many aspects of culture were going in the right direction that a cumulative effect was felt. Not so today.

I think that humans would be better off without moving pictures and idiot boxes. :hide:

[Seansky]

149. regardless of the awards it might get, some of my friends and I have

agree to go and see it...there will be a good discussion after the movie, I'm sure.

[im10ashus]

150. I hope so.

It looks to be a great film. "Crash" was another great film from this year. I would expect they will both be in contention.

[blm]

152. No scoff...this looks like it's got the Oscar buzz already.

.

[Blue Belle]

153. Salon.com did an excellent interview with George Clooney...

on the making of this movie. He get's in a couple of good digs at Bill O'Reilly and Ann Coulter too. :)

http://www.salon.com/ent/feature/2005/09/16/george_clooney/index.html


{SNIP}Clooney: Oh yeah, Bill O'Reilly did a whole show about why my career was over because of my political stance. He brought some guy on I'd never heard of. But you know, the bottom line of that is, fine. At least it's not the government bringing me in and questioning me. So we've evolved one step further ahead. And there isn't a kind of power that television media -- although it has a lot of power, it isn't concentrated in one specific area, because if you're a conservative person you turn on Fox News, and if you're a liberal you listen to National Public Radio; you find yourself going to the place that plays to what your political and social agenda or beliefs are.

The unfortunate thing with that is that it means that people are starting with completely different facts. You know, if you watch Fox News -- my aunt and uncle are conservative, and if you had a conversation with them before the war, Saddam Hussein was the reason for 9/11, was attached to al-Qaida, all of those kinds of things. So it's just an interesting development in a confusing time in media. It's also about 24-hour news. I actually thought it was interesting to watch these guys this week, from here at least, mad, you know; they seem to really have taken up going at people.

You know where else they did it, in a way, was during the Terri Schiavo thing. That's when I thought we had finally lost our minds. All through the Terri Schiavo thing I thought, Well, this is it, this is ... we've really finally snapped. And then they started doing polls, and you found out that 80 percent of the country, including the Bible Belt, thought the government should stay out of our hospital rooms. And then I went, "Oh, we're still here. Our country's still alive."

[killbotfactory]

154. Confessions of a Dangerous Mind was an awesome movie

This should be, too. Clooney is a hell of a director.

[pitohui]

156. yes that was a terrific movie

nonetheless it is not immediately obvious to me what is special abt this new movie

[rman]

155. sure hope so.

looks like a good movie.

[FULL_METAL_HAT]

157. "Punishment Park" worth watching too

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0067633/

Plot Summary for
Punishment Park (1971)

"Punishment Park" is a pseudo-documentary purporting to be a film crews's news coverage of the team of soldiers escorting a group of hippies, draft dodgers, and anti-establishment types across the desert in a type of capture the flag game. The soldiers vow not to interfere with the rebels' progress and merely shepherd them along to their destination. At that point, having obtained their goal, they will be released. The film crew's coverage is meant to insure that the military's intentions are honorable. As the representatives of the 60's counter-culture get nearer to passing this arbitrary test, the soldiers become increasingly hostile, attempting to force the hippies out of their pacifist behavior. A lot of this film appears improvised and in several scene real tempers seem to flare as some of the "acting" got overaggressive. This is a interesting exercise in situational ethics. The cinema-veritie style, hand-held camera, and ambiguous demands of the director - would the actors be able to maintain their roles given the hazing they were taking - pushed some to the brink. The cast's emotions are clearly on the surface. Unfortunately this film has gone completely underground and is next to impossible to find. It would offer a captivating document of the distrust that existed between soldiers willfully serving in the military and those persons who opposed the war peacefully.

Summary written by Dick Rockwell {[e-mail]}

Sadly these quotes here make it feel like THIRTY FIVE years have not gone by since they were written!

Memorable Quotes from
Punishment Park (1971)
Defendant Lee Robert Brown: I will tell what happened to people who are poor and uneducated and automated out of a job and who stand in long fucking lines talking to little people like you with delusions of power, and unemployment lines all day long, to be fucked off because your old man didn't ball you right last night or you got a case of crabs.

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Defendant Lee Robert Brown: You don't wanna hear my message. You spent fifty years evolving a propaganda system that'll take the truth and change it into what you wanna hear. You don't wanna hear shit that's gonna mean you might have to give up something. You don't want it. All you wanna do is sit on your fat, dividend-drawing ass and draw dividends.

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Charles Robbins: Would you like for me to define what a politician is? A politician is nothing but a debater. All that you do is debate issues, you fat pig, you meathead. That's all that you are, because you are lying, sucker, you're lying to the camera, you're lying to your mama, you're lying to everybody, but every time I hear you open up your mouth, all I hear is oink, you pig. That's all I hear, oink. 'Cause you ain't got no humanity in you, 'cause you're a pig, you lying punk.