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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:37 PM
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CBS: All but said Arnie's won
THey said Arnold most likely already has a big lead due to the Absentee Ballots & that it would take a tremendous outpouring to help turn the tide.
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:39 PM
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1. Now Iraq
talking about how the turning over control to the Iraqi police has been a huge disaster
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:39 PM
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2. Why Do people send their ballots in so Early?
I wait till the day before or day of, to many things can happen.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 06:05 PM
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11. To avoid long waiting lines
long drive home and the BS that goes with it.
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Howardx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 06:08 PM
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13. i sent mine in early
voted no recall/yes bustamonte
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shance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 06:21 PM
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18. This is SO RIGGED!!!
There is NO way that they can call it this early.

I cannot believe we are experiencing this AGAIN.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 06:32 PM
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21. http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/recall/la-100603recall_lat,1,5706451.
Tuesday's election could see a swell of voters at the polls. Registrations are at a record high for a governor's race with 15.4 million residents eligible to vote, according to Secretary of State Kevin Shelley. Of those, 385,000 have registered since early August.

Additionally, more than 2 million absentee ballots have been cast as of today, about a million fewer than were sent out, according to Shelley's office.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 06:32 PM
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23. Isn't it illegal now to project a winner before polls close?
Or something like that?
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 07:01 PM
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28. Not illegal. Just unethical.
Many news agencies issued a moratorium on this after the 2000 fiasco.
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haymaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 07:15 PM
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32. Less likely to have them disenfranchised by whatever Jeb Bush means
will be emloyed on election day. Was big in Florida in 2000. It's how the Repukes vote, some Dems, mostly Repukes.
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Tripper11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:40 PM
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3. Well that's nice.....
the damn networks aren't even waiting until election day anymore to call the winner.

Might as well move on to 2004 now and declare a winner based on whatever bullshit the rethugs throw at them.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:41 PM
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8. We just may as well
Point is the networks are trying to eitehr discourage
voting, or by doing this encouraging people to go out
to vote.

I do not think it is the latter, but it might result in that.
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diplomats Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:40 PM
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4. If he wins, his problems are only just beginning
Mark my words.
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jiacinto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:40 PM
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5. Well
Around 25% on the list of people I've called already voted.
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Padraig18 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:41 PM
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6. Interesting...
ABC just said it was 'anybody's guess' and 'too close to call'.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:41 PM
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7. And the real hell of it is they are probably right on both counts
A. That Arnold will take it, and

B. That it is not inevitable, if only everyone who is eligible to vote would get off their gilded duffs and do it.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:44 PM
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9. Media's Way of Disenfranchising Voters
In 1982 I Was Standing In Line to Vote when CBS announced Reagan had won, two hours before polls closed in CO. I walked away without voting...

Way to go CBS - you've just discouraged god knows how many from going to the polls tomorrow.
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 05:44 PM
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10. Absentee Ballots are the manual method of Bushevik Vote Fraud

They as much as announced it on the Eve of the Bloodless Coup of 2000.

When I heard some Bushevik-Rovian lower-levekl operative shamelessly come out and say they were "soliciting absentee ballots" it was my first taste of the shamelessness that comes with being Immune from the Rule of Law that is the privilege of almost all Imperial Family Cronies and Capos.

Of course nobody finds it odd that suddenly all absentee ballot lots lean heavily Bushevik Totalitarian.

Move on. Nothing to see here.

Imperial Amerika has the same "voting" systems that the Phillipines had under Marcos.

The same. And I placve a similar level of trust in these "voting" systems that a Filip under Marcos had in their "voting" systems.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 06:07 PM
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12. Interesting, how are they so sure that the absentee ballots are for Arnold
Don't they usually break quite close to the vote % cast at the polls?
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Emillereid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 06:13 PM
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14. I've been doing get out the vote phone calling
and I'm getting a lot of people telling me that they sent their NO votes via absentee ballots.
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 06:15 PM
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15. I actually think this is GOOD news
because it encourages people to get out and vote and tells the Repugs that it's OK....their work is over. Let them get lazy and satisfied.
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frank frankly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 06:15 PM
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16. no way
no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way no way
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 06:18 PM
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17. This message brought to you by
Amerikka's state-controlled TREASONOUS media.
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Taxi Driver Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 06:29 PM
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19. It ain't state controlled.
The corporations CONTROL the White House, not the other way around. The only public channel, PBS/PBT, is OK.

Don't any of those big media corporations fund any democrats? I thought CBS was leftist, and they are talking about what a disaster Iraq is. Maybe this is supposed to encourage turnout. Look, what they said can only discourage Republicans from voting and has a, at worst, neutral effect on Democrats.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 06:43 PM
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25. pbs USED to be ok
it no longer is, imo. more and more of the shows seem like propaganda.
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Taxi Driver Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 06:47 PM
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27. I only recently started watching it, so
which shows are like propaganda? They show BBC World news, which is far from propaganda. Is NewsHour with Jim Lehrer more conservative than it should be?
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 06:30 PM
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20. I heard it as well...they portray it as Davis or Arnold....what about Cruz
I guess this is more of that "liberal media" at work...(sarcasm off)

The voting machines are suspect at best....how we will ever know the truth anyway.
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Frodo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 06:44 PM
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26. We WANT them to portray it as Davis vs. Arnold.
Think about it. All this smut on Arnold really shouldn't make a difference on the recall at all. Are you more or less likely to like Gray Davis based on what you think about Ahnold?

The recall is:

Question #1) Should we recall Davis?
Question #2) Who should replace him?

If this played out the way we should expect Davis would have no shot. Nobody in California (OK 20%) like the man or the job he's doing (don't look at me, it's the polls that say it). But if the race is spun as Davis vs. Republican? Davis wins (How do you think he got re-elected?) since there aren't that many Reps in CA.

Davis desperately needs it to be Davis vs. Arnold to have a chance (and he really doesn't care what happend to Cruz - they pretty much hate each other). Cruz still benefits a little from Arnold's falling numbers, but McClintoch may gain more. I suspect the early polling put it out of reach for him. We'll see.
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kalian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 06:32 PM
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22. Unfortunately....
This election is rigged and there is NOTHING that we can do about it.
The repukes need to have Schwarzenegger in the governor's mansion in
order to cover up the big heist that the Kenny Boy and gang committed during the "energy crisis".
This has been planned a long time ago...and it will be over tomorrow.

On a side note, I think that they're also having a "test run" for the touch screen voting computers... You know, see if they have to "tweak" anything for the 04 presidential elections...
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loudnclear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 06:40 PM
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24. California desrves Arnold...just like the US deserves Bush
eom
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 07:05 PM
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29. I really hope NOT.
Some years back when the corporate forces tried to gain contol of the beachfront in Santa Monica, the referendum was worded in such a way that if you voted NO you were voting for that prospect. I never doubted the ability of my fellow citizens to see through the ruse and it was indeed voted down. I cling to that belief that Californians, fruity and nutty as they are, can collectively see through the dogshit. Whether their votes will be counted is another matter. :sad:
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einsteins stein Donating Member (398 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 07:06 PM
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30. That's pure Bushlit, and you should know it
Bush*lit:
  1. Supported solely by the power of Bush.
  2. That branch of literature or journalism devoted entirely to Bush.
  3. Abreviation for "Bush-Light." Of the same quality--but not the same quantity--as Bush.
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Shanty Oilish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-06-03 07:10 PM
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31. I've seen stranger things, especially in CA....But...
...how anyone can confidently predict what California folks will do, is beyond me.
And CBS has no business predicting elections. :thumbsdown:
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