Stop The Chanting NOW!

[Joanne98]

Maybe someday in the "Far Away" past chanting was cool. But now..............IT LOOKS STUPID!

Joanne98

PS... This message wa brought to you by someone who was SHORT AND TO THE POINT!

[danalytical]

1. Enough Give Peace A Chance sing a longs too

I love John Lennon's music and his ideas, but singing that song at a march just feeds the stereotypical view people have of these people and events. It doesn't connect.

[Poll_Blind]

2. Hey, at least they had the guts to show up at the march.

Just something to think about. I admire your ability to point out that the hard work of others is imperfect- or, ahem, that it "LOOKS STUPID!" but don't you think that you would lend credibility to your criticism if you had actually done a damned thing or been part of the process in hopes of changing it to your liking?

PB

[geomon666]

6. How do you know that he hasn't? n/t

[Poll_Blind]

9. I would believe she probably would have said so, don't you?

You're right though, it may be a dangerous assumption on my part and I will consider the ramifications.

PB

[geomon666]

10. I'm not in a position to know what a person would say at any given time.

And I don't think you are either. You were incredibly insulting to her. For what?

[Poll_Blind]

13. "Maybe someday in the 'Far Away' past chanting was cool."

"Maybe someday in the "Far Away" past chanting was cool. But now..............IT LOOKS STUPID!"

If she or yourself felt insulted, I apologize. However, if a poster is going to directly state that people chanting at a peace rally "LOOKS STUPID!" then, with that sort of blanket insult, they sort of open themselves up to reciprocal criticism, wouldn't you agree?

I'm not terribly concerned with how people express themselves at a peace rally so long as they, through their behavior, support the cause and strengthen it.

Insulting an entire group of people for legitimate and acceptable behavior is not something I cotton to. Perhaps you feel differently on the matter.

If you're still reading, I'll share a brief anecdote which may clarify why I made the post and how I view the poster. I was at an open-mic poetry slam. Many young poets got on stage and recited, for the most part, stirring and relevant poems on a number of different topics. Then a middle aged woman, and I only mention her age because the rest of the poets were so young, rose and took the stage. She read some of the most trite and unimaginative poetry I have ever been witness to. It was a love poem and it contained nearly every cliche I could imagine. However, she was obviously still greatly moved by the feelings which inspired the poem in the first place and though I didn't care for her poem, I felt that she, like all of them, had a legitimate right to be on stage and that, while uninspiring to me, her poem was no less important than the other poets'.

Just because something a person does does not jive with your own opinion, it is no reason to call them stupid. That woman and all the persons who appeared at the peace rally had a right to express themselves in whatever ways, cool and uncool that they desire.

Freedom.

When a person who did not attend or work to produce such an event chooses to take potshots at them for behaving in a way that the poster does not agree with it is distasteful and inappropriate.

PB

[geomon666]

15. But that's her view, her opinion.

If you want to argue with her opinon that's perfectly fine but making assumptions about someone you don't even know is not really the smartest idea. I mean...what if she did contribute all of her time and money to the effort?

[Poll_Blind]

19. You're most correct- but she didn't. You're arguing hyperbole.

And what if her parents were killed by a chanting mob- why, why my post would have been wildly insensitive and her personal attacks on the rally attendees might have been justified, at least in some remote emotional sense.

But that's not reality, is it? Hint: It's not The poster stated that people who chose to chant at the rally looked "STUPID!". I thought that was a mighty judgemental complaint from someone whose interaction with the event, from the information they themselves provided, was limited to posting on a web forum.

"What if she did contribute all of her time and money to the effort?"

Well, that would change things in some technical sense, I guess. She didn't mention that she had, so I assumed not. Neither did she mention that she had to leave her home and view the rally at a local electronics store because she was beaten severely if she did- so I assumed that was not the case either.

However, I will play along with your line of reasoning. Let's say she had- does that give her the right to call unpaid citizens attending an open rally "STUPID!" without fear of verbal reproach?

PB

[geomon666]

20. She said chanting made the attendees look stupid.

Not that they were.

[Kingshakabobo]

26. That's a bit of a stretch. Don't ya think? n/t

[Lecky]

3. lol n/t

[Tower]

4. "What do we want?!" "NO CHANTING!" "When do we want it?!"

"AS SOON AS WE'RE FINISHED!"

[Jeanette in FL]

17. That is really funny.

Thanks for the laugh. I'm still laughing.

[Emit]

5. Where are you watching this!? Can't find anyone covering it n/t

[Iris]

18. Yeah, really. I just saw a bunch of people standing around looking like

they didn't know what to do.

Why have a rally if no one is going to chant? What are people supposed to do? Just stand around with signs.

[Desertrose]

7. well..sometimes the energy just gets everyone going,ya know?

....and if you ain't there maybe ya shouldn't judge.

and is this all about how things LOOK??

or is it about taking some form of action??



Also short & to the point.

[madrchsod]

8. hmmm- what would wtrps?

get the fuck out of iraq? get the fuck out of the whitehouse you piece of dog shit? fuck peace- we are here to kiss ass?
wtrps----what would the rude pundit say---
http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/
The Rude Pundit

ya singing forty plus year old songs just don`t cut it anymore..how about all those people rapping "mosh" or maybe something from rage against the machine? jesus people get relevant...to this 58 year old that shit just doesn`t cut it anymore...the days of wine and roses died at kent state....

[marions ghost]

28. I agree--

It would have been good to have some music or rap acts that would reflect the presence of the younger generation. I wonder why that was not done. The music is out there.

On the other hand, I'm not against crowds chanting at times because it is a good energy raiser and can be effective when heard at a distance--the sound of many speaking with one voice.

Especially when crowds are so controlled and subdued as they are in the US, it seems you have to use some means of stimulation to engage them. And try to include a message that crosses generations. I also liked it when some speakers did not scream, like Ramsey Clark and Jesse Jackson and Maxine Waters--they had a serious urgent tone but didn't overdo it. Much more effective.

[VolcanoJen]

11. Stop the chanting NOW! Stop the chanting NOW! Stop the chanting NOW!

Stop the chanting... oh... ok.

:-)

[Bluebear]

21. heheehehehehe

:toast:

[frictionlessO]

12. Yes Ma'am! Right away Ma'am! Three bags full Ma'am.

C'mon... aren't there other more important things to get mad at war protesters about?

I respect your opinion, but I suspect that your good tastes do not matter one iota to the folks actually there.

Also are you sure you never look stupid?

[WilliamPitt]

14. The slogans, created, will always be repeated

[geomon666]

16. Well you yourself called for a change.

I'm not really sure how that would work it at all.

[Bluebear]

22. Hey hey! Ho ho! All this chanting's got to go!

:toast:

[incapsulated]

23. lol, good one.

What else are you going to do while marching? Armies have been chanting and singing since marches were invented. It's a human thing, can't be helped. Or stopped.

[Bluebear]

24. I am not necessarliy anti-chant...

What we need is a wellspring of something original.

[incapsulated]

25. We need an organization of protest song/chant writers

To update things, that's for sure.

[eridani]

30. Reunite Gondwanaland! n/t

[skooooo]

27. umm...I think chanting has been around since the beginning of time...

...and I doubt it's going anywhere. It's a natural way for large crowds of people to express a thought.

I think you'll have to just look past it if you find it "stupid."

[Mabel Dodge]

29. Chanting not cool huh??

That's the least of our worries.

[Violet_Crumble]

31. Stop the 'stop the chanting NOW' thread!

....IT LOOKS STUPID!

Violet...

[Gnostic]

32. Short and to the point

Though in the process I don't see any point.