FYI - It's "Pro Life" Month + a movie ban - from a fundie news letter

[DanCa]

I just read my sister fundies churches news letter. The nuts got a whole month of protests, legislative issues, and non stop brow beatting planned for october. I just want everyone to be forewarned.
Side note number two they also banned the upcomming movie the chronicles of narniah (sp) and wanted to stop little kids from seeing because it has talking animals in it and that teaches them toteism .

[walldude]

1. Funny about Narnia

I worked at a Christian Conference a few months ago(Got kicked out because of a post on DU.. hehe) and they were all singing high praises for Narnia, apparently C.S. Lewis was an atheist who converted to Christianity. I found it very strange that the Christians would so wholly support Narnia while in the same breath pissing on Harry Potter because of the witchcraft. These people need to make up their minds...

[FreedomAngel82]

20. I don't get it either

The Bible does state not to do witchcraft and whatnot but I don't know why they're for Narinna since it has talking animals. :shrug: It's all confusing. Personally I think people should just make up their own minds. My aunt (one of my dad's sisters) two kids love Harry Potter and they're Christians. When the whole book series was first becoming really popular one of my cousin's had the book and read it the whole time we saw family.

[Az]

39. Moral Authority vs Moral Relativism

The difference between them is that Narnia presents a universe where morality is derived from a fixed source. Harry Potter derives its morality from examining the situation and determining it for one self.

Its the same thing in the case of Lord of the Rings. Plenty of moral authority figures in it. It really isn't about the magic. Its about questioning the notion of morality coming from a fixed source.

[grannylib]

2. Oh for heaven's sake...the Narnia chronicles are one of the most

incredible stories of Christian faith around...it's a TOTAL allegory for Christ (Aslan) and the possibility of redemption through self-sacrifice...sheesh, what a bunch of morans.
It's the classic story of good winning out over evil. But I guess it figures that anyone with the depth of thought and the ability to get deeper than 1/10000000000th of an inch, theologically, like C.S. Lewis, is way above the heads of the simpleton fundies. Thought is the enemy. Just march in lock-step.

[DanCa]

7. Thanks for the proper spelling. I copied it off the news letter.

They also had no problem showing the passion of the christ to the sunday school kids. You know it was that book and the lord of the rings and that got me interested in readding. Whats this world comming too?

[FreedomAngel82]

23. Sunday school kids?!

They saw that movie?! My dad borrowed it from his sister and I saw a few seconds of it when he was being beaten and I couldn't stand it. I almost threw up right there. :puke: And they let little children see that film?? They had no problem with it but they do with this film? I'll never understand.... I think instead of boycotting a film the parent should check it out themselves individually and make up their own decision about how mature their kids are. Some kids are really mature and understand it's all fake and some are too young to understand, but all you have to do is parent your own kid(s).

[DanCa]

26. you've read the post on my sis before right ?

Lol and am the one on psych med. I agree with you. There really off the wall.

[jwirr]

9. Exactly, my Lutheran college encouraged us to

use it with our children. That my friends is the difference between Christians and the right wing bush idiots. For thinking Christians it is the story of Christ's willing sacrifice for the people of the world. To the fundies who think christianity is all about the old testament and not about Christ at all the Narnia stories have no meaning. I actually feel sorry for the idiots. They think that worshiping in a church with no altar decorations, teaching nothing but their idea of God's word, keeping separate from the "sinners" and having their ones saved always saved moment is the way to salvation. I hope they soon realize that not only does their philosophy not work on the death bed but it doesn't even work in politics.

[DanCa]

11. You know my biggest fear is that the bushies

will make it a law saying that you must be a card carrying member of the gop to practice christianity. Please tell me that I am paranoid.

[CatholicEdHead]

13. Getting closer to that every day

The current Catholic Syond will be covering the issue of Catholics and abortion stances. In that if you do not 100% follow the "offical" "pro-life" line (just overturn RvW will do it all which means the GOP platform or nothing, other discussion of abortion reducing options does not count), you are then not "worthy" to recieve communion.

So IMO, that is tantamount that Democrats are not welcome in the church. It will be intresting to see the final Syond documents later this week.

[DanCa]

16. so than they should just hang DNNA signs and be done with it

Democrats need not apply. God i went thru this in two thousand. Its rubbing salt on the wound all over again. I wonder if the american people will sit back and take it.

[CatholicEdHead]

18. This trend will continue

the "move forward to the past' movement is in control now and is doing everything possible to dredge up all the old archane rules for power trips (IMO) of the hierarchy. The RCC is becoming a church of more followers than leaders each day.

[FreedomAngel82]

24. This is a reason why I'm glad I'm not a Catholic

My church has no Pope and no president. We have elders and deacons who preside over our church building and the people who meet there and decisions made with funding(s) etc. but nothing like with the Catholic church. I think a lot of people at my church are independent voters. And if these religious fanatics think over turning Roe V Wade will change abortion stats in this country they're in for a huge awakening. I think they'll only make things worse for women who do have abortions (as in them getting killed).

[jwirr]

38. Poor women have no abortion medical coverage now,

Others will simply do what they have always done, find a local doctor who will do it in secret or go to some other country. It has been the poor who were in those alleys getting killed by the butchers back before Roe vs Wade. As far as I know the government has never paid for the abortions of the poor.

[grannylib]

40. Nothing pisses me off more, I was just having a conversation about this

issue with someone at work today. Don't ANY of these so-called Christians read the words of Christ??? (do they even know who he was, really??? They all seem to be Levites to me...)
Jesus said, "Whenever two or more of you are gathered in my name, there I am in the midst of them." He did NOT add: "Unless you're gay." He did NOT say, "As long as you oppose abortion." He did NOT say "Just as long as you have signed the proper papers." He did NOT add, "Unless you are (fill in the blank)."
No qualifiers. Just gather in His name.
What the hell is so hard for some people to understand about that?

[Stang8az28]

43. God favors no group, Only religions do that.

saw it on a bumper sticker and memorized it

[DanCa]

44. She was in rare form this morning

I posted earlier this morning about her . you can search for it if you like. I feeling much better now. Basically she said dems shouldnt be allowed to pray after we got into the whole pharmicist for life fight and some other bullshit about not giving me my parkie drugs to control my shakes.

[rocktivity]

10. I saw a cartoon based on the Lion The Witch and the Wardrobe 30 years ago

and even I remember it was a Christian allegory. The witch referred to the children as the "sons of Adam" and "daughters of Eve!" Holy morans, Batman!

:headbang:
rocknation

[FreedomAngel82]

21. From what I've heard

the movie itself sounds very positive and family/friendly. And as I mentioned in another post the soundtrack has Christian artist's on it. Here are some of the artist's on there: Steven Curtis Chapman, Nichole Nordeman, tobyMac, Chris Tomlin, David Crowder Band, Jars of Clay, Bethany Dillon and Rebecca St James. So I really don't get why this group is boycotting the movie when tons of Christian acts are involved in the movie and promoting it.

[DanCa]

22. They also banned lillies in the field

for a man "living in sin" with women. Yet they loved passion of the christ go figure.

[FreedomAngel82]

28. Very weird

I can see why they would like the Passion movie with the whole story Jesus but all the violence. :crazy: Even just reading the story myself in the Bible was enough to make me sick. I don't handle violence at all.

[DanCa]

32. Neither do I

I used to watch old time war movies and westerns but ive gotten so squeamish lately I can barely tolerate lord of the rings. It must be all the psych meds i am on.

[FreedomAngel82]

33. Aw

When I was younger I too loved Westerns. :) Dunno why but I just liked it (I guess the horses and all that).

[AspenRose]

42. You are absolutely right

Guess they've never heard of "The Screwtape Letters" or "Mere Christianity." Same brilliant author.... :shrug:

He died the same day JFK did....

[UrbScotty]

3. Do their 'pro-life' activities include protests against the war? (nt)

[Pool Hall Ace]

4. Oh, they're pro-life? And they will be holding protests?

So this means they will be protesting the war, right?

[DanCa]

6. I would love to stand across the street and hold a sign that says

you cant be pro life and pro war.

[FreedomAngel82]

29. Ooo good idea!

And have a picture from war that you can find is really horrible and reality. They love to show the fetus picture so let's see how they like one of ours. We can play their game too.

[Trillo]

5. Imagine talking to the animals!

Bet they hate Dr. Doolittle, too.

[DanCa]

8. And winnie the pooh

Bet they thought Christopher Robin was a stoner.

[Warren DeMontague]

12. Shows you how little they know. CS Lewis was totally shilling for Xtianity

doesn't mean the stories aren't a good yarn, although what I remember about them gels with what I've heard in terms of thinly veiled Christian themes.

Plus the girl gets kicked out once she starts wearing lipstick-- you know... dreaded, sinful SEX enters the picture.

[dsc]

14. Literally unbelieveable

The Chronicals of Narnia are an amazingly well crafted alegory of the Christ narrative. Incidently for a terrific movie about Lewis you should watch Shadowlands with Deborah Winger and Anthony Hopkins. She plays a woman who romances the widowed Lewis (Hopkins) and then gets sick. Great film.

[Warren DeMontague]

15. No talking animals... but SINGING VEGETABLES are okay?

Gaaaak, I've known crack-smoking homeless people who've made more linear sense than some of these fuckin' fundies.

[FreedomAngel82]

31. LOL

While I think the Veggie Tales are very cute very good point. :eyes: Sometimes they drive me insane. When a cousin of mine was younger he would listen to Metallica and my aunt would tell him not to listen to that type of music cause of the lyrics and stuff, but she told how not long ago now time she heard Johnny Cash singing a song and it sounded familiar and it turned out being the Metallica song. :eyes: After that she listened to some other songs and actually heard the lyrics and lightned up (of course by now my cousin is in his thirties or early fourties).

[Warren DeMontague]

35. That's the way it goes.

Dangerous youth rebellion becomes mainstream becomes nostalgia act, all in a matter of decades.

It's interesting that Johnny Cash made the song "okay" in your aunt's eyes- he probably did more hard livin' than all the guys in Metallica combined.

[FreedomAngel82]

36. Yep

:shrug: I don't get it. The song itself wasn't bad I don't think. I guess the band has a bad rep or something and she never really listened to the lyrics. Just the music and what other people said. It's like with Ozzy Osbourne. If you actually listen to a lot of his songs they're pretty fine for the most part. At least my aunt learned a lesson though. They're not too bad now days though with things. All of their kids are grown now and have their own kids but with her grandkids she's pretty good about stuff. I guess she learned to not judge a book by it's cover. ;)

[electricray]

17. Sweet, maybe in honor of "pro-life" month we can stop killing Iraquis

Or perhaps Afghanis, or maybe all the fundies could voice their militant opposition to killing Iranians in the next big block-buster war. Or maybe we could all get together and make Bush fund the AIDS reasearch that he was so charitable with the rhetoric about. Pro-life my eye. These people make me want to puke.

[FreedomAngel82]

19. Oh good grief

On the soundtrack for the movie it features a LOT of Christian artist's such as the Grammy winner Rebecca St James and TobyMac from the group DC Talk and newcomer Bethany Dillon. So if Christian artist's are involved in the sound track I doubt the whole Christian community thinks this way. :eyes: And why October? Cause of Halloween or something? I don't know.

[Bill McBlueState]

30. christian artists?

So if I go see the movie, I'm going to have to put up with that sappy crapola? There was no indication of that in the preview. Sigh.

[FreedomAngel82]

34. I don't know how the songs are though

I haven't heard them. A lot of the times they do songs that can be secular and not necessarily worship music or anything religious. Such as the singer Stacie Orrico had that song "More to Life" and "Stuck" out and the band Switchfoot. Plus, since it's a soundtrack to the movie the songs would have to go along with the script.

[Bill McBlueState]

37. hey, I looked into this

The Christian musicians are doing an "inspired by" soundtrack, which appears to be different from the soundtrack that will actually be used during the film.

[chalky]

41. Oh, thankyajayzus. I was horrified at the thought of being jarred out of

the WWII timeframe everytime some modern pop christian song came through the speakers.

[karlrschneider]

25. What about the talking snake in Genesis 3:1?

:wtf:

[DanCa]

27. There too busy looking at the naked pics of eve (nt)

[Swamp Rat]

45. Psycho Phreaks