Sister just slamed Dems says we shouldn't be allowed to pray

[DanCa]

Okay I am totally seething right now. As you know I have young onset parkinson's and there are mornings when my hands and or legs just wont move they way I want them too. Usually these episodes last about one hour or until my miraprex hit my bloodstream.
Anyhow I over heard my mom fighting with my sister about giving me my medicine because she said I was an embryo farmer and that democrats shouldn't be allowed to pray allowed to pray. And that she cant wait for the day that Bush kicks us out of the church . Than she walks out of the house. This happened earlier and am still angry. I dont know what to do when I see the loon again.

[Bill McBlueState]

1. "the day that Bush kicks us out of the church"

That's wrong on so many levels, it's funny. Wow.

[DanCa]

6. Agreed she gets worse every day (nt)

[PDittie]

2. Get the toxic people out of your life.

No matter who they are.

Forgive her for not knowing what she does. Then never speak of her again.

[thinkingwoman]

28. listen to PDittie...this is GOOD advice

those of us from toxic families get conned into putting up with crap like this because it's coming from "family." Break free of it.

Purge your life of anyone who treats you badly--no matter who they are!

I speak from experience on this. EVERYTHING gets better when you purge your life of toxic people. Even loneliness (until you meet and make new friends and loved ones) is better. Your body, mind, and soul will thank you in ways you can't even imagine.

Do it today. Forgive her for her ignorance and hatefulness, but say goodbye until and unless she changes.

Peace and good luck.

[terip64]

35. this is hard to do but well worth the effort

I have a sister that I don't talk to and just found out that she has a growth on her brain. It is a horrible situation but I know that I can't change how screwed up she is and I am much healthier now than I have ever been. I heard a guy on NPR the other day saying that the opposite of love is indifference, not hate. That is exactly how I feel about my sister. I am so sorry she is not well, but it doesn't change that I can't be with her. It is hard to get there, you have to break away emotionally, but believe me it is well worth the effort if you want to lead a normal life, whatever that is.

[Arugula Latte]

38. Is there any chance her behavior was caused by her growth?

i.e. did she change from a relatively normal person to a difficult person, and, if so, could it have been the growth's fault?

(Sorry about the situation, BTW.)

[terip64]

43. I don't know she was always a little crazy

My dad drank, blah, blah, blah, but I wonder if the whole situation could have made her sick. We were very close and she backed herself into a corner by saying some very horrible things about my husband, I think knowing that it would end our relationship. When she realized what she had done and that I couldn't ignore what she had said, I don't know, I just think that this situation might have been the only one that would change things. Sad to say, I don't think it will. She won't back down on what she said and so my hands are tied. It would never be the way it was, but maybe I could be in the same room with her if she acknowledged that what she said was bullshit. It's a long ugly story and I don't have anything left. I truly feel indifferent to the whole thing; it doesn't seem real. I am sick for my mother and her family and even her. it is a sad story, just doesn't feel like it's part of me. It really does suck, though. Hope Danca can deal with it better than I did.

[MostlyLurks]

3. "democrats shouldn't be allowed to pray"

Methinks your sis has just stumbled upon the "Republican 2008 National Convention" theme.

Mostly

[JHB]

30. But..but..but...

...but Pat Robertson has been saying that it's US that would use the state to keep THEM from praying!?!? You mean he was wrong?
:sarcasm:

Sorry about your sister. She may one day realized she's fallen into a cult that masquerades as "Christian", but until then, I have to agree with cutting her out asmuch as possible.

[MostlyLurks]

37. You, sir or madam as the case may be, are brandishing dangerous logic. n/t

[Bluzmann57]

4. No offense but...

Your sister sounds like a loony tune to me. I imagine she has some fine qualities and loves you very much, but she sounds nutty on this issue. What does your mom think about all of this? Ah forget it, it's really nobody's business what your mom thinks about it. I wish you luck in the future both with the Parkinson's as well as with your sister.

[DanCa]

10. None taking at all

actually we were quite cordial to each other until i had a major falling with her church in 2000 when it became a republican voting factory.

[meganmonkey]

5. We're not allowed to - at least not in front of the WH

almost 400 of us got arrested for that last week (okay, to be fair we weren't all praying but we were led by a group of clergy).
Tell her that, maybe she'll feel better. Of course, she isn't allowed to pray there either.

I am so sorry you have to deal with that. It is good knowing that we are not praying to whatever she is praying to, because our god doesn't take sides like that.

:hug:

[jsamuel]

7. Ask her how she has just sinned against God by saying who can and can't

worship him.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

8. I am not religious, so please take my advice for what it is worth

But it strikes me that your sister sees in you a power, a grace and a will to survive which intimidates the hell out of her. She believes that the only way to redemption (insert your own word) is blindly following some human's descriptiong of an ancient document. You take control of your life and do what you need to live it.

Face it. You scare her. Her getting you angry is her way of leveling the playing field in her mind.
Ignore it, although I know that is hard with family. But, once you see the reasons behind her spiteful comments and inate nastiness, you realize that it is her doing, and nothing to do with you. It also proves to you that there is nothing you can do to change her. ONLY SHE can grow up into a mature, responsible adult. Nothing you say will speed that process up.

I do feel for you, though, and please accept my long-distance support. I have experienced family spats worse than yours. They can hurt badly if you let them.

[DanCa]

12. Thank you I feel better

that was very kind of you.

[tnlefty]

9. What is an "embryo farmer"? What the hell is she talking about?

Tell her that she should be happy as a lot of us have willingly left all types of churches because of the cult-like worship of Bush**.

[Child_Of_Isis]

17. Believes in stem cell research, maybe? eom

[DanCa]

21. yeah you got sorry the slow response a little groggy.

[tanyev]

11. Well, you're obviously praying to a different God than she is.

When did they make Bush the pope?

[annabanana]

13. Would she interfere with your getting your medicine?

"fighting with my sister about giving me my medicine because she said I was an embryo farmer "

Is she in a position with your Mother to be able to influence her AGAINST giving you your medicine?
(I hope I read this wrong)

[Child_Of_Isis]

15. I was wondering this also. eom

[DanCa]

18. I think this is in reference to a debate we had over pharmicies dispensing

pills and such. And I told her that I said no one has the right to with hold anyones birth control over someones religious beliefs. I told her that am pro stem cell is she going to stop me by refusing to giving me medicine. I think thats what triggered this.

[Dorian Gray]

14. Come on!

This has to be parody! Nobody could believe that Bush will kick Dems out of "the church." That's just stupid on so many levels!

Sorry! I'm laughing at this! Danca, do NOT be mad at other people's stupidity! If anything, this should make you laugh at the inanity of it all!

[Hobarticus]

16. Pray for your sister, hers is a soul in need of it...

In the meantime, keep her out of your life.

[Ravenseye]

23. Even Better...

Pray for her every time you see her...

She walks into the house. Bow your head clasp your hands together and say...

"Lord, please hear my prayer for my dear sister. She's filled with hate, and is misguided. Please do all you can to help her experience your love and compassion for her fellow people. I humbly pray to you, o Lord."

Do that.

[Hobarticus]

26. THAT's what I'm tawkin' 'bout! n/t

[Mr_Spock]

19. That is what the church does to people?? Turns them into sociopaths??

I think religion can be a very bad influence at times.

[Southpaw Bookworm]

39. Pretty much

Except that I think it just draws in people who already are sociopaths and gives them an outlet for venting their bile.

[Mr_Spock]

44. That makes too much sense

That explains many of these poeple. But when I see parents raising thier children to be psychotic angry bigots, that's an offense against society and very bad for America...

[Marr]

20. Your sister is insane.

I would ignore her comments unless she's talking about pulling off a suicide bombing. I've known a couple of people like that- the insanity comes first, the religion is just something stationary for them hold on to.

[Lex]

22. Yep, I agree 100%.

Sounds like the rantings of someone on the verge of a stint in the psychiatric hospital.

[DanCa]

24. she passed insane along time ago (nt)

[WePurrsevere]

25. First of all take some deep breathes... last thing you need is more stress

I'm so very sorry you had to hear that and are hurt and upset. :hug:

Has she always been this way or is this new? She sounds like she either needs some serious psych help or is just a nasty piece of work who, IMO, needs to learn a few essential Bible FACTS before making that kind of BS judgment.

Although as a mother of now grown DD's I know that is very difficult IME your mother needs to take a firm stand against your sister behaving in this manner. Neither you nor your mother need the extra stress nor deserve to be treated like crap by her. If she's a "christian" and your mom is then your mom needs to get out her Bible and teach her a thing or two about what JESUS taught about prayer, love, caring for others, judging, etc.

Quite frankly if either one of my DD's had ever pulled what your sister just did they'd be told that until they could get their head together and cut the crap out they were not welcome in my home . ::sigh:: Goodness knows I've come very close a few times with my youngest one, luckily so far she knows when she's getting too close to crossing that line and backs off before I have to.

Anyway... please try not to let her get to you. This crap is HER baggage not yours, you don't need or deserve it so don't accept it from her or own it.

[MemphisTiger]

27. Your sister needs serious help

she will get her from the god she prays to one day.

[Mz Pip]

29. Someone needs to inform your sister

that Bush is not Pope and can't kick anyone out of church, his or anyone else's.

I often wonder what alternate reality some Bush supporters live in. Do they seriously believe that Bush has any interest at all in kicking someone out of church? He doesn't even go to church!

I'd really like to know on what basis she formed those opinions because, as much as I didlike Bush, I see nothing in him that leads me to believe he would forbid Dems from praying or kick them out of church. Seriously, WTF is she talking about? Inquiring minds want to know.

Mz Pip
:dem:

[SheilaT]

31. This reminds me of

why I have contempt for organized religion.

The same people that go all pious about how they're better than the un-churched then spout this kind of hateful crap.

But the suggestion to pray for her if she ever comes over again is a good one, because I suspect you are sufficiently a believer to pull it off with great sincerity.

If a sister of mine pulled that crap I'd tell her in no uncertain terms exactly what she could do with her attitude and make sure she never crosses my doorstep again.

Good grief! You have young onset Parkinson's and your life is transformed because of that. You don't need toxic people like her in it.

[mzteris]

32. ask her if her faith

in God is so shallow that she's afraid God will be swayed by "liberal prayers".....

duh.

I'm sorry you have such a bigotted idjut for a sister. (Mine are bad, too......)

[in_cog_ni_to]

33. You know what? Just because she's family it doesn't mean you have to

have a damn thing to do with her. Sometimes you just have to let people go and that includes family.. How old is your sister and does she live in the same house?

[DanCa]

34. Shes two years younger

and i am basically dependent on her for rides and such. Thats the catch twenty two of this.

[terip64]

36. Danca, see my earlier post, # 34

You are in a horrible situation and I am sorry. Do everything you can to limit your contact with her but also, try hard to distance yourself emotionally. I know it is a stretch, but think of this, it can't be easy being your sister. You have to deal with her way too often but she has to deal with herself all the time. The key word is indifference. What she says does not change anything. If she said your hair was green, would it be?

[in_cog_ni_to]

42. Well that royally SUCKS!

So sorry you have to put up with her and depend on her for help. :(

[McCamy Taylor]

40. This is sibling rivalry, not political. Your med. probs get you attention

Sit down with your sis and talk to her.

[progressivebydesign]

41. I'm sorry for you. Your sister has serious issues and not political.

What a hateful thing for her to say about you, especially as you're battling Parkinson's. As hard as it is, her comments say so much more about her, and nothing about you. Pity her, as she is the tortured one.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

45. Has she ever need psychiatric help? It seems like she might need

it quite badly.