Miers : Something FISHY - I think Conservatives protest a bit too much...

[jackstraw45]

My opinion is that conservatives, and the media, are PURPOSEFULLY making a lot out of "anger" about Miers appointment. Seems almost too coordinated to have all this "outrage" already in articles only a few hours after her announcement.

She's a STRONG ally of Bush, called him one of the smartest men she knows, has been BY HIS SIDE since Texas days, has NO experience as a judge and since 1988, I haven't found a single contribution to a democrat (has anyone found one?).

I smell a well-coordinated PR campaign to make America think this woman is a moderate.

Hope I'm wrong!

[soleft]

1. third thread where I'm agreeing on these line of thought

[Laelth]

2. Me too!

Here's why:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=2130848&mesg_id=2130848

-Laelth

[BurgherHoldtheLies]

3. If Bushie REALLY wanted to appoint a wingnut....

He had a stable to choose from. Obviously, he didn't choose the KNOWN wingnuts. Sure, the Dems would filibuster a wingnut, but the Republicans are the majority and could stop it the filibuster and end up with their bat-shit crazy appointee. If they really, really, really WANTED to put a Luttig, Owens, Jones, Moore, etc. on the court, they could have done it.

Looks like the fundies are duped again.:rofl:

[alarimer]

20. I really hope you are right

I like to see the right pissed off but I am not sure about Miers. She thinks Bush is the most intelligent person she has ever met. I think she is delusions or she doesn't get out much.

[Ksec]

4. You may be right

Theyre dissing her and Reid is praising her?

Strategy my freind.

Shes a raging pit bull with size 8 shoews. Shes close to * and you know he completely gets who she is.

Think about this.. Being bashs personal lawyer She has protected Bash all through his crimes against humanity, that tells me all I need to know about her character.

[stillcool]

5. Lots of hoopla....

straight out of the blocks. Everyone must have gotten their talking points over the weekend.

[KoKo]

6. Yes...think so, too. A little too coordinated. And, some feel Reid's

statement was designed to make them madder than hornets.

Frankly, she seems to me to be another Clarence Thomas. A person who will be swayed by whomever has the strongest Repug opinion in the Court.

I'm sick of hearing about her already. We could end up with Mitch McConnell or worse. So is a do nothing Bush supporting lacky who is anti-abortion like Miers, better than a hard core anti-abortion, religious fundie with strong opinions and ties into the REAL BIG BAD BOYS in the Repub party, like McConnel?

:shrug: Who knows...I'm just sick of all the games.

[Sparkle]

7. Ms. Mier or one of her family members did the Bush's a big favor

back in the day....now she is getting the payback.

[calico1]

8. My feelings exactly. n/t

[KoKo]

9. She Smiles too much....beware people who smile too much.

C-Cpan showed an old clip of her talking about the Supreme Selection criteria and she never stopped smiling.

My Dad used to talk about a boss he had who smiled all the time even when he fired employees. I've seen what he said to be true in my own experience. Beware the Smiler who carries a dagger. :-(

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

10. That'd be one huge and self-destructive conspiracy theory.

You realize this is making the base Republicans hate Bush, right? You realize they're all he has left right now too, right?

[OnionPatch]

17. That's why

I'm suspicious. Sure as shit she's going to vote to overturn Roe v. Wade. Then Bush will be their saviour again.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

19. It's still rather risky.

Even if they move at breakneck speed, they probably wouldn't get to do anything with Roe before the 2006 elections. Even then, we'd still have a 5-4 split. They can't do jack until someone else retires.

[Guaranteed]

21. Right- it's a self-fulfilling kind of thing. You don't do this to

your own party.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

22. Unless you're a DUer.

In which case, there's a 50% chance you just bash your own party for the hell of it.

[papau]

11. WSJ implies Miers anti-abortion and a Scalia "orginalist"

So is Ms. Miers's not just a judicial restraint/limited role of the court/judicial conservative, she is a Scalia anti-abortion "orginalist" with no respect for precedent?

http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB1128351923853585...

<snip>Marvin Olasky, a journalism professor and the father of the "compassionate conservative" movement, posted a series of excerpts from interviews with friends and acquaintances of Harriet Miers he conducted before the official nomination. One of the interviews was with Texas Supreme Court Justice Nathan Hecht, who said he has known Ms. Miers for 30 years and described their relationship as "very close friends."

Quoting Mr. Hecht on Ms. Miers's judicial philosophy: "She's an originalist -- that's the way she takes the Bible," and that's her approach to the Constitution as well -- "Originalist -- it means what it says."

Mr. Hecht says he and Ms. Miers "went to two or three pro-life dinners in the late 80s or early 90s."<snip>


http://usgovinfo.about.com/library/weekly/aa022701a.htm
Scalia on the Constitution


U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia explained and defended his "originalist" approach to constitutional interpretation in a closing address to a Princeton University conference on James Madison, fourth president and framer of the Constitution.

Speaking on Feb. 23, 2001, Justice Scalia explained that he, like Madison, interprets the Constitution according to the "common sense" meaning and definition of the document's words at the time they were written. An opposite approach, Scalia suggested from that applied by Justices who believe the Constitution "changes from age to age in order to meet the needs of a changing society."

Scalia criticized the second approach, saying that it too often results in crafting subjective interpretations of the Constitution to address issues that could and should be handled by Congress.

Calling his view of the Constitution an "originalist" view, Scalia conceded it often places him in a position of supporting laws that do not seem to make sense.

"It may well be stupid, but if it's stupid, pass a law!" he said. "Don't think the originalist interpretation constrains you. To the contrary. My Constitution is a very flexible Constitution. You want a right to abortion? Create it the way all rights are created in a democracy, pass a law. The death penalty? Pass a law. That's flexibility

<snip>

[nvliberal]

16. The operative word is "implies."

That doesn't mean she actually IS.

[RaleighNCDUer]

12. Does anybody know, or has anybody gleaned, what precipitated

he leaving the Dems in '88 -- coincidentally, the year the Bush cabal openly assumed power?

Was it *'s campaigning for the "faith-based" community on behalf of his father? Has she been a bushie since then, or was that later?

[izzie]

13. I think it is just this whole pay back thing. and we know what is best

These people do not think like us. They are into this whole thing of being the 'ruling class' so what they do is really what is best for us.So just as Bush got a head with friends he will do the same. They all drag the same old people with them.

[LittleClarkie]

14. Well, that would be cute as hell

as I think Reid is faking happiness. I wonder which switcheroo will win out?

[OnionPatch]

15. Count me in

I'm highly suspicious as well. There's no way Bush is appointing a "moderate" unless there's some BIG reason why. Sorry, I just stopped believing that anything moderate can happen while these people are in charge.

[Maine-ah]

18. sacrificial lamb?

so, lets say she doesn't get confirmed: 1. Bush gets to say, "okay, Dems, you voted this one down" 2. Gets to offer up someone really conservative, and bitches about it when Dems don't like this one either, and that now it's partisan politics.