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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 02:46 PM
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I think Kos has the right idea.
I can't imagine Miers not being confirmed, with the way that this has been set up. We had a better shot against Roberts. It's already a done deal.

Our best bet is to declare victory and slam that wedge down hard in the middle of the Repukes. Call Bush out on his weakness, and make sure that Miers is portrayed as the biggest liberal that we can possibly make her.

Hopefully, psychologically, this will do some serious damage to the Repukes, send Bush's approval down further, and help set us up to take on a weakened (by perception or otherwise) Repuke party in 2006.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 03:05 PM
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1. I get it. Like, "Well we would prefer Ted Kennedy as the next
SC justice, but if we can't have him, then Miers will do." Or, "Wow, Bush is finally seeing the light! He is no longer trying to shove right-wingers down our throats!" Not bad...pretty cool...
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expatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 03:07 PM
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2. there is nothing strategic about it, it's the truth. She's given money to
the DNC. We won. Bush is weak. So this is what the conservatives get for breaking their backs for him. The best chance they get to win the Supreme Court with 2 vacancies and Bush replaces a staunch conservative with a possible(?) conservative and a liberal judge with possibly just as liberal if not more liberal judge. Yeah, conservatives have a lot to thank Bush for! All that hard work shows you how much of a friend Bush is to them.

(am I doing good?)
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 03:16 PM
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6. A little part of me is still suspecious
Why would she donate to Al Gore and be Bush's personal lawyer?
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 03:18 PM
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8. It was when Rick Perry was Texas Democratic Party chairman.
Rick Perry, who was Bush's lt. gov and is now the Republican governor of Texas.

www.rawstory.com
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 03:07 PM
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3. Yes ...and then she'll have to
be "lil Clarence" in order to prove herself.
It's a lose, lose.
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Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 03:12 PM
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4. This is chimp's equivalent of his dad's 1991 tax increase,

breaking his "Read my Lips" promise.

A craven cave-in that totally pissed off his base and permanently weakened him, paving the way for the election of a Democratic house and senate and 8 years of Bill Clinton.
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FreedomAngel82 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 03:15 PM
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5. Either that or
they get so angry they all campaign against her and put pressure on their reps to vote against her and she'd be defeated. Either way if the democrats play the cards right we could gain back the House and Senate next year.
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AnarchoFreeThinker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 03:18 PM
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7. absolutely. she's no liberal, but if the rep base stays home in 06
because they think she is, then perfect.
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 03:21 PM
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9. I disagree.
Listen, the Dems in congress need to do what they need to do, right? But us here on DU, we can do whatever we want. And we need to put the word out on the street that Miers stinks like three-day-old fish. She's connected to the TANG thing, to the nasty Texas Lottery thing, and to TRMPAC. This is a cronyist appointment and it reeks to high heaven. And we need to spread that word around and put it out on the street as far and as fast as it'll go and get it out to the media. And we need to make the point that this is a big ol' crony appointment, another Michael Brown.

Now, what the official Dems need to do, I don't know, but I'm saying this is what WE as DU'ers need to do -- we need to get this out there and make people see it, because it's the truth, and it'll go a long way to make people see exactly WHO we have in the White House (if they don't already) -- a guy who is just ripping off our government and ripping off the American people.
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suffragette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 03:26 PM
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10. I'm with you, crispini
We need to keep pointing out that Bush continues to give preference to cronies and buddies, regardless of qualifications.
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 03:29 PM
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11. I think that needs to be done, as well.
It goes well with the idea that Miers doesn't share Bush's constituent's views. Bush just nominated her because she's his buddy.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 03:50 PM
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12. I *strongly* disagree
Weaken support all you like, they showed us in OH and FL that support means less and less every term.

This guy has the right idea:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=1823679&mesg_id=1823735
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Guaranteed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 07:19 PM
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13. I don't think that Rove told all these Republicans to act outraged.
In fact, I don't think a good mastermind would do this to his party. It's tearing his party apart, unless it's a massive, party-wide act, from the peons up.
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 07:35 PM
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14. I also agree with Kos's several posts
about Miers.
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