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Pab Sungenis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 03:30 PM
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Let Bush have his nominees. We'll take care of it later.
The current composition of the Supreme Court is a relatively new thing, only having been around since 1948. The nation's population and demographics have greatly shifted in the past 57 years, and it's time to reconsider the makeup of the Court.

If we can retake the House and Senate in 2006, we can effectively block most aspects of the Bushistas, including any future nominations. Then, after retaking the White House in 2008, we make a move....

A Judicial Act of 2009 could increase the number of Associate Justices of the Supreme Court from eight to ten, granting the new President two immediate appointments. This would effectively negate the presence of Roberts and Miers. Then, the new President would be in position to deal with the retirements of Stevens and, shortly afterward, Scalia and Kennedy.

This is not a brazen attempt at Court Packing, like Roosevelt tried. (He wanted to appoint five new Justices, not two.) Nor is it increasing the size of the Court unreasonably; the Court was at 11 for a number of years, and has been as low as six members at one point.

So, if we can't stop Mier, we just have to sit back and put things to rights when we're back in power.
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tompayne1 Donating Member (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 03:33 PM
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1. vaild point
But what if the guys in authority cannot unite and we don't get back in power for awhile?
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 03:39 PM
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2. Didn't Roosevelt try this?
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firefox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 03:39 PM
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3. The lifetime appointments need to end
I think there needs to be a Constitutional amendment to end the life-time appointments to the SC.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 03:40 PM
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4. But where do we make our stand?
At what point to the democrats start opposing the GOP, simply because we think they are wrong? These people seem to endlessly give in, for some kind of vague notion of "strategy." But what, exactly, is the strategy? The only thing they've achieved is that even most democrats don't believe in their democratic reps anymore, because they cave so often.

That's not going to win the Democratic party any elections, even with the GOP imploding.
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OneNation Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 03:55 PM
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5. A better strategy is to get the conservatives shoot down Mier
All that is needed to stop Mier is to get all the Democratic senators and six Republicans senators to vote no on Mier. If the right doesn't go along with the Mier nomination then maybe six Republican senators who may want to run President in '08 and want the support of the party's wingnuts will vote no on Mier. From what I have been reading, the right wing hates the Mier nomination. They may hold the key to the Mier nomination. Then the Democrats just have to stand back and vote against Mier because she isn't qualified. Let the wingnuts destroy themselves.

Then after the right wing stops Bush's friend from being seated on the court, Bush in a vindictive mood (and we know that Bush can be vindictive) nominates a moderate to the court just to put the screws to the wingnuts.

And the chances of all this happening? Slim and none. On second thought, the chances are none.
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lastknowngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-03-05 05:00 PM
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6. There is no latter! It's over folks they are not only above the law
THEY OWN IT OUTRIGHT.
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